Author: Field_strength Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 2:26 pm |
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So who was it that said that KRYP had leveled off at the last book? Wow! A little 1600 watt station takes #1. |
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Author: Alfredo_t Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 2:52 pm |
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Wow--that is no joke: http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/DetailsPage.aspx?MID=202&RY=2008&RQ=2&M P=0&OTHER=2&MN=Portland&MS=OR&MR=23&12P=2049600&UP=7/31/2008%2012:00:00%20AM&SU= CM&BPER=2.9&HPER=10.0&OPER=&NSD=10/20/2008%2012:00:00%20AM&CE=0 |
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Author: Semoochie Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 3:54 pm |
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Cripe, they're #1! I stand guilty but that isn't exactly what I said: After the last book of 4.1, I said I thought they had peaked because previously, they had gone 2.7, 2.8 and 2.7. I hate to say this but the handwriting appears to be on the wall: Kool has stalled at 1.5 with some decidedly older demos and the #1 station is spanish with no other FM competition. Clear Channel has been known to air spanish formats elsewhere. The only question is whether 105.9 will try to get a piece of that 6.4 share or simulcast KEX, giving the latter a good chance at #1! I don't think I have to look this one up: This is the first spanish speaking, first Salem Broadcasting and lowest power #1 station in Portland history! I'll have to back off on that last part: KISN was #1 at 1Kw until 1966. Still, that's 42 years! |
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Author: Jay_zie Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 3:58 pm |
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Station Format Sp'08 |
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Author: Radioxpert Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 4:36 pm |
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93.1 "El Rey" is a great station, which could certainly benefit from better Salem coverage! They need to bump KKNU to 93.5, so 93.1 can upgrade to a C1, if not C0! 93.5 KHAL, Condon (C1) should be far enough away from KKNU (C0) as a co-channel. |
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Author: Alfredo_t Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 4:39 pm |
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I am not meaning to be a complete stick-in-the-mud, but one of the things that I remember when I heard the KRYP sign-on was surprise at the lyrics of some of the songs they played, taking into account that the station is owned by a supposedly "Christian" company. I guess that money talk$ quite loudly, even in the halls of Salem Communications. |
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Author: Nitefly Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 4:52 pm |
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It's interesting that every single one of the political talk stations is down, and all but KPOJ are down rather sharply - in an election year! Wonder what that's about. (My guess is that the aging of that format's core audience is finally taking its toll on the ratings. If that's the case, then it should be happening to political talk stations nationwide, not just in Portland.) |
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Author: Strum40 Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 4:56 pm |
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Everyone at The Fan must really hate the Mariners now. |
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Author: Beano Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 5:15 pm |
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Looks like Jammin had a good book! |
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Author: Jay_zie Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 5:25 pm |
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I think with these numbers Salem should Sale KRYP. Do you think Bustos should buy KRYP or other Portland FM to get a better reading in Portland? |
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Author: Pdxradio Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 6:02 pm |
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Jammin having a good book? |
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Author: Notalent Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 6:05 pm |
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This is what you get when you are a "sanctuary city" |
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Author: Justin_timberfake Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 6:14 pm |
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Jammin will kill Z100, just give em another book. |
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Author: Broadway Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 6:51 pm |
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>>the lyrics of some of the songs they played |
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Author: Sutton Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 7:31 pm |
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Jay_Zie, are those numbers 12+ or 25-54? |
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Author: Semoochie Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 8:06 pm |
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Those are 12+ numbers. It looks like Salem may have gotten their money's worth, after all, just on a different frequency! It's only part of a book for either Jammin' or The Game. |
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Author: Kevin_s Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 8:37 pm |
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Big D'OH for dropping Jammin and going with the Game |
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Author: Alfredo_t Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 11:37 pm |
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> You wanna tell us Anglo's what those songs are saying since we're not bi-lingual |
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Author: Semoochie Friday, August 01, 2008 - 2:12 am |
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I was surprised when my fellow youths(boys and girls)sang "Cecilia" in the church. For those who don't know the words, "Makin' love in the afternoon with Cecilia up in my bedroom, I got up to wash my face. When I come back to bed, someone'd taken my place." |
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Author: Craig_adams Friday, August 01, 2008 - 2:23 am |
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KRYP is making big radio news across the nation. "El Rey" was one of the main stories on Thursday's R&R website. Here's what they're saying: |
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Author: Radio921 Friday, August 01, 2008 - 10:11 am |
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This is just the beginning of FMs doing Spanish in Portland. When the next one comes in the question will be can KRYP handle it. |
