Author: Vitalogy
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 10:33 am
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27320899/ The Republican National Committee spent about $150,000 on clothing, hair styling, makeup and other "campaign accessories" in September for the McCain campaign after Palin, the governor of Alaska, joined the ticket. The expenses include $75,062 spent at Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis Minn., and $41,850 in St. Louis in early September. The committee also reported spending $4,100 for makeup and hair consulting. And to think that John Edwards got crap for a $400 haircut?
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Author: Broadway
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 10:50 am
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Let's get an expense account for the Obama campaign attire and we'll call it fair.
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Author: Vitalogy
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 10:53 am
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I can guarantee you that Obama has not spent $150K on suits, ties, make up, and assessories. John Edwards could get a $400 haircut every day of the year and still not spend $150K.
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Author: Warner
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 10:54 am
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Broadway- Dark suits and white shirts don't cost anywhere near what has been spent on Palin. Who are the elite now? Neiman Marcus? Wow.
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Author: Bookemdono
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 11:19 am
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More egregious is the billing the state of Alaska to pay for carting her kids to some of her political functions. From Huffingtonpost.com: "In all, Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters' 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights since she took office in December 2006. In some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls." She appears to have a history of bilking the system for all she can.
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Author: Chris_taylor
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 12:07 pm
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Dan- The Obama campaign doesn't waste their money on that kind of expense. They don't even have a category set up for it. Obama is a very different candidate than any of us have seen in most of our lifetime. He surrounds himself with the right people, and in his own words "has no time for pima donna's." He's gone grassroots with getting money so it isn't tainted with lobbyists and big business. His ability to get people and communities to come together shows his leadership capabilities which many long time GOP members are seeing and coming around and wanting to work with him. He's a guy people can actually work with. Time to open your eyes and get on board.
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Author: Broadway
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 12:16 pm
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>>Obama is a very different candidate than any of us have seen in most of our lifetime If he becomes president he will be the most scandalous, most pro-death, anti-family, socialist and near communistic president of anyones lifetime...and all of his past records thats where he's headed. Not for me and almost half of America.
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Author: Bookemdono
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 12:32 pm
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Broadway, come out with your Hannity's down...step away from the Fox News...someone's liable to get hurt. When that loaded Limbaugh backfires in your face, it's only gonna be you wearin' the bandages, man.
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Author: Vitalogy
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 12:55 pm
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I look forward to Obama doing a great job and a lot of dickhead conservatives dining on fresh crow. Herb's gonna be first line. Old guys first you know...
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Author: Kennewickman
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 1:01 pm
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Class warfare now Vitalogy?
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Author: Chris_taylor
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 1:30 pm
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Sorry you feel that way Dan. You're spouting the "Fear Factor" so loud you can't even hear or choose not to hear what Obama is really all about. You've made him a one or two issue only candidate. Many more conservatives are listening to him and hearing and seeing that he is taking a different approach and is willing to work with others. He's the kind of guy I would want on my churches Session because he can get people together who disagree to get things done.
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Author: Vitalogy
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 1:46 pm
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Who said class warfare? What I said is that I look forward to Obama being a good president that a lot of know-it-all conservatives would have to reluctantly admit has done a good job which by definition means they were proven wrong.
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Author: Kennewickman
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 2:58 pm
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Class warfare = "old dickhead Conservatives first you know"
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Author: Littlesongs
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 4:09 pm
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I think that the "class warfare" bit is silly. If you are pretending to be Joe Sixpack and you dress like Gary Cooper, it is about hypocrisy, not class. When the RNC is desperate for campaign money, spending $150,000 on duds is probably not a "fiscally conservative" move. Personally, I think that Palin dresses like the kind of escort you see at the Benson Hotel late at night, but I would not call her one. The name calling and personal attacks are gonna have to stop if we are going to have a constructive dialog in the months and years ahead.
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Author: Vitalogy
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 4:25 pm
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Old guys first is basic manners, right? And not all old guys are dickhead conservatives like the guy I referred to. So, no, class warfare is not applicable.
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Author: Skeptical
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 4:30 pm
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near communistic president of anyones lifetime Including LBJ? LBJ escaladed the war with North Vietnam to show voters he was as good of a WAR president as Goldwater would be. It worked. Anyway, I think Hannity et al have scared the choir sh*tless.
