What were some of your favorite songs that were huge back in the day, but are completely ignored today on the radio. (they dont necessarly have to be your favorite songs, but they are songs that were HUGELY popular back in the day, and for some reason they don't see the light of day on the radio anymore.

Here are some that I can think of.

Van Halen- "Poundcake"( you never hear this VH song on the radio anymore and it was huge back in the day!

Alice Cooper- Poison

Billey Joel- "its all about soul"

AC\DC "Big Balls"

Joey Lawrence, the kid brother on the TV show Blossom (WHOAH) had a short lived music career back in the early 90's. This was a huge Top 40 hit back in 1992.
Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7FtI3cmZ38

"Disco Duck" by Rick Dees? It was a huge hit in its day...

Andrew

"Undercover Angel" by Alan O'Day. Was a No. 1 hit song in 1977.

"Undercover Angel" by Alan O'Day. Was a No. 1 hit song in 1977.
That tells me more about 1977 than I care to remember.

"Rubber Ducky" by Kermit the Frog
"Lay Down" by Melanie

Disco Duck" by Rick Dees? It was a huge hit in its day...

I hear that song all the time on Charlie! I can see why most stations don't play it. After about 5 seconds you want to reach over and throw your radio out the window, OR reach over and grab a sharp object.

This is worth my 2000th post!!!!

Cat Stevens - Foreigner Suite

Harry Chapin - Bummer

John Prine - Sam Stone

Jonathan Edwards - Shanty (They actually play this every once in a while on Sirius 16)

Michael Murphy - Rosewood Bitters

Just to name a few. There are sooooo many great tunes that don't get air play anymore that we could overload Dan's server listing them!!!!!

Rupert Holmes - Him (Its reference to finding a pack of cigarettes left behind by the lady's secret lover would be considered un-P.C. today).

I don't hear much Loverboy on the radio anymore.

Miss - "Turn me loose" Good catch, Charlie should just add it.

Dropped many a quarter in the smoky and dark arcades listening to that tune, watching flickery graphics play out across dusty screens!

"Pieces of April" by Three Dog Night. A nice contemporary song that stayed on many a station's regular rotation for about 20 years after debuting in 1973 then one day, seemingly never played again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Li_Wx3Hvs

We play a number of the above mentioned songs on KBPS-AM. "Disco Duck" and "Rubber Ducky" are both on KID RHYTHM RADIO..."Lay Down (Candles in the Rain)" and "Pieces of April" are both oldies that we play.

Mary Had a Little Lamb-Thomas Edison
Popsicle-Jan and Dean
Surfs Up-Beach Boys
Watch The Flowers Grow-Four Seasons
Heartbeat It's A Love Beat- DeFranco Family.
Back When My Hair Was Short-Gunhill Road
Jesse-Carly Simon
Please Don't Talk to The Lifeguard- Diane Ray
99 Luftballons-Nina
My Girl Bill- Jim Stafford

Break My Stride - Matthew Wilder
Steppin' Out - Joe Jackson

"I Want A New Drug" - Huey Lewis

> "I Want A New Drug" - Huey Lewis

Yes! I remember that when this song came out, Canadian radio stations were banned from playing it unless the DJ clarified on the air that the song was titled "I Want A New Drug Called Love."

Anything by Barry Manilow, Michael Bolton and Anne Murray.

It must just be in other markets, because here at KTIL we play alot of the songs mentioned. Ahhh, small town radio is cool.

k103 still plays "when a man loves a woman." The Michael "no talent ass clown" version.

Someone needs to give the music director at K103 the memo.

With a few exceptions, the name of this thread should be changed to "Songs that you never want to hear on the radio again."

;)

Amus says, "Alan O'Day Undercover Angel was a #1 hit in 1977, that tells me more about 1977 than I care to remember"

Sorry, but here are some more infamous #1's from 1977:

You Don't Have To Be A Star-Marilyn McCoo & Billy Davis Jr

Torn Between Two Lovers-Mary MacGregor

Love Theme from A Star Is Born-Barbra Streisand

Don't Give Up On Us-David Soul

Southern Nights-Glen Campbell

Da Doo Ron Ron-Shaun Cassidy

Star Wars Theme-Meco

You Light Up My Life-Debby Boone (#1 for 10 weeks, the biggest charting record of the 70's)

Come to think of it, I agree, more than I care to remember!

Joey Lawrence sure looks different today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQb2Xib3rA&feature=related

Terrible Ted and "Yank Me Crank Me" (But don't wake me up and thank me).

"The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald". It was a No. 2 hit in 1976.

"The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald"

A Chris Beebe Classic Hit and as up tempo as he wanted to hear!

George Throrgood's almost 10-minute long "One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer." Last time I heard it on the radio was around 1996 or so, on the "Rockin' 107.1" station I mentioned in another thread.

Although it's worth mentioning that I *did* hear it on DMX's "Club Blues" channel about a month ago. But I wouldn't even remotely consider a music service like DMX "radio" per se, although I know several people who [mistakenly] would/do.

(The parents' groups, politicians and lobbyists might find the song a bit un-PC nowdays, because it mentions alcohol-containing intoxicants at least a couple times in passing....... ;o)


"Puttin' On The Ritz" by Taco. Used to hear it on Sunny 910/1520.

I'll probably list more as I think of them.......

"White Bird" by It's a Beautiful Day

Oh yeah, they play "White Bird" *sometimes* on KLTH. (Note emphasis on "sometimes".)

"Candle In The Wind 1997" by Elton John. Used to hear it all the time on KINK and KKCW, on my parents' radios, in the late 90's. Of course, they play his original version (well, KKCW does/did anyways) about Marilyn Monroe ad nauseum today........

Hey Roger, wasn't "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" done by Gordon Lightfoot? I've got that CD and love that tune.

Whoa Motozak2!

The "original" version of Candle In The Wind comes from Elton John's 1974 album, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, and is much much different than the version you hear on K103 today. The verion K103 plays is from Elton's 1987 "Live in Australia" LP.

He, of course, re-recorded the song a third time in 1997, folowing Princess Diana's death.

You must be a young 'un!

I have never heard the 1974 studio version of Candle In the Wind, either. I will have to go look for it now! As for the other songs, I would like to hear some of these again!!

