Just doing a search on new AM CP's for Oregon.

250w/Grants Pass @ 760/Cow Creek Broadcasting

50.000w/Medford @ 830 Hill & Glover

10.000w/Reedsport @ 890 No owner listed

50.000w/Junction City @ 960 Owner is Hill & Glover

50.000w/Bend @ 900 Owner is Hill & Glover

7.000w/Prinville @ 1060 Horizon Broadcasting

2.500w/Lebanon @ 1100 owner Jessica Lund

50.000w/Jacksonville @ 1180 Pamplin

22.000w/Coburg @ 1540 Owner Rams III

The question is....in these economic times will any of these station get off the ground ?

I wonder who Hill & Glover are. And, what would they be doing with a bunch of 50 watt AM stations.

830 used to be a killowat daytimer in Medford, I worked there for a short time. KSHA , country/Western.

I just noticed the Prinville app is for 7 watts. What is that all about. It would go from one end of your house to the other and that's about all.

"." sometimes means "," it is 7KW, the "50 watt" CPs are 50 KW.

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=122403

So, they are actually 50kw apps. I certainly wonder if there are that many 50kw frequencies available. I wonder how they justify the cost of building a 50kw station in those markets.

860 was a 1kw daytimer before moving to 880. If there was ever an 830 there, it was before that. The maximum power on a regional channel is now 50kw so there are only 6 frequencies where you can't have a 50kw station, not counting the expanded band, assuming you can fit one in. Check the recent Medford thread for a few more albeit in the application stage. Closer to home, we have Mount Angel with 25kw @ 1130.

Next question...expiration dates on above CP's.

I looked up a few... they were applications rather than CPs... so CPs have not even been granted yet, If CPs are granted, I believe they would be for 3 years.

That was 860 KSHA which moved to 880 as a 1 kw full time station.

These are CPs? I bet all of these have to be directional. Oh I got something that looked really strange and I do believe that it's a major error. Radio Locator says that KLPM 1150 runs 10 watts daytime power and 5,000 watts non directional at night. Must get more info on these CPs and who in the heck is Hill & Glover? Never heard of them.

Can't figure out where "Hill & Grover Broadcasting, LLC" is headquartered but they've got applications all over the Country.

It appears that Sherman T. Hill, Jr. and James R. Glover are Maryland businessmen who formed a 50/50 partnership (Hill & Glover Broadcasting, LLC).

More info here.

Sounds like a couple of guys who want to roll up their sleeves and really get involved locally in serving their community.

I wonder what these guys have in mind with all of the AM stations. Not exactly a license to get rich:


GRANT OF THIS APPLICATION WILL GIVE THE APPLICANT AN INTEREST IN ONLY ONE STATION IN THE RENO, NEVADA MARKET.

THE APPLICANT IS THE PERMITTEE OF THE FOLLOWING STATIONS:

NEW AM STATION, ARROYO GRANDE, CALIFORNIA, FACILITY ID 160226
NEW AM STATION, JUNCTION CITY, OREGON, FACILITY ID 160227
NEW AM STATION, BEND, OREGON, FACILITY ID 160230
NEW AM STATION, SAVANNAH, GEORGIA, FACILITY ID 160235
NEW AM STATION, BON AIR, VIRGINIA, FACILITY ID 160962

Perhaps Hill & Glover want to create the AM equivalent of EMF/K-Love? Just wondering.

Alternate theory.... they want to either get the CPs and sell them, OR get them on the air with a computer and then sell them......

Are they radio people? Have to have some radio background and smart enough to know how to do a frequency search for some of the others who already EXIST in radio, maybe the equipment already exists and they can put one up cheap.

The cost of a 50000 watt directional station would be not worth any effort, but in some cases, it would give migrating whales, and freighters another listening option...........

arn't all of the AM frequencies allready full?especially with the HD terrible HD noises on many ??Wehere is the Wolf-man?

Which brings up a question... Would the new stations be built out with HD transmitters? HD from a 50kW AM could provide very nice stereo coverage to a medium sized city. Last Christmas, KEX demonstrated that a 50 kW AM station with HD stereo could sound just fine!

note to 62... Wolfman died 7/1/95

"Are they [Hill & Glover] radio people?"

I don't believe they are. From a little poking around I found that Sherman Hill is a real estate developer and James Glover is a business consultant. Mark Mueller is their consulting engineer.

Thanks kq4 for the bit of information now let's see what happens to these new AM stations and what they are going to do.

Ooops I was wrong about that frequecny, sorry. It was on 860 when I worked at KSHA. And that was why I didnt remember the frequency, it wss for the same reason when I worked at KYJC. The owners didnt want the current frequencies "out there" because changes were in the offing for a frequency change for both stations ! That was 1979/80.

830 is going to be a problem for Medford.

They'll have to protect WCCO out of Minneapolis. Hope they like their eastwardly nulls.

Proposed 830 in Medford will only be 1kW at night.

Here is the proposed night pattern:

http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/AM_DA_patterns/971248-83236.pdf

Ouch!

bet any that are challenged get dropped.

This thread discussing a flock of new expensive AM applications, and the other thread currently in play with commentary on AMs going off the air seem to me to be a little opposed to each other.

I assume the location of this array will be in S.E. Medford or on the east end of the rogue valley someplace. If this is the case the natural suppresion from the siskyou/cascade/Lake of he Woods range and or Mt McLoughlin along with the pattern will be sufficient to prevent any challenges from the east , especially at just a kilowatt.

Medford is in a strange place in this country. A high chaparel valley about half way between Sacremento/S.F and Portland, and less than 300 miles from Boise. It was a small place until the 80s and now it booms as a mecca for the retired. You have some weird AM patterns in that place. Look at their 610 AM pattern sometime.

2.5kw @ 1100 in Lebanon? Wouldn't KPNW (1120) bleed over on them like crazy?

Bleed? Naw, the DX is a clean transmitter. Lebanon 1100's got all it's signal pointed west to serve very few actual people, so no loss.

These new cp station especially 1100 and 960 for Central Willamette Valley are waste. They are very directionalized and only cover cow population, not human population.

OK, this is just an estimate, based on Radio-Info.com figures but their map indicates that KPNW's 2.5mv/m contour doesn't extend up to Corvallis so Lebanon shouldn't be any problem at 5mv/m, which is all the latter station need protect at 20KHz separation. By the way, as I recall, that particular directional pattern looked like it would do the trick quite well!

Day signal covering the mid-valley pretty well if their antenna site is built well.

I double-checked this one. As I thought, it's for 5Kw with a single pattern day and night. The 5mv/m contour nearly reaches to Corvallis and Albany is no problem.

Oh boy! All those advertizing $$ in Albany & Corvallis up for grabs!

By another AM.

“CITY GRADE SERVICE
The proposed Lebanon fully encompasses the community of Lebanon in the daytime 5mV/m contour and the night 33.74 mV/m Night Limit contour.”
In other words, they get hammered at night. Just cover halfway to I-5 just covering Tallman. Tangent is outside of their nighttime interferance free coverage area.
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getattachment_exh.cgi?exhibit_id=6 34277&formid=301&q_num=5100