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Author: Broadway
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 7:33 pm
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>>spouting the "Fear Factor" so loud you can't even hear or choose not to hear what Obama is really all about a little fear for the unborn is warrented...one of Obamas first duties as president...God forbid... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0__ctD48nfQ
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Author: Kennewickman
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 7:46 pm
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Oh kay...just checking....Sometimes when we type things , they dont come across the way we meant it to be.
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Author: Kennewickman
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 7:49 pm
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When you Escalade a war in Vietnam , is it like having a Cadillac Humvee in the jungle?
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Author: Missing_kskd
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 8:11 pm
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LOL@ dono & Broadway. Step away from the FOX news!! That's a T-shirt, if I ever saw one! Broadway... man, I don't know what to say. You really gotta stop swallowing the dogma whole! Let's take a look at this stuff: scandalous Really? The guy is about as clean as it gets. Are you sure you are not talking about Republicans? They've got the current scandal high score. most pro-death Who the hell is pro-death? Is that the new buzzword going around? Used to play this game with Herb. Truth, absolute truth, biblical truth, ultimate truth... Now we've got pro-abortion, abortion on demand, pro-death! LOL!! Safety tip for you: Escalating this stuff doesn't make you look good. Kind of freaky actually. Reconsider this. Just use pro-choice, then tell us why that's bad. People will listen to that where they will just laugh at pro-death! Why? Because NOBODY is pro-death. NOBODY. Saying it just marginalizes you right out of the gate. anti-family Here's another one. NOBODY is anti-family. NOBODY. Again, marginalized, unless you are speaking to your fellow club members. Guess what? They are not where your attempts at advocacy will do any good. Use equal rights for gay people and tell us why that's bad. People will listen to that. Find that tough? (and you should) That's the freaking point man! It is tough, because they have the same rights we do. I know it, you know it and they know it, so why even bother trying to frame this up as anything other than discrimination. Make the case for that and you will be a conservative hero! socialist and near communistic Ahhh. There is hope for you yet! Socialist is a bit much and you know it too. That's why you said near-communistic. Come on Broadway. Just suck it up and admit defeat on this one. Another safety tip: You've got to use the assertive language on this stuff. If your own statement concedes the point, it's not gonna be effective advocacy. Now, that's the nice stuff. Just trying to help you out. Here comes the ugly. When you use language like that, it screams "I'm scared shitless that I might actually be on the losing end of these things!" Think of it like being really gay, and trying to hide it. Lots of people know, but they have enough decency to just let you continue the facade, so you can come to terms with your issues on your own. It's like that, only minus the gay part. I think you better get used to the idea that a clear majority of Americans would rather make their own choices instead of people like you trying to make them for them.
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Author: Broadway
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 9:41 pm
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>>people like you trying to make them for them nope...just pointing out bad choices for your future. America is being "hypnotised" and will pay severely for an Obama presidency.
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Author: Skeptical
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 9:49 pm
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Hannity's hysterical mouthpiece said: America is being "hypnotised" and will pay severely for an Obama presidency. Had he not listened to Hannity, he would have said: America has been "hypnotised" and has paid severely for the Bush presidency.
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Author: Missing_kskd
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 10:16 pm
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Liar. "just pointing out bad choices for your future" There is a difference between advocacy and intent to control others. When you support people, like Palin who have made it clear they prefer to legislate other peoples choices, you have crossed the line from advocacy to threat. Secondly, you don't know that the choices of others will be bad for their future. You think you know, and that's it. Like I wrote before, I think your religious leanings are a bunch of shit. However, I know better than to try and legislate them away. You really should return the favor in like kind Broadway. Man up and just admit you have serious control issues and think you know better than we do about our future. At least that's honest. Like I said. You are highly likely to have to start getting used to the idea that a clear majority of Americans would much rather make their own choices rather than let people like you make them.
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Author: Vitalogy
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 10:21 pm
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The last 8 years speak for themselves. And nobody has been more pro-death than Bush. After all, he's succeeded in killing 4100+ US troops for nothing.
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Author: Chickenjuggler
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 3:16 am
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Palin will donate the $150,000.00 in clothes to charity after the election. Oh, it's ok then...WTF? 5 bucks says that that will not actually happen. But if it does, she'll take the charitable deduction too. Which she is perfectly within her rights to do. Because paying taxes is American - or, wait, is it un-American? I forget now. Either way, selling them on eBay will surely send a message of " Thanks for the tit-sling to nowhere, but no thanks."