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Author: Yodaddy Friday, August 01, 2008 - 10:42 am |
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Radio 921 |
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Author: Semoochie Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:25 am |
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I would think any listening to a spanish station beyond spanish dominant would be incidental. I've talked to second generation hispanics who don't like spanish formats at all and prefer K103! |
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Author: Justin_timberfake Friday, August 01, 2008 - 12:54 pm |
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Jammins numbers did go up, But They still need to improve the variety of music and get a lot more of the newer music on quicker. I've been hearing people at work(non radio people) complaining about the variety on Jammin. They are still playing the same 5 songs over and over during the work week. This is going to hurt them big time! |
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Author: Eastwood Friday, August 01, 2008 - 4:41 pm |
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I keep waiting for TDanner to hop in here and explain diary weighting.... |
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Author: Inthemiddle Friday, August 01, 2008 - 4:57 pm |
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Jammin will kill Z100, just give em another book. |
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Author: Radioxpert Friday, August 01, 2008 - 5:26 pm |
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Jammin' won't be "killing" Z100, anytime soon, unless some major changes are made. |
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Author: Radiohustla Friday, August 01, 2008 - 5:57 pm |
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jammin will kill z1oo hands down |
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Author: Bonger Friday, August 01, 2008 - 6:47 pm |
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Burradio is number one? |
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Author: Kevin_s Friday, August 01, 2008 - 7:31 pm |
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I want Jennifer Marlow unbanned, I miss her honest analysis |
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Author: Beano Friday, August 01, 2008 - 10:28 pm |
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Cbs should have had jammin together the minute it switched over to 1075 but they didn't. CBS should have had a full LIVE airstaff ready to go but they didn't. Cbs is cutting corners, to save money, but it will continue to bite them in the ass. There is no excuse for the afternoon show to be jockless. Didn't they learn anything from Movin 1075 that had very little air talent? |
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Author: Semoochie Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:18 pm |
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It was only about 3 weeks or so. They couldn't have been much higher! |
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Author: Beano Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 12:02 am |
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So what are you saying? We should wait for the next book to see Jammins actual ratings smmooch? |
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Author: Jimbo Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 5:56 am |
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Maybe I don't read that report correctly but the heading is Spring 08. The switch did not hit until mid summer. Even though the update is July 30, the heading is Spring. If those are the ratings for Spring, how can you say the ratings are up for Jammin 107.5? |
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Author: Beano Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 8:41 am |
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Jammin should have had everything ready to go when they switched to 1075. |
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Author: Tha_frozen_one Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 8:47 am |
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BEANO SAID: |
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Author: Egor Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 8:49 am |
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Beano is right. Jammin' should have used the move to the new frequency as a "promotion." Rather than treating it like "just an operational move." Jammin' should have emerged on CBS as a much better station. |
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Author: Beano Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 8:50 am |
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"If I were him I'd separate myself from you quicker than Obama dropped his Pastor....well...maybe even a little quicker than that." |
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Author: Tha_frozen_one Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 9:18 am |
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I love how you keep erasing the posts I crack you on and repost something completely different. lol |
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Author: Semoochie Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 11:47 am |
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Beano, yes, that's what I was saying. Even the second trend would give some idea. Based on the information still available, it sounds like Beano was trying to make a point that the switch was earlier than Jimbo thought and the wording was misconstrued by The Frozen One to mean that Beano didn't know what constituted "spring". That's the problem with using sarcasm. Sometimes, it backfires. |
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Author: Tha_frozen_one Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 3:48 pm |
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Semoochie darlin' |
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Author: Gale_tulare Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 4:04 pm |
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Has anyone bothered to offer the people at El Rey a hardy CONGRATULATIONS! They deserve to bask in the glow for a while. Meanwhile, we're halfway through the next ratings period already. |
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Author: Egor Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 5:33 pm |
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Quite an accomplishment here in the Pacific Northwest, another great moment in broadcasting! |
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Author: E_dawg Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 6:24 pm |
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Can we have these format in Portland. |
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Author: Radioxpert Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 8:34 pm |
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Unfortunately, they wouldn't survive here. 1150's Spanish AC format didn't do well. |