Here are some others for the list:

Rock Me Amadeus - Falco
Dominique - The Singing Nun
Greatest American Hero Theme* - Joey Scarbury
Walking On Air - Stephen Bishop


* Believe it or not, I'm walking on air!
I never thought I could feel so free-ee-ee!
Flying away on a wing and a prayer.
Who could it be?
Believe it or not, it's just me.

I couldn't think of a more overplayed song than "rock me Amadeus", Charlie has been playing that song so much that it is almost nausiating.

DT, speaking of obscure Ted songs, try and find "Papa's Will". AWESOME tune. Ted and the Amboy's at their finest!

Actually I Googled it and here is a link to the mp3.

It seems like it's a little fast, but then it's been a LOT of years since I've heard it.

Enjoy!

http://www.esnips.com/doc/40613c71-5c57-477b-905b-515606e0fb39/Ted-Nugent--The-A mboy-Dukes---Papas-Will

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Don't know how it did that!

"Dominique" kept "Louie, Louie" out of the top spot!

wasn't "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" done by Gordon Lightfoot?

Yes Chris Beebe was a GM who came in, shook out most of our music and said GL was uptempo and that was as far back as he wanted to hear oldies. He wanted lots of GL in the rotation. It became a running joke everytime GL would come up in the rotation we would announce it as ...."off the request line for Chris", or "Going out to Chris"..............

Alfredo...The Stephen Bishop song you are trying to remember is "Save it for a Rainy Day". We play it on KBPS. In the Kid Rhythm catagory we also play "Dominique" by The Singing Nun. Other songs we play that have been mentioned since my last post include: "99 Luftballons" -Nina (we also play the english version)..."You Don't Have To Be A Star" - Marilyn McCoo & Billy Davis Jr..."White Bird" by Its a Beautiful Day..."I Want A New Drug" - Huey Lewis..and we're playing both the live version of Elton John's "Candle in the Wind" as well as the version for Princess Diana.

I have a 45 rpm single of Stephen Bishop's "Save it For a Rainy Day," but there was another hit record that Bishop had in 1989. I remember hearing this song on rotation on WFBG-AM during its brief appearance on the charts. Once it dropped off the top-40, I never heard it on the radio again. I had to do a Google search on the phrase "'walking on air' lyrics" to find out that it was Bishop who sang this. Nonetheless, I am a bit surprised that many of the songs that we consider forgotten hits can still be heard somewhere on the Portland radio dial. I even heard the infamous "Timothy" on KPSU a few weeks ago.

Has anyone heard this one on the radio recently:
Lido Shuffle - Boz Scaggs

Yup, they play it on Charlie ALL THE TIME!

Guns n roses- don't cry

Speaking of KBPS (AM), I should probably mention that on Thursday I made my annual call in to the station (when I heard it was their last day on the air there).

Told the girl (if she's 18, I apologize) on the air that I actually liked the summer format, even though I'm old (compared to them, anyway!). She thanked me since she said they don't get that many nice calls.

Then she asked me if I wanted to make a request. Well, having listened to the station before and knowing what songs they have, I requested Johnny Hates Jazz's "Shattered Dreams." I then added something along the lines of 'as an inside joke, it's dedicated to "voicetracking and automation."'

Minutes later, at a little after 2:45 PM, there it is!

That's what I miss about live DJs... you can actually give them a call, sometimes if you have something nice it really does make their day. Something else about the summer format... I don't know any other station where you can hear amateur electrical tips, or for that matter anyone who really sounds like they love what they're doing, probably knowing good and well it's probably the only station where they'll do this stuff live.

Summer Sound is a unique program...and a WONDERFUL opportunity for budding broadcasters. Thanks go out to Bill Cooper for doing his doggonedest to keep it alive!

Bill gave me a tour of my ol' radio training ground when I was visiting Portland last week. (Thanks, Bill!!) It's come a long way...and my thanks to everyone involved at the mighty 1450 for doing an outstanding job!

And yes...it *sounded* fun to listen to!!

Alfredo, Stephen Bishop did have a song called "Walking on Air" in the late 80's, but you may have heard the theme song to "Greatest American Hero (Believe It Or Not)" from Joey Scarbury, an older song with the lyric, "believe it or not, I'm walking on air..."

I listened to Summer Sound about 40 years ago and the music was current!

Alfredo..We played Lido Shuffle yesterday! We also have Boz Scaggs' "Dina Flo" in rotation as well. Does anyone have a good quality copy of "It's Over" by Boz Scaggs? I have been trying to find a copy for months without success. Thanks.

I was thinking, a week ago, that I had not heard that 1957 hit "So Rare" by Jimmy Dorsey since forever, even though I have it in my box(es) of records somewhere. Lo and behold, I heard it on 1010 a couple days ago.

"dont worry be happy" by BobbY Mcferrin.

"Time, Love, and tenderness" by Michael Bolton.
"Black Cat" by Janet Jackson.

"After the Rain" By Nelson. Remember those twin brothers in the early 90's with the fake LONG white hair??
If I remember correctly, I think they were the sons of Rick Nelson. (Matthew and Gunner Nelson were their names)
You have to check out the video for this song, too funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2se0jXJj4_4

just listen to kgon any weekend and you will hear one burgon, one scotch and one beer by george thourgood.

Tell others about 1450!

Just did this last week. Was riding in a car I had not yet checked for AM stereo capability. (2004 model) Tuned 1450, and there it was!

I got the usual (and frustrating) reaction of "wow! that sounds pretty good, no fuzz!", took a moment to explain that station and what it does.

They like it.

(Thanks Bill for all you do.)

hey bill i have your song email me or call the stoner for my number

>>Does anyone have a good quality copy of "It's Over" by Boz Scaggs? I have been trying to find a copy for months without success.<<

Just under a buck for the DRM-free MP3 download at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00138J96E/ref=sr_f2_album_2?ie=UTF8&child=B001 37GK7G&qid=1220208758&sr=102-2

>>Does anyone have a good quality copy of "It's Over" by Boz Scaggs? I have been trying to find a copy for months without success.<<

Just under a buck for the DRM-free MP3 download at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00138J96E/ref=sr_f2_album_2?ie=UTF8&child=B001 37GK7G&qid=1220208758&sr=102-2

Limewire... Free of charge and DRM

'Six to Four' - George Benson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UngsZuwDuJs

How about Alice Cooper Only Women......

