Heard about this on Hartmann's show this morning.

Seems like a fitting tribute.

http://www.fingersalutetobush.org/

Unfortunately, at this moment it appears that Bush and Chain-E get the last laugh. Like a pair of arsonists they have torched just about everything combustible, and in Chain-E's case blown a few faces off in the process (literally!!).

He doesn't care. He like most religious ultra-conservatives live in their own world where God's going to fix everything and you can do whatever you want with the earth. He thinks he's going to be judged like Truman (ironic since Truman was one of the biggest liberals we ever had in the White House). History will judge him all right. It will judge him to be the big cracker we see him as right now and THAT'S my finger (and last word) for him.

The best message will be, for me, to show that I have the ability to follow a leader. Not choke on everything crammed down my throat. Bush will likely be thinking " Well, YEAH, I would have been viewed differently if I had that kind of support. Who COULDN'T succeed with that? "

To which I will always say " Well, YEAH, if you showed that you cared what others thought, you may have gotten that support. But since you didn't, you get a different result."

Bush was the wrong guy for our terrible times. It's not all his fault. But I do fault him for the things he could have done better. And frankly, I believe he is aware of that now. Finally.

I believe that he DOES care. NOW. But he didn't care enough when it counted, for me.

I'm done being too pissed off at Bush and being paralyzed by it. That was my own fault and I take as much responsibility for it as I can.

All I think about right now, when looking back on anything, is how grateful I am that McCain did not win. And even I am surprised at how motivating that has become for me. Hopefully I'll get a chance to take the smallest amount of credit in what I plan to hand off to my son. Because right now, I have a lot of blame to shoulder for my son. I'll point to Bush as an example of what can happen.

Then, hopefully, I'll be able to point to Obama as an example of what can happen too.

I'm right there too.

My kids were with me watching the election returns. As they grew into teens, they talked about this stuff. Often they brought it up, and they saw me VERY UPSET.

They know about speak or be spoken for. That's encouraging really.

Count on at least one future generation staying fairly seriously engaged. I believe a whole lot of parents are thinking along these lines.

I sure wish mine had...

Funny how you learn your civics. I mostly paid attention, but it didn't really seem like it mattered all that much. Important stuff, like you don't want to devalue it, but that's about it.

Well, elections do matter. The discussions do matter!

I also suspect a lot of educators are going to take this time as a great object lesson. It's current history, history they can see and experience to a degree. Probably potent because of that.

If I were a history teacher, I absolutely would highlight a few things, not about how bad Bush was, but the value of core civics and what really can happen when those are ignored.

"If I were a history teacher..."

That reminds me: Where's Edsel, Dammit!

Well, if you also listen to Hartmann, he mentions these two books (forget the names of them) written about the four generation cycle. Every fourth generation there is a huge economic collapse caused by the excesses of the third generation's greed (yes that's you boomers). This economic downturn is usually followed by a war then two generations of economic recovery. So it's not all Bush's fault true but the sub-prime mortgage mess is almost parrallel to the housing bubble of the mid and late 1920's. Same un-regulated capitalism that caused the Great Depression. I would argue that we are currently in the Second Great Depression but no one will admit to it going on.

a "great depression "should be an objective situation, not subject to bias!is there Any relation between 1990's and 1920's??

Well, at least they have "Jeb" to carry on the legacy!

is there Any relation between 1990's and 1920's??

Why don't YOU tell us.....