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Author: Big_ears Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 9:41 pm |
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"Unfortunately, they wouldn't survive here. 1150's Spanish AC format didn't do well" |
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Author: Semoochie Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 12:20 am |
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Usually, the only one who calls me "darlin'" is my wife but it's nice to be appreciated. |
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Author: Beano Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 12:30 am |
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LOL! Thats cute, I think Freeze has a crush on you smooch! |
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Author: Radioxpert Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 5:02 am |
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Speaking of Spanish AC, I'm surprised that "95.1 Amor" KSND hasn't seen a slight showing in the Portland book, which includes Salem. 95.1 provides an enjoyable, unique format for the valley, but doesn't have very good audio quality. |
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Author: Miketrunnell Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 7:31 am |
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has anyone considered why a station whose core audience represents a mere ten percent of the population (how many p2's could el rey really have)? in portland reigns supreme? ten percent of an entire population (within that population) is certainly a great arbitron showing, but ten percent between other populations is much different. how is it that hispanics are so overrepresented in what is supposed to be a random sample of the total population? discuss...tanner? |
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Author: Big_ears Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 7:52 am |
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KSND doesn't have good audio quality?, neither programing, is a big mess, they are just playing music without any order. is even worst than former 1150 Spanish AC Magia |
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Author: Radionut Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 8:45 am |
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Does anyone know why KCMD is still listed as Comedy when they have be Talk for some time? |
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Author: Egor Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 9:13 am |
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Mike Trunnell asked, "Has anyone considered why...?" |
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Author: Eastwood Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 11:07 am |
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And then there's diary weighting. It's a TDanner thing. |
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Author: Robin_mitchell Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 8:48 pm |
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Haven't seen the actual book, but you can bet in dissecting it this is what you'd see: |
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Author: Alfredo_t Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 10:04 pm |
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Before going to a Christian format, 1150 had three different Spanish language "brands." Its first Spanish format was "Romance 1150." This was a pop format featuring love songs. Next was "Magia 1150." From listening, I could not tell the difference between this and the "Romance" format. Neither of these played Regional Mexican, giving them a very different sound than La Grande. After that came the "Ke Buena" format, which had some overlap with "La Grande." |
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Author: Big_ears Monday, August 04, 2008 - 7:29 am |
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"Neither of these played Regional Mexican" |
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Author: Yodaddy Monday, August 04, 2008 - 10:41 am |
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Semochie, |
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Author: Beano Monday, August 04, 2008 - 12:54 pm |
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So El Ray is the reason for Jammin's decline. Yikes. |
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Author: Cweaklie Monday, August 04, 2008 - 12:59 pm |
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K103 might even find some unemployed air talent named "Cha-Cha" to host one of the dayparts. |
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Author: Beano Monday, August 04, 2008 - 1:02 pm |
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Im waiting for the new afternoon air talent on K103 that goes by the name pronounced( whore-hay) |
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Author: Justin_timberfake Monday, August 04, 2008 - 1:35 pm |
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You can bet that Jammin 1075 will not hire a black guy for thier afternoon show, you can bet that Jammin will not hire a white boy for their afternoon show. |
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Author: Egor Monday, August 04, 2008 - 3:01 pm |
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Just heard more info on KRYP. They're being consulted by Jose Santos, who programmed at KLVE in Los Angeles at some point. |
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Author: Alfredo_t Monday, August 04, 2008 - 3:29 pm |
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> I wonder what they hell were those people filling in before El Rey Launched. |
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Author: Saveitnow Monday, August 04, 2008 - 4:07 pm |
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2) Hispanics spend more TSL with terrestrial radio than your average listener. |
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Author: Alfredo_t Monday, August 04, 2008 - 4:44 pm |
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> 2) Hispanics spend more TSL with terrestrial radio than your average listener. |
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Author: Yodaddy Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 11:01 am |
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I suspect that most were filling in "La Grande." |
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Author: Yodaddy Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 11:07 am |
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Alfred T |
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Author: Tadc Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 1:49 pm |
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This is a great example of how, with modern radios and transmission gear, having dozens of KW of power is totally unnecessary to cover a large area. |
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Author: Alfredo_t Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 2:16 pm |