Then there are these L-O-S-T 45s......

Chevy Van

Run Joey Run
Ariel (liked this one when it came out till I
heard Him sing it live on Merv Griffin)
Black Superman, Muhammad Ali
Baby I''m A Want You
Troglidyte
Harry Truman
Chickaboom
Swearin To God
The Last Game Of The Season
The Night Chicago Died
Candy Man
Fly Robin Fly
Sky High

Star-Stealers Wheel (I still like this one)

Rocky..."I never had to die before, don't know if I can do it".... (UGH)


and

Most of ABBAs hits. (MORE ABBA!!!)

was fishin thru the records and came across the K-Tel section.... had to play them! a few aged well, but obvious why some that were hits are never played

Now everybody sing

Life is a Rock but the radio rolled me.....

Bonus points if you nail the artists as the song fades............

Long ago and far away I ran this song as a contest sing the lyrics win an in dash am/fm cassette and installation courtesy of some long out of business car stereo place. Many tried, few got to the first chorus. Finally had a drawing for the stereo from all the contestants

Roger...of the songs you listed KBPS plays:
Chevy Van
Baby I''m A Want You
Harry Truman
Swearin To God
Candy Man
and every one of ABBAs hits!!!

see edited post above

hats off to you Bill. keep the ABBA, lose the rest unless you have them in once a year rotation.

;-D

>>Limewire... Free of charge and DRM<<

Nice comment from a so-called "hero". And if you were "only joking" - you forgot the emoticon.

........Author: Marianagy
Friday, August 29, 2008 - 3:03 pm

It must just be in other markets, because here at KTIL we play alot of the songs mentioned. Ahhh, small town radio is cool........

Uh, yeah. KTIL? Uhm, I'd like to hear Wells Fargo Wagon please. Yup. And, uhm, uh, Ragtime Cowboy Joe. Yup, thanks.

I heard 'Black Superman, Muhammad Ali' on 106.7 the past couple of weeks during the 1970's American Top 40 countdown played on Sunday mornings.

I listen to the 1970's countdown, not for the songs that still get played but for the songs that are never (or rarely) played anymore.

Ragtime Cowboy Joe....

Sure but which version?

There are a few tunes on this list (in Excel format) that you don't hear much...if ever anymore.

http://www.divshare.com/download/5296494-953

"Rico Suave" By Gerardo.- Good stuff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKT-o7fg2Rg

Perhaps a whole another category, but how about songs that were hits in the NW, but nowhere else, thus never played anymore.

People like Stan Forman can probably rattle off a bunch from the 60's, but I remember one from the 70's, "Sail On Sailer" by the Beach Boys. As I recall, it got a lot of airplay in the NW but never charted on the Billboard Top40.

The Wreck of the old 97
Geez ya never hear that one anymore

but how about songs that were hits in the NW, but nowhere else, thus never played anymore.

"Oregon" by Blackhawk Country. Got a lot of airplay on KPAM-FM mid-70's.

Once again...KBPS plays "Oregon (I can't go home)" bY Blackhawk County.

"Harden My Heart" Seafood Mama AKA Quarterflash.

Mix 1075 used to play that song all the time!

Mix 1075 used to play that song all the time!
They've been gone almost two years now. I'd say that qualifies as "a long time."
Also, Musicology played some bits from some of their other songs, and a brand new song on a brand new album.
I wish they podcasted the show.

I seem to be a bit of a broken record: "Harden my Heart" by Quarterflash...KBPS plays it!

I need to set a preset at 1450 so when I'm close to PDX, I can remember to check it out!


How about BJ Thomas' also rans like "I Just Can't Help Believing" and "Most of All"? Both nice songs that got a bit of airplay and lingered around for a decade then fell into the great jukebox in the sky or perhaps, KBPS's collection bin.

I need to set a preset at 1450 so when I'm close to PDX, I can remember to check it out!

I used to listen to them when I lived in Sherwood in the mid-90s (I was in high school back then). It was a bit of a stretch, but worth it. They put me live on the air as a caller back then (yes really! Scary I know), then commented something like 'he's probably standing on his head with a pan and a toothbrush in the air.' So the station actually gets out better than people initially think.

They also had a song on the playlist that, come to think of it, I haven't heard in years... Orange Astronauts' "Athletes on Acid!" Something tells me it's not in rotation there anymore...

Speaking of Quarterflash, how about "Find Another Fool"?

I just dug up a copy of Quarterflash Greatest Hits. Good stuff there besides Harden My Heart that used to get lots of airplay in their time.

In addition to Find Another Fool, how 'bout:

Night Shift
Take Me To Heart
Right Kind Of Love
Is It Any Wonder

...and a bunch that weren't ever hits...but oh well.

Skeptical...I don't have a copy of "MOST OF ALL", but KBPS is playing "I JUST CAN'T HELP BELIEVING", "EYES OF A NEW YORK WOMAN", "MIGHTY CLOUDS OF JOY", "ROCK & ROLL LULLABY" and "RAINDROPS KEEP FALLING ON MY HEAD". If you have a copy of "MOST OF ALL" I would be glad to add it!

I Do. pool all your money together and buy me a radio station i'll put all your request on the air first thing

I've "Most of All" somewhere . . . I think perhaps at my ex's . I may even be able to get that back. We'll see. BTW I tuned 1450 today in Wilsonville -- surprisingly decent reception in some areas, static in others. I didn't check out the new Sonic parking lot yet.

"buy me a radio station"

You missed out on your chance to snap up the one on eBay for $90,000.

> You missed out on your chance to snap up the one on eBay for $90,000.

Now, you would have to pay some $325,000 to buy KORC.

A great top 10 Prince hit from 1985 called: "Pop Life"...never hear it..I believe it was the follow up to "Raspberry Beret" off the "Around the world in a day" LP.

Hey Sly,
What about "Batdance" from Prince. That was a huge hit off the Batman soundtrack and you never hear that song on the radio today.
Here is a blurp about the song from Wikipedia.