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Author: Missing_kskd
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 7:16 am
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Yeah she would make a fine leader. I can here it now, "We will fix it later, right now we are gonna just do stuff." That's a nicer sounding Cheney.
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Author: Broadway
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 12:38 pm
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Anyone have a price on renting Roman columns?
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Author: Vitalogy
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 12:46 pm
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http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/obama-shoes-400.jpg Clearly Obama doesn't spend money on clothes like Palin does.
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Author: Skybill
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 1:12 pm
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How do you pronounce it? I'd start with a word like Photoshop! Just like the picture of him holding the telephone upside down. Technology at it's finest!
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Author: Vitalogy
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 1:28 pm
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That's a real photo, not photoshop.
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Author: Bookemdono
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 1:36 pm
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This is photoshop. http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/ig/Sarah-Palin-Pictures/Dancing-Wi th-The-Stars.-gU4.htm
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Author: Bookemdono
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 1:38 pm
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not sure about this one, though... http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/ig/Sarah-Palin-Pictures/Palin-Biki ni-and-McCain-Tongue.htm
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Author: Darktemper
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 1:45 pm
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Not sure about this one either..... http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/ig/Sarah-Palin-Pictures/Hot-Sarah- Palin-Photos.htm But damn.....
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Author: Darktemper
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 1:46 pm
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OMG, this one is Hilarious..... http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/ig/Sarah-Palin-Pictures/Palin-Beau ty-Contest.-Ujv.htm
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Author: Skybill
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 2:02 pm
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That's a real photo, not photoshop. Yeah, and so is this one; http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1979762 If that's what you want to believe. OK. Photoshop is an excellent program. You can do all kinds of things with it and make them look real.
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Author: Vitalogy
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 2:31 pm
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"If that's what you want to believe. OK." It's not what I want to believe, it's the truth. The photo was taken by Callie Shell who has covered Obama for some time now. http://www.guardianweekly.co.uk/?page=editorial&id=632&catID=1 "He has holes in both shoes. I remember watching him as he looked through his speech with his feet up, and I saw the holes, which was surprising because he’s a dapper dresser. I didn’t say anything because I wanted the photo, but he caught me looking. "Do you like my shoes?" he said. "No, I like the holes," I told him. "I’m not giving them up," he said. "I’ve broken them in and they’re not ready to go yet." So Bill, what else do you think you're right on that you're actually dead wrong on???
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Author: Chris_taylor
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 2:35 pm
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Uh boys...just what points are we trying to prove here?
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Author: Skybill
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 3:22 pm
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I have no idea!!! Maybe we just like to hear the sound of our own keyboard! (To twist an old saying around to modern technical terms!)
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Author: Chickenjuggler
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 3:41 pm
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Or maybe it's that it is frustrating to be shown proof of some kind of truth and still have it denied. That's what I get out of it.
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Author: Bookemdono
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 3:54 pm
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So, to put the $150k in perspective, this is what that much money represents to McCain's campaign: "From October 13th through October 19th, the McCain campaign and the RNC spent a combined $125,000 on advertisements in New Hampshire, roughly $90,000 in West Virginia, and $86,000 in Maine. In each of those states, the Republican ticket is fighting Obama for a small but potentially significant number of electoral votes. In North Dakota and Georgia, the RNC and the McCain campaign did not spend a penny on advertising during that same week. These two states seem likely to break for McCain, but it is not inevitable: Obama could potentially pick off their votes. In Indiana, the RNC spent $450,000 last week on ads while the McCain campaign did not spend anything. An additional $150,000 could have meant 33% more airtime over the course of a week. Then there is Michigan. The GOP pulled out of the state a few weeks ago and so hasn't spent any cash on advertisements there. The $150,000 they put down on Palin's clothes would not have purchased much airtime in that large market, but it may have saved McCain from the public criticism that he was subjected to for abandoning the state."
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Author: Vitalogy
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 6:17 pm
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CJ, in case you haven't been paying attention, I relish in being proven right when someone says otherwise. Nothing's better than smacking someone with the cold hard facts.
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Author: Dr_johnny_fever
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 6:25 pm
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You need a life.
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Author: Vitalogy
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 6:27 pm
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The person telling someone they need a life is usually the one that really needs a life.
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Author: Mrs_merkin
Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 8:07 pm
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True that!
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