Eugene TV

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Author: E_dawg
Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 5:19 pm
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How did Eugene, (was 2nd largest city in Oregon) only got 2 VHF-Allocations? Portland has 5, Medford has 4? Eugene only has 2? (CH.9 & CH. 13).

Author: Theedger
Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 5:26 pm
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Location, Location, Location!

Ch. 2 in Portland and Klamath Falls
Ch. 3 in Bend
Ch. 4 in Roseburg
Ch. 5 in Medford (King Mountain)
Ch. 6 in Portland
Ch. 7 in Corvalis
Ch. 8 in Portland and Medford (King Mountain)
Ch. 10 in Portland and Medford (Mt. Ashland)
Ch. 11 in Coos Bay
Ch. 12 in Portland and Medford (King Mountain)

Author: Kennewickman
Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 1:56 pm
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The Eugene market was considered close enough to Portland to get translated signals easily , or in many cases to the North of Eugene, the primary signal itself. Also, cable systems were cropping up in fringe area markets by the early 60s.

Allocations have to be established based upon the physics of propagation and Eugene lost out on VHF assignments because they are barely 100 miles "line of sight' from Portland ( Sylvan-Skyline ) with very little inhibiting natural terrain down in the Valley to suppress co channel or adjacent channel interference. And offsetting channels only goes so far, especially with the old TV recievers everyone had " back in the day "..

Eugene was lucky to get 2 VHFs when you consider Ch 12 and CH 8 in Portland as adjacent channels. A ch 4 in Eugene was probably considered to close to KOMO for comfort 50 years ago. Also sticking Roseburg with a UHF channel was not a good Idea because of the terrain around there, to many hills and to many signal shadows at UHF freqs...hence a low band ch 4 was allocated for Douglas co, and its far enough away from Seattle with a natural suppression from mountains in SW Oregon.

Here in the Tri Cities we have only 1 non translator VHF channel ( 11 ) allocated for this region, licensed to Pendleton and that was only allocated for an upgrade from a low power Pendleton translator in the early 90s, it is offset from KSTW and Pendleton is licensed at much less power than KSTW. Pendleton ( Spout Springs ) to Port Orchard( KSTW ) is less than 300 miles 'line of sight ' with the Cascade Mountains as a natural suppresor, hence the allocation was granted.

KFFX 11 is really a translator on Steroids as there is no local origination to speak of, regional nightly news comes out of KAYU in Spokane.

Author: Craig_adams
Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 9:37 pm
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Eugene is lucky to have two VHF commercial channels. Back in the 1950's Eugene was allocated just one (13) and one non-commercial channel (9). At the time Medford was allocated just one VHF channel (5).

Author: Csb
Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 10:55 pm
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If you want more info on signals and how far they reach to understand this, you can go to tvfool.com (click on online coverage maps and type in the call letters) and it will give you a better idea of how the markets along the I-5 corridor are closer than one would think. For example, Medford's KDRV/12 has weak reception up as far as Albany/Corvallis. There is also KPTV and KVOS/12 in Bellingham. Each of the neighboring 12s slightly overlap in some places.

I just wish they had call letter lists for each market so it was easier to search.

Author: Pdxbg
Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 12:30 pm
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I just moved to Corvallis from PDX for the life of me can some one explain to me or point in the right direction as to why the channel 12 here isn't KPTV?

Author: Radiogiant
Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 4:01 pm
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Corvallis is part of the Lane/Benton County DMA
Your local fox is KLSR, CBS is Kval, ABC is KEZI.

If you lived in Albany it would be different, then you would get Portland channels.

Author: Pdxbg
Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 4:53 pm
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well see I have comcast and I have 2 Abc 6 Cbs 8 is NBC as well. however I get it now I just thought it was funny that 2,6,8 are the same just not fox


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