Batdance" is a song by Prince, from the 1989 Batman soundtrack. Helped by the film's popularity, the song reached number one in the U.S., becoming Prince's fourth number-one single, and first since 1986's "Kiss." On Aug. 5, 1989, it knocked Martika's "Toy Soldiers" out of the top spot, but was quickly replaced by Richard Marx ("Right Here Waiting") the very next week. When "Batdance took over the No. 1 spot, another movie soundtrack hit, Bobby Brown's "On Our Own" (from "Ghostbusters 2") was in the runner-up position. "Batdance" was Prince's first single to be issued on compact disc in the U.S.

Add Martika's "toy soldier" to the list.And Bobby Brown "on Our own" From Ghostbusters 2.
That Bobby Brown song was played NON stop on top 40 radio back in the late 80's but you never hear it on the radio today.

Speaking of Bobby Brown, He had a huge hit in 1992 called "Humpin around". That song was huge during my senior year of High School.(they played that song at My senior prom and it really got people moving. I have yet to hear that song on the radio since 1992.

Speaking of Bobby Brown, He had a huge hit in 1992 called "Humpin around"... I have yet to hear that song on the radio since 1992.
I think I've heard it on Charlie on Saturday Nights before.

I Do. pool all your money together and buy me a radio station i'll put all your request on the air first thing
(sarcasm follows)
I think the idea of starting up something like "PDXRadio Acquisitions, LLC" or whatever has been discussed... the total capital we could raise was somewhere around $4.73, and nobody could agree on what format the first acquired station should run.
(end sarcasm)

"What about Batdance from Prince?"- Great tune! Other semi hits I recall off the Batman LP:
"Partyman", the whimpy duet with Sheena Easton called "The arms of Orion" and "Scandalous". The lady I was dating at the time was a huge P fan and she played the entire album constantly. I seen P in 2004 on the Musicology tour and he was great! I wish these days he would put out better quality music instead of wasting his time suing every fan that posts a picture or song from him on youtube etc...

Yet no one remembers Jan and Dean Meet Batman.

Fun album.

any oldies on 262 and 91!!!!

Yes-Batdance! There was some controversy with this song having the words "Get the FUNK up" at the begining and a clip of the Joker saying "Oh, you son of a bitch!" at the end. Some radio stations and venues played an edited version that did not include these parts.

I thought of this one while posting in the "Sonic" thread on the "Politics and Other Things" board:

Catherine Wheel - "Delicious"

How about Jim Backus - Delicious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTP_y8AexZE&feature=related

Bobby Goldsboro's "Honey."

Michael Jackson- Smooth Criminal (one of the best MJ songs by far)

and

Michael Jackson- Man in the mirror

"Tarzan Boy" - Baltimora

Some of the above songs are by "One Hit Wonder" artists. Here's a fun site to revisit.

http://www.onehitwondercentral.com/

Nice link!

I love one hit wonders! It's a bummer we didn't see more from many of these, but on the other hand, that one hit is interesting, creative and often very differentiated.

Hey, September 25th is "National One-Hit Wonder Day". Spin-em' up!

Prince- Diamonds and Pearls
Prince- my name is Prince
Prince- 7

Huey Lewis and the News- Back in time
Huey Lewis and the News- Couple days off

Bon Jovi- Keep the faith

Mariah Carey- Emotions

Fire House- Love of a lifetime

Bryan Adams- Thought Id died and gone to heaven
Bryan Adams- Do I have to say the words

Michael Jackson- Black or white

Genesis- No son of mine

Jon Secoda- just another day without you

Vanilla Ice- Play that funky music white boy

Mc Hammer- Pray

Bobby Brown- Good enough

Kenny Loggins- Nobodys fool

Cyndi Lauper- The Goonies R good enough

In 2 Deep- back to the hotel

Kris Kross- warm it up Kris

Joe public- Live and learn

Paula Abduel- Promise of a new day

Saigon Kick- Love is on the way

Def leppard- Lets get rocked

Billey joel- River of dreams

Madonna- Justify my love
Madonna- Erotica
Madonna- whos that girl

C&C Music Factory- Things that make you go hmmmm
C&C Music Factory- here we go (lets Rock and Roll)

Richard Marx- Hazard

Rod Stewart- Downtown Train
Rod Stewart- Broken Arrow ( I will admit, I LOVE this song)

That's an interesting link. There's a section for
"removed artists". This appears to be where they found out that a one hit wonder had more than one hit. I liked the inclusion of such names as Nancy Sinatra and(drum roll)The Animals!

Janet Jackson and Luther Vandross- "The best things in life are free"

Hootie and the BLOWfish- let her cry

This one hasn't come up on this thread yet, but I just heard one I haven't heard for probably years, courtesy of C89.5's online stream:

Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity

The song was everywhere around 1996!

Day by Day -Godspell
Oh Happy Day-Edwin Hawkins singers

So they won't be played because they have religious themes. But why do they play Spirit in the Sky -by Norman Greenbaum every 5 minutes (it seems like?) That has a religious theme.

If it tested well WITH THE CORE AUDIENCE, they'd play it. I've heard a new version of "Oh Happy Day" on KKCW-HD2, the Smooth Jazz station.

They don't play "Mary's Prayer" by Danny Wilson. That song had a religious theme, too. Maybe, it is too Catholic?

"What were some of your favorite songs that were huge back in the day, but are completely ignored today on the radio. (they dont necessarly have to be your favorite songs..."


How about songs that should have charted better but didn't....

Holiday-The Other Ones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3DsfGffOdM
Had the record company figured out it's best to promote the single everywhere at the same time this would have been a top 10 hit...just like the B-52s did a bit later.

Strange But True-Times 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9bZ5Q_4iEE
Perfected polished bubble gum pop. Cause of failure: Dysfunctional radio promoters just like above. Cecilia was their hit but who knows why?

Ritual-Dan Reed Network
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isZxL_uh3pw
After Quarterflash, NuShooz, I thought they would be the next big thing. What happened? They cut a killer remix, had great hair, good video...

I guess its all in the timing.

After Quarterflash, NuShooz, I thought they would be the next big thing. What happened? They cut a killer remix, had great hair, good video...

I guess its all in the timing.

And a dose of luck. In the music business, actual talent means zip if you're a Portland musician.

Jeeeez guys, y'all missed Having My Baby by Paul Anka & Odea Coates, One Tin Soldier by Coven (I think), Which Way You Going Billy from The Poppy Family, Angel On My Shoulder by Shelby Flint.

