Salem's KKOL Seattle has switched to All Business. I bring this up because KTRO is running the same thing that was on KKOL before last weekend. Might KBNP have some direct competition?

Salem has been doing business news in San Francisco on 1220 AM for awhile.

They might not bother in a market that already has that niche covered. They seem to be satisfied with third-string conservative hosts getting near-zero ratings on many of their stations.

Salem's owners don't care about rateings. They want to save the world with that old time religion. Jesus and consertivive GOP.

About ten years ago Entercom tried all business on one of its DA2 AMs and it didn't garner many listeners. The format died when the station was sold to Bustos a few years later.

Maybe things have changed, but I don't see KKOL doing a lot better than have with syndicated right wing talk.

As for KTRO - KKOL had KVI as a conservative talk competitor so in Seattle it was a move to gain format exclusivity. That's not the case in PDX so I wouldn't expect all-business radio anytime soon.

MORE neo-CON talk....
WOW!
So much for the Liberal media bias.

"MORE neo-CON talk...."
You get air America, so what's the complaint?
Ktro is Salem's regular conservative national lineup.
They paid $4 Million for 910.
All Business whouldn't pay the mortgage.

>>They paid $4 Million for 910

actually it's an LMA with Entercom

Are you saying Salem paid $4 million to PROGRAM 910AM?

According to Radio-Locator, Entercom does, indeed, still own the KTRO license. What are the terms of the LMA--that is, how much airtime did Salem purchase for that $4 million? What if Entercom wanted to sell 910?

You get air America, so what's the complaint?

You don't know?
WOW!
17,000 hrs a week of neo-CONer talk compaired to 3,000 of anything other than neo-CONs talking.

"anything other than neo-CONs"

the term you are looking for is NEO-COM

NO... They're CONs

I was pretty sure that "CON" is short for "conservative." Neo-conservative is used as a contrast to paleo-conservative. The latter stance takes an isolationist policy toward foreign affairs, rather than the imperialist themes of neo-conservatism. The platform of the Constitution Party has been described as "paleo-conservative."

This has not one damn thing to do with KKOL's format switch.

NEO COM = NEO COMMUNIST... IE LEFTIST IE OBAMIST

But that has not one damn thing to do with KKOL's format switch.

Other than I might point out that KKOL was formerly competing with not just KVI but KTTH 770. KKOL was the third conservative oriented talk station in the market.... On arguably the weakest signal of the three... even though KTTH has only 5kw at night while KKOL has 50kw at night albeit from Tacoma... KTTH beats KVI in most all ratings categories.

>>I might point out that KKOL was formerly competing with not just KVI but KTTH 770<<

Whoops - I completely forgot about "The Truth"! Shows you just how much right wing radio I listen to...

But isn't the Portland conservative talk market even more competitive than Seattle's? I've never understood the thinking behind KTRO. Just look at how long it took KPAM to get a ratings foothold - and it's still way behind KEX and KXL, despite all the money Pamplin has thrown at it. I've always thought it was crazy for yet another station to try to jump in. There's really no room in this market for more than two such stations.

Given the state of AM generally, KPAM probably can't expect to get better ratings doing anything else. But I'll be surprised if KTRO still exists in its present form a year from now.

KTRO is all low tier hosts.....no one compelling

My suspicion is that Salem put KTRO and similar stations on the air for ideological reasons, rather than ratings and ad revenue. I would not be too surprised if, by design, The Fish, KPDQ-AM/FM, and El Rey are subsidizing the operation of KTRO.

On the flip side of the coin, I am a bit surprised that KIRO's owners, the LDS church (Bonneville), seem to take a relatively hands-off approach with the programming. The only thing that seems conspicuously absent from KIRO's airwaves is the advertising of alcohol and related merchandise, such as hangover remedies.

On the flip side of the coin, I am a bit surprised that KIRO's owners, the LDS church (Bonneville), seem to take a relatively hands-off approach with the programming.
For more information, ask NBC fans in Salt Lake City what's missing on KSL-TV.

As for the phrase... I'm very sure it's CON. Who knows, a CONtalk station/format might work. Standard fare from folks akin to Rush, Sean, Lars, etc.; along with "new" programming like "The Financial Hour of Power with Andrew Wiederhorn," "Gun Talk with Kip," etc.

> For more information, ask NBC fans in Salt Lake City what's missing on KSL-TV.

Saturday Night Live--as I understand it, KSL had never aired this show because the LDS church considered it too crude. However, KIRO broadcasts Phil Hendrie. I can't say that I fully understand the Bonneville logic.

KSL is in Salt Lake City Utah, KIRO is in Seattle, Washington. Two completely different locales with different support. The church has more influence in Utah than Washington.

Trixter, do us all a favor and please shut your hole. No one cares about your "Neo-Con" complaints. It doesn't fly today. Not after voting The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayres into office.