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In a number of other countries, such as Chile, metropolitan area FM stations have ERPs in the range of 1-10 kW. The difference is that those broadcasters have a slightly different model of how they operate: these are not standalone FM stations. Instead, they belong to regional or national networks. |
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Author: Craig_walker Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 2:21 pm |
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Cweaklie, |
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Author: Radioxpert Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 2:50 pm |
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So, when might 105.9 be flipping to Regional Mexican? |
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Author: Broadway Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 3:26 pm |
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>> La Grande didn't have the ratings El Rey has...so they were listening to something else |
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Author: Cweaklie Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 3:34 pm |
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Cha Cha, |
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Author: Radio921 Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 6:45 pm |
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Ok KRYP. Its total cume is just a little higher than KGDD was about 2 years ago before they got the competition they have had with KXPD and later KRYP entering the market. So for a market leader as far as Spanish media is concern the total cume is not too far off. |
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Author: Semoochie Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 8:30 pm |
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No one got my reference to "Cripe"? |
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Author: Inthemiddle Friday, August 08, 2008 - 7:54 am |
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NRK goes Spanish??? |
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Author: Craig_walker Friday, August 08, 2008 - 2:01 pm |
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Cweaklie, |
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Author: Kkb Friday, August 08, 2008 - 2:47 pm |
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Spanish music on 94.7 paired with Spanish talk on 970?? |
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Author: Radioxpert Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 3:52 am |
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93.1 El Rey's "Listen Live" link still doesn't work! |
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Author: Beano Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 1:58 am |
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The best bet would be 94.7 switching to Spanish music. Their ratings would skyrocket if they switched to all spanish music. |
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Author: Shane Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 2:36 am |
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"I agree that many Englsih Dominant Hispanic prefer English programming. But many of the weighted diaries come from the HDHA zipcodes. In those HDHA's zips both English and Spanish dominant listeners live. I wonder what they hell were those people filling in before El Rey Launched." |
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Author: Egor Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 10:05 am |
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Don't miss the El Rey story in the Sunday Oregonian. What a great radio story! In these days of radio gloom and doom! |
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Author: Bunsofsteel Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 2:54 pm |
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This IS HUGE. I guarentee you some station in Portland will switch to an all spanish station very soon because the numbers are incredible. Will it be Kool 1059 or 94.7? Its going to be one of these stations. |
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Author: Notalent Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 4:18 pm |
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What's HUGE is Shane suggesting that Hispanics engage in "gaming the system" |
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Author: Jay_zie Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 7:58 pm |
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I think it'l be 94.7 fliping to "La Preciosa" or a Regional Format. They'd be dumb not to. |
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Author: Dalehughes Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 8:10 pm |
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94.7 switching format. Absolutely not! It's perfect as is |
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Author: Radio921 Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 9:12 pm |
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If you look at the size of the stations audience it was a a little larger than what KGDD had when it was ruling the airwaves of Hispanic radio about a couple of years ago. El Rey had a TSL of 18+ hours. Come on lets be realistic thats a bit skewed though I do believe a large percentage is listening to them. |
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Author: Alfredo_t Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 10:14 pm |
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Does anyone have the links to the numbers from the pre-El Rey days? I do remember that within a book of the start of Spanish on 93.1, its ratings were approximately those of La Grande and La X combined. I remember making some comment to the effect that the new station had picked up many of the listeners of the existing Spanish stations but hadn't brought many new listeners to the format. |
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Author: Craig_adams Monday, August 11, 2008 - 2:02 am |
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Pre-El Rey - Spring 2006 12+ |
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Author: Captaindan Monday, August 11, 2008 - 6:33 am |
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Hey Egor, the Portland Business Journal beat the O by two days with a better story. |
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Author: Egor Monday, August 11, 2008 - 9:23 am |
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Found it, thanks! |
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Author: Shane Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 12:31 am |
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Notalent, |
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Author: Ness Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 11:11 am |
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I agree with YoDaddy, Alfredo T & Shane. |
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Author: Craig_adams Friday, August 15, 2008 - 9:13 pm |
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This from the August 14th edition of "El Hispanic News": |
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