As long as we're talking about songs played in the Northwest...

There are two from the late 60s/early 70s that I would love to find again, and I can't think of a better place to ask.

1. A song that poked fun at Californians coming to Oregon (probably inspired by Gov. Tom McCall's infamous come-here-to-visit-but-don't-stay sentiment). Don't remember artist or title, but do recall that I heard it on KEED in Eugene in probably 1971-72 era. The portion of the lyrics that stuck with me: "Get your Airstream off of my home; turn your own jungle back into a Garden of Eden."

2. Much more elusive. Heard one time on a Eugene station in the same era, or a year on either side. Female folk singer, and the lyric fragment was "Lone star pine, drunk on midnight wine."

Any information about those two would be most gratefully received.

Thanks!

When Atlantic Records signed Nu Shooz they actually only signed John and Val... That effectively broke up the 8(?) piece band.

The remix was made by some DJ in Holland sampling bits of a Madonna song in.

in the last year or so an EP of acoustic versions of "I can't wait was independently released.

How about songs you'll likely not hear on the radio??

Just got Metallica's newest, check out the track lengths.....not exactly radio friendly are they???

1. That Was Just Your Life 7:08
2. The End Of The Line 7:52
3. Broken, Beat & Scarred 6:25
4. The Day That Never Comes 7:56
5. All Nightmare Long 7:57
6. Cyanide 6:39
7. The Unforgiven III 7:46
8. The Judas Kiss 8:00
9. Suicide & Redemption 9:57
10. My Apocalypse 5:01

Is anybody out there playing it??

Don't Say You Don't Remember- Beverly Bremmers
Thunder and Lightning-Chi Coltrane
One Night Stand-Magic Lantern
Timothy- The Buoys
Ramblin, Gamblin Man- The Bob Seger System
Summertime- Billy Stewart

Hey Temper, Rock Radio is playing the hell out of the new Metallica album. All the big rock stations around the country are playing the new metallica .

One thing is for sure, you'll never hear top 4o touching metallica. but who cares? Rock stations are eating the album up.
I love the new metallica album, what do you think of it temper??

Most rock stations don't give a crap on how long a song is. Top 40 does.

How about Never Ending Song of Love-Delaney and Bonnie and friends. OR Rock and Roll Lullabye by BJ thomas. I have a few songs on tape from the Stoner and I sure miss his forgotten favorites hour. Could some station pick that up?

I kinda like "Only You and I know" by Delaney & Bonnie and Friends, recorded live. Includes Eric Clapton

If you're looking for:
-Don't Say You Don't Remember- Beverly Bremmers
-Thunder and Lightning-Chi Coltrane
-Ramblin, Gamblin Man- The Bob Seger System .
-Never Ending Song of Love-Delaney and Bonnie and friends.
-Only You and I know" by Delaney & Bonnie and Friends.
-Rock and Roll Lullabye by BJ thomas.
KBPS-AM plays all of 'em!!

Cooper's right, if you haven't given KBPS a listen you don't know what you're missing! It's the only station this old broad wakes up to each and every AM.

Ahh, Valerie, you aren't an "old broad", you're a "seasoned veteran"!

Thanks Bill, I would smile but it would make another wrinkle!

I have KBPS on for the high school game of the week.Its fun hearing the young announcers.

FYI...This week's "game of the week" will be tomorrow night (Thursday). No school Friday, so no games! Kickoff at 7pm on AM-1450 KBPS.

Dammit Val. This is the last time I will overlook your cheating ways! You'll be hearing from my attorney as soon as he gets back from his junket with fine folks at AIG.
All my love to all.
CB

Charlie, if you would just bring that HUGE transmitter of yours closer to the Portland area I would be yours forever!

"How Much is That Doggie in the Window" Patti Page
"Drunk Again" Butterfield Blues Band

Two tunes that I think I heard on KLOO this week.

1010 was playing that little Patti Page tune a while back.

If I didn't know better, Bill, I would say you read these boards and see what people say they would like to hear and you go program it and tell us that you play it on KBPS.

I think Bill has the sound of a radio station in his head...It's much the same type of thing that you and I do, too. The only difference is Bill has the chance to actually put it on the air!

And thanks for that!

Good sounding AM Stereo too. Sounds great in the car.

Beano--KKCW plays Jon Secada's "Just Another Day" quite often. I also heard "Things That Make You Go Hmmm" on Charlie's at a local convenience store about a month ago.

And Wayne, I think I still have my old bootleg 8-track tape with Godspell's "Day By Day" that I got from my neighbour in Canada.....sound quality isn't that good tho..........

(Ah crap, now I can't get that song out of my head. Thanks a lot Wayne. *laughs* ;o)

I found it on the internet. I heard the original version of "Music Music Music" by Teresa Brewer from 1950 on 1010 . That had the guitars on it.

Jimbo...I've got 2000 oldies in rotation right now and about 1000 songs for my "Kid Rhythm Radio" formats (weekdays 6a-3p). I was playing the songs mentioned in this thread a long time ago!

And Mark...Have you been listening to my brain again?? Remember, the radio always sounds better when you program it yourself!!

That first song might be on KLOO-AM!

I like to listen to NetOldiesRadio and I just now heard "BlueBirds Over the Mountain" by the Beach Boys. Its one of my favorites and has a great guitar solo and I never hear it on the radio. I notice it was written by Ershel Hickey who might be Paul McCartney? the publisher is Northern Songs which published the Beatles.

http://loudcity.com/stations/netoldies-radio

Here is its website. They play a lot of forgotten favorites

Ersel Hickey was a '50s rockabilly singer who never quite made the national top 40, but can be found in the Rockabilly Hall of Fame. The Rockabilly Hall of Fame link does not document his death in 2004 at age 70.

NetOldies has his version of "Bluebirds" available. I'm a little surprised they don't have any of his other songs.

NetOldies is playing "I'll try something new" by the Miracles which I just love.

and how about the current number "Next Plane to London" by the Rose Garden?

I have been listening to Netoldies for the last 1.5 hours. Sounds good but playing quite a variety. I did hear Roy Orbison and Roger Miller twice in the hour. They are playing many "forgotten" oldies.
I wish they would put up the name of what they are currently playing.

http://loudcity.com/stations/netoldies-radio/files/show/

Check this out

I was Kaiser Bill's Batman!!

Lita Ford- Give me one shot of you're sweet poison"

CHICK ROCK FROM THE 80's!!

"Shapes of Things to Come", by "Max Frost and the Troopers", from the 1968 movie, "Wild in the Streets"

You say you want a revolution?........

"I was Kaiser Bill's Batman" Believe it or not, KBPS-AM has had that tune on the air for many years!

anybody ever figure out what the least favorite top40 hits were?the most don't play that! anti-requests?caused much button pushing to change the station?dumb lyrics!dtupid groups!??

If you go back to the 1960s, there were tons of songs that were geared to adults and most of them never see the light of day anymore. As far as something from the rock era, I can barely stand "Honey" by Bobby Goldsboro and that was a huge hit! Also, most novelty songs never make it past their original run. My all time least favorite would have to be "Teen Angel" by Mark Dinning. There's just something about the line, "They buried you today."! Really, any of those "death songs" are horrible: Last Kiss, Tell Laura I Love Her, Patches, Ebony Eyes etc.

How about:
Laurie by Dickie Lee, Leader of the Pack, Shangri Las,Last Kiss-J Frank Wilson Timothy-the Bouys, Hey Joe-Jimi Hendrix, Maxwell's Silverhammer-the Beatles. All songs about death

Mc Hammer- 2 Legit to Quit

Roxette- Faiding like a flower

Guns n roses- Don't Cry

Genesis- no son of mine

Michael Jackson- Remember the time

Van Halen- can't stop lovin you

SWV- Right here(human nature)

I don't consider "Leader of the Pack" and "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" in the same vein as the others because they clearly aren't serious. The Everly Brothers' "Ebony Eyes" was apparently intended to make you break right down and cry! There's an old Country song, more of a narrative, called "Roses For Mama". It's about a guy who calls his mother to tell her he can't make it for Mother's Day because he's too busy. He stops at a store to buy some roses for her and sees a kid who also wants to buy some but doesn't have enough money. He gives the kid the money and on his way out of town, sees the kid leaning over a grave and the kid says, "Mama sure does thank you for these pretty roses!". He rushes back to the store, picks up his roses and takes them to his mother. Not a dry eye in the house!

"Leader of the Laundramat"?
"dead man's curve"?

Remember "the Night the Lights went out in Georgia" by Vicki Lawrence. That was number one. It was a gruesome story about a murder that someone was falsely accused but it turned out his sister pulled the trigger.
I heard Ray Manzurak say that "Riders on the Storm" by the Doors was closer to death than anything they did including "the end." Riders is one of my favorites.

> Really, any of those "death songs" are horrible: Last Kiss, Tell Laura I Love Her, Patches, Ebony
> Eyes etc.

Don't forget "Timothy," which was already mentioned in an above post, dated August 30. I wouldn't say that these "death songs" are necessarily horrible, but they don't fit the concept of "good times and great oldies," so they are purged from oldies playlists. In other words, the program philosophy of oldies radio today tends to exclude songs with very dark lyrics and songs about controversial subjects. If they were big hits back in the day, then people obviously liked these songs, at least when they were first released.

GTR 'WHEN THE HEART RULES THE MIND'

The thing about the Buoys "Timothy" (written by Rupert Holmes, the pina colada guy) was that it was structured like an uptempo, catchy pop tune, but it was about cannibalism! They don't make 'em like that anymore.

Here is an excerpt of the Timothy lyrics:

I must have blacked out just around then
'Cause the very next thing that I could see
Was the light of the day again
My stomach was full as it could be
And nobody ever got around
To finding Timothy
Timothy...

What the heck, it's the weekend...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGNdvKvbxYQ

Mack the Knife by Bobby Darin has death overtones too, if you listen to the lyrics.

Interestingly, "Mack the Knife" was on many Oldies--and later Nostalgia--radio station playlists. The lyrics are pretty violent.

"Mack the Knife" is an older song than that. Another one that I just found out was old is "Who's Sorry Now?". I thought Connie Francis had the original version until I heard the song being performed in a Marx Brothers movie.

Mack the Knife originally had German lyrics and was part of the musical Die Dreigroschenoper (The Three-Penny Opera). This German play premiered in Berlin in 1928. I didn't know any of this history until I looked up the Wikipedia article for the song ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_the_Knife ).

Didn't Ernie Kovacs use the German version in a couple of his legendary skits?

very short versions of Light my fire and Inna-gadda-ds-vida!!the intro was spliced onto the ending!!!??how about Auto-bahn?fun fun fun on the autobahn! by ???I don't remember what group did it!!!?Kinda strange!!??Had some sound effects in it!!

"Autobahn" by Kraftwerk, 1975. What a lost classic!

ddid Kraftwerk have any other hits??

do not want to everhear again:halfbreed-Cher
Muskkrat Love -The captain & tenielle
Kung Fu Fighting--??

Off The Wall - Michael Jackson
Shattered Dreams - Johnny Hates Jazz
Spy In The House Of Love - Was (Not Was)
Get Off - Foxy
Guilty - Barry Gibb & Barbara Streisand
Morning Dance - Spyro Gyra
Any song by Ambrosia
What You Won't Do For Love - Bobby Caldwell
So Alive - Love and Rockets
You Make Me Feel Like Dancing - Leo Sayer
Valotte - Julian Lennon
Rub You The Right Way - Johnny Gill

> Kung Fu Fighting--
Carl Douglas.

Others:

Popcorn - Hot Butter*
"9 to 5," "Telefone," or "Sugar Walls" - Sheena Easton

*See http://www.popcorn-song.com/ for a very big list of the many covers of this song that have been made over the years. Very likely, you will instantly recognize this song when you hear it. Rick Emerson sometimes uses it on his show, but it is seldom heard on music radio stations.

There was also a short lived kids show on KATU that used the "popcorn" song as an opening theme, back in the late 70's-early 80's, if I remember correctly.

It sounds like popcorn popping and set to music. "9 to 5" is "Morning Train" in America for obvious reasons.

> "9 to 5" is "Morning Train" in America for obvious reasons.

Because of a Dolly Parton song that used the phrase "Working 9 to 5?"

Beano--

Didn't Gerardo also do an English version/translation of "Rico Suave" as well?? Because I seem (vaguely) to remember hearing something like that on Z100 in the very early 90s. Maybe I was imagining it??

I know, I know...this is getting old...but KBPS-AM is playing all of the following tunes:

Halfbreed-Cher
Kung Fu Fighting-Carl Douglas
Shattered Dreams - Johnny Hates Jazz
Guilty - Barry Gibb & Barbara Streisand
Morning Dance - Spyro Gyra
How Much I Feel - Ambrosia
What You Won't Do For Love - Bobby Caldwell
You Make Me Feel Like Dancing - Leo Sayer

Same era as Hot Butter "Popcorn", is one of my favorite not played anymore...

Apollo 100 "Joy"

You might remember it from the movie "Boogie Nights" with Mark Wahlberg.

Take a vinyl listen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yXh5N3Y5aM

Speaking of instrumentals, one of my faves is the Assembled Multitude's "Tommy" overture. KBPS plays that doesn't it Bill?

NetOldies just now played a song called "God Love and Rock and Roll" by Teegarden and Van Winkle. I hope that if the Stoner plays oldies again he can bring that one. its an all time favorite of mine

The funny thing about the list that includes the Johnny Hates Jazz song is that I posted on Aug. 30th the fact that I was able to call in to 1450 KBPS, request the song, and hear it a few minutes later. Anytime I hear any of the high school kids on the air, it sounds like they're having a blast (even if they're playing music that's older than they are and stumbling over names of people and locations in the news reports), like they know this will probably be the only time they'll get to play DJ on an actual radio station.

Scott...Yes, we have the Assembled Multitude's "Tommy"...and to follow up from an earlier post...I forgot to include that we also play Hot Butter's "Popcorn".

Newflyer...Thanks for the comments about my kids on the radio. They do have fun, and you're right, most will never have a career in radio. But whatever they go on to do in life, their experiences at KBPS hopefully will help them do better in whatever career they choose.

"OPCORN WAS A CORNEY TUNE,IMO!!!!GET RID OF IT PLEASE!POP THAT 45 INTO THE TRASH,ASAP!!

SCORPIONS- "Tease me Please me"
Bon Jovi- "Bed of roses"
Tevin Campbell- Can we talk
Real mccoy- Another night
Coolio- gangstas Paradise
Def Leppard- Have you ever needed someone so bad
Roxette- Joyride
Steve Perry- you better wait
Milli Vanilli- Girl Im gonna miss you
Heart- I didn't want to need you
Heart-Stranded
Def leppard- Two steps behind
Dino- Oooh Child
Michael Jackson- Keep it in the closet
Michael jackson- Black or white
SWV- Weak
Bobby Brown Featuring Glen Medeiros- She ain't worth it

And lets not Forget Our good Pal Rick Astley, he had more than one top 40 hit. He had that god-awful ballad "Cry for help".
You'll remember it when you hear it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV5lwmZXibk

I thought since it is Halloween time, Its time too break out another Rick Astely hit!

This is Not a Rick Roll!

LOL! Ok, one more Rick Astley hit.
The video for this song is so damn fanny, you have to check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onrzgB_-0sM&feature=related

I have been listening to this station all day and wish it had a Portland outlet. You hear a lot of songs you don't hear at all and its all accoustic

http://www.boomerradio.com/playernew/player.html?stream=cafe&u=true&format=acous ticcafe

the George Harrison singing version of "It Don't come easy!!

"http://loudcity.com/stations/netoldies-radio

Here is its website. They play a lot of forgotten favorites"

I was listening to this over the weekend and they do, in fact, play a lot of the oldies that you never hear anywhere. I would even surmise that they play things even BillCooper @ KBPS doesn't have. I decided to test their request icon and put in a few and it came back and said it put them in the que and they would play in about an hour. Sure enough, they showed up in about an hour. Not in sequence but separated by a few other cuts. It did not matter what they were. I put in two by the same artist and they played them both, separated by about four other cuts. When you type a song title, it may come up with several versions of that song....and it will play whichever one you want...... short or long.
For 50's and 60's, this looks like a good alternative.

The ultimate request line!

I think that a more accurate description might be "one of the few request lines still in existence."

the phone companies might bump up the price of a request line!especially a "???forign exchange line!!

You don't dial it in on a phone line. You enter it on their website while listening.

Reading about what KBPS-AM has become makes me a little jealous. My time in the mid- to late-80s at the station was for the most part robotically playing tapes of NPR programming and the occassional locally-produced "performing arts" show. Music DJing was limited to a 2 hour block in the evenings (if at all), nothing on the weekends, and even "Summer Sound" was only on for 4-5 hours a day.

Today's KBPS-AM seems to be what I spent years begging Kevin Flink and "Herself" Patricia Swenson for: a station for the kids, by the kids. Unfortunately, it seems like all that came after my time. I'm very happy for the kids who get to participate in that program today, they definately are enjoying the fruits of the labor of all us who came before.

Chumbawumba - Tubthumping
Verve, The - Bittersweet Symphony
Verve Pipe, The - Freshmen

OH Come on Alfredo. Ever hear of Charlie FM and 94.7??

Those songs are played to death.
NEXT!

I was just going to say that I heard the first two yesterday on Charlie.

Hey Trix, Charlie is also playing "Rock N Roll Train" By ACDC

What!? Somebody still plays these 1990s one-hit-wonders??? I'm in shock.

I just heard "I'm To Sexy For My Shirt" from Right Said Fred yesterday on 98.3 "The Peak".

Verve, The - Bittersweet Symphony
Verve Pipe, The - Freshmen
..."I'm To Sexy For My Shirt" from Right Said Fred...
Three songs that if I never heard ever again, no loss!

The Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony" is one of Alternative rock's top 10 all time songs.

Not to mention its also The Rolling Stone's most profitable single in the last 20 years!

"Right, Said Fred" is an obscure song about a group of people building a house. It's similar to the idea behind "There's a Hole in the Bucket" but much more involved. Peter Marland Jones used it for exit music at KKEY over 30 years ago. I was quite surprised to hear a 90s group with the same name! There's no way that can be a coincidence!

> Not to mention its also The Rolling Stone's most profitable single in the last 20 years!

Yes-that song's dark, pessimistic tone ended up becoming somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy for The Verve because of copyright issues with the orchestral hook that it used. The court awarded copyrights to ABKCO Records (the copyright holders for the Rolling Stones' 1960s material) and songwriting credits to Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. All of the royalties were turned over to Jagger, Richards, and ABKCO. Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bittersweet_Symphony and scroll down to "Song Credits" for more information.

November 24th would be a good day to spin some Village Sound and mark the anniversary of an infamous flight from PDX.

I confess that I am a bit late ringing in on the 1450 lovefest. As a Summer Sound alumnus from back in the day, I agree that the station has never had a better music library or more variety. Of course, when Chrispdx and I were there some things were totally out of our control. For instance, we both suffered through the Iran-Contra hearings that scuttled most of our shifts in 1987. Because of the vision and dedication of Bill Cooper -- and the generosity of Scott Young -- KBPS is hands down the best music station in Portland. They have some great up and coming talent in the program too.

Littlsongs...thanks for the kind words about KBPS. We have some exciting things coming up. More on that later. But I did want to mention that very soon KBPS-AM will be the sole owner of those call letters. KBPS-FM is giving up the call sign in favor of KQAC. Their network of stations in the Dalles, Hood River, on the Oregon coast near cape foulweather is being billed as "the stations of "All Classical FM".

One more note. Littlesongs said that we have some "up and coming talent", and we do...but I wanted to mention that a student who graduated this past June (after taking a national gold medal for radio production from SkillsUSA *) is now the morning intern for Nelson and Terry on The Buzz. Zack is currently attending Portland State. He has a desire to have a career in broadcasting, and I think he's talented and creative enough to do it.

*-You can check out SkillsUSA at www.skillsusa.org

Bill: Wow, that is news! How long before KBPS-FM becomes KQAC? Will KQAC Gleneden Beach become KQGB, mirroring KQHR Hood River? The KQGB calls are not being used at this time I believe.

There's something else I didn't think I'd live to see like the collapse of the Soviet Union and an African-American President!

Craig...don't know the timing of the call letter change yet, or what they will use on the coast. I'm just glad that it will happen.

I can see why. I'll bet there's been a lot of confusion on both stations with listeners.

to respond to Chrispdx's earlier comment...you may have hit a brick wall getting "Herself" (PLS) to make any changes...but I know for a fact that Kevin Flink always championed your cause. He fought for years to get more time for kids to actually be on the air rather than run tapes and do short ID breaks. Kevin was primarily responsible for be getting the GM's job at KBPS and helped me make the changes I made over the past few years. If it wasn't for Kevin's dedication over more than 30 years at KBPS, the program may very well have ceased to exist years ago. Just thought I should give credit where credit is due!

Bill, I appreciate your response, and believe me, I know that Kevin was under PLS's Eight-Ball for most of the things that he wished the kids could do. There were two definate "cliques" in KBPS back then: Kevin and Ron Ross on one side, and PLS and Darryl Conser (sp?). Swenson and Conser considered the kids to be a nuisance, and pretty much did anything they could to limit the student's involvement in what they considered to be "their artsy radio stations", especially the FM side, which got most of their attention. Being a student of KBPS at the time was pretty frustrating, but also very rewarding, and I wouldn't trade my experiences there for anything.

I remember a Kevin Young who did the Beaver games for awhile and who later was KPAM's manager. He started on KPBS.

Wow, You learn something everyday. I never knew Kevin worked at KPBS in San Diego!

to the best of my knowlege Kevin Young never worked at KPBS in San Diego...or at KBPS for that matter.

Sorry about the misprint. I didn't know there was a KPBS. I meant KBPS.

KINK is playing the long version of In a gadda da vida by Iron Butterfly. They play a much better variety of oldies when they play them than some oldies stations I must say.

Wayne: Keep listening to KINK. I think you'll find they changed format today!

Kink XL? Could Lars be coming to KINK?

Ugly Kid joe- Cats in the cradle
Jade- don't walk away
Color Me badd- I wanna sex you up
The Heights- How do you talk to an angel
Paula Abduel- the promise of a new day
Martika- Toy soldier
U Crew- If you were mine
Surface- the first time
Richard Marx- Hazard
Janet Jackson- black cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdZVgKv_HzI

Check out this old MC Hammer video! I have never laughed so hard in my life!

-This is not a rick roll!

Is that a banana in Hammer's pants? My goodness!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9xxZZIj38Y

"Said I loved you but I lied" by Michael Bolton.

BEANS!
You just LOVE that mullet warrior don't ya! WOW! I was..... going to get The Best of Bolton for you but YOU probably already own his entire collection.
Have fun with that Beans....

Trix,
If I were to look inside YOUR IPOD, I'm sure I would find some Michael Bolton mixed in with Brittny Fox and Enuff Z Nuff.

Embarrassed to admit that you went to see Michael Bolton during the "Time Love and Tenderness" tour? I would be too if I were you!

If your only copy of a song is on MP3 then you don't have the song. MP3 is so sept. 10th. C'mon peeps. We demand blu-ray in its uncompressed audio glory. But music on MP3?

"Maggot Brain" by Funkadelic.

But, there's probably a reason for that.

Trix,
If I were to look inside YOUR IPOD.

Don't need the POD I've got everything on my Blackberry. Right now I have AC/DC and GNR's new album along with The Wall.

Embarrassed to admit that you went to see Michael Bolton during the "Time Love and Tenderness" tour? I would be too if I were you!

Saw you there Beans... Wasn't that you in the 2nd row with the flowers? And didn't you throw your undies at him....? I'm sure it was you. Beans, your a mullet warrior! It's time to take down the Bolton poster. I'm surprised that your mom didn't do it years ago......

"If your only copy of a song is on MP3 then you don't have the song. MP3 is so sept. 10th. C'mon peeps. We demand blu-ray in its uncompressed audio glory. But music on MP3?"

Some of us don't really care. Most of my music is on my computer in 128 to 192 MP3 compression, and I honestly can't tell the difference when it's playing through my car stereo, ipod headphones, or computer speakers. It's enough for me that I have the music available to me, most of it obtained for free.

Sorry to learn your hearing is shot. I once thought I couldn't hear the difference between mp3 and uncompressed files. Until I A-B it. You can! It's what you settle for.