It's long, about 15 minutes, but self explanatory;

http://www.wlky.com/video/16509601/index.html

Statistically speaking, there's no good reason to carry a gun unless you are in the security or police business.

This guy and his wife WOULD be dead if he wasn't armed.

Watch the video.

100% of criminals prefer unarmed victims.

Just because you're willing to play the victim doesn't mean the rest of us are willing to surrender our 2nd Amendment rights.

God bless them, but the police cannot be everywhere.

God, Guts and Guns are what make America great.

Herbert 'My President is Charlton Heston' Milhous

"God, Guts and Guns are what make America great."

Herb's God=Unloving and controlling.

Herb's Guts= All talk but will not even buy a ticket to Iraq.

Herb's Guns=What would Jesus carry.

If you're not the ant-Christ Herb, you come in a close second.

You forgot Girls!

Herb's God = Unforgiving and controlling.

There. Now it's all good.

(He also forgot to mention NAMBLA and ACLU, his second and third most favorite "must work into every thread" buzzwords.)

Well that could be Guys and Gays!

The G's:

Girls, Guns, God, Gays, Guys, Guts, Gangs...

Any we missed?

"Just because you're willing to play the victim doesn't mean the rest of us are willing to surrender our 2nd Amendment rights."

First of all, I dare you to provide any proof to the fact that I'm asking you to surrender your 2nd amendment rights. I'm not. I'm simply pointing out the FACT that you're more likely to be the victim of an accidental shooting (or someone in your household) than becoming the victim of a violent crime.

For people like you it's all about making your dick feel bigger than it is about anything else. So carry your gun, thump your chest, and hold onto your ball sack. Hopefully your family doesn't meet the fate of so many other families ruined by the barrel of a gun that shouldn't have fired.

Yeah, damn guns.

Has NOTHING to do with the person holding the gun.

Typical of society today. Never take responsibility for anything, always blame someone/something else.

M_K, sing it with me now:

"Great Green Gobs of Greasy Grimy Gopher Guts..."

...As of tomorrow I will start carrying a gum again.

not just a piece either. I'm carrying the whole pack.

When someone asks if I'm packing heat I'll show them some Cinnamint. I've had it in my sport coat since 1974 and never had to use it.

Might I reccommend chicklets for the ladies as they are easy to conceal in a purse, and Bazooka for the he-men.

I recommend the very offensive "Big Red". It should do the trick...my dad used it, and we were terrified when he pulled that out! Run!

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/493636.html

End of story.

Herb

If I were a man and plucked my eyebrows like that I'd carry a gun as well. I'll bet $50 that it's in his purse.

Yawn.

Another ad hominem attack.

Classic leftism. Attack the messenger when you can't handle the truth.

Yawn.

Herb

I googled "accidental shooting child" and although it's not recent, this came up as about the 3rd item, and is from the Seattle PI.

Interestingly, the witness's last name is the same as the author above.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/98554_shot05.shtml

Here's a recent one from this weekend...shooting and killing your best friend while getting ready for a wedding in the back yard...Utah-style!

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_9525791?source=rss

Attack the messenger when you can't handle the truth.

That's ALL YOUR side does Herb! That's what EXTREME RIGHT radio is!

All non-NRA supported stats show that more guns equal more gun deaths, contrary to what the NRA lobby wants you to believe. You may "feel" safer, but you're putting yourself and those around you in more risk than being sans gun.

I have mixed feelings regarding guns in the home only because while growing up me and my little sister bout got killed via family blunders in handling guns in the home. We lived on 3 acres so having them was fun but now as an adult in town and my wife very opposed to them in the house, have not touched one in years and havn't missed them...but wish I could get me a C02 bebe pistol to get rid of some of those pesky birds...just to scare away.

More guns, less crime.

Read it and weep.

'Dirty Herby'

More guns, more people killed by guns, period.

More cars, more people killed by cars. Duh.

However, it is a proven fact that in all 32 or so states that have enacted "right to carry" laws, the crime rate has dropped since they were enacted.

Please show me your source for the " More guns, more people killed by guns, period." statistics.

And if your are going to knock the NRA stats, then don't show me stats from some group like the Joyce Foundation and such.

Bill, we've already gone over this, so I'm not going to waste my time proving my point again. The objective stats prove you wrong, and frankly, so does common sense.

I have an excellent reason to carry ag gun...
I'm re-loading hold on....

Guns in the home are FAR more likely to kill family members than anything else.

BLAM! Oops, sorry sis.

>>BLAM! Oops, sorry sis

Hey, I can relate...seriously..my little sister almost got killed when our 20 gauge accidently went off and sprayed pellets at the one end of her crib where she was'nt sleeping!

>>Guns in the home are FAR more likely to kill family members than anything else.

I think there might be stats to back that up...accidental shootings of family or friends mishandling guns in the home not locked up...of mostly children.

"Guns in the home are FAR more likely to kill family members than anything else."

It's not just accidental shootings of family members...when someone points a gun at someone else intending to shoot that person, very often they are related or housemates. Or that gun will be used as a tool to commit suicide. Either way, your gun is statistically most dangerous not to 'bad guys', but to those you know or love.

In case a few folks missed it, I am a supporter of the Second Amendment. With that said, I am also in favor of gun control. How does that work?

Well, for starters, I think that Canada has a good system. The criminals do not have guns because the penalties are crippling across the board. There are no "gun show" loopholes, quickie background checks or easy funnels for guns into poor urban communities. They have many happy sportsmen and a more than adequate rural law enforcement environment.

I am a firm believer in background checks. If it takes a few days, so be it. A handful of days for a firearm is nothing compared to the weeks that some background and reference checks can take. When you apply for a loan, it takes time. When you close a house, it takes time. When you apply to a school, it takes time. When you are getting investigated for a job, it takes time.

I am completely against purchasing guns on the internet. You cannot buy booze and you cannot buy smokes, so why should you be able to buy guns? If a kid in one college can order on-line, kill and injure a bunch of folks, that is bad. If a kid can do the exact same thing a few months later ordering weapons from the same outfit, that is utterly crazy.

I think that folks out in the country should feel secure in their homes. They should be assured that the rifle or shotgun they have is perfectly legal if it aint around the young'uns. At the same time, nobody ought to be able to pick up a handgun in a bad neighborhood, especially one that sells for under a hundred dollars. Some kinds of guns are banned for good reason. If you need an automatic weapon to drop a deer, I would suggest getting a good pair of glasses.

Remember: Guns don't kill people, people kill people. This killing is done with guns they get from other people. Requiring solemn responsibility from gun sellers and buyers is not without precedent. Liquor stores, bartenders and even private citizens are liable when they dispense alcohol. When folks are irresponsible, bending the rules or operating outside the law, you can have a tragedy.

Yes, I’ve always enjoyed the “guns for all” sentiment. Maybe in Butcher’s Holler, crime, which I’m sure, is nearly non-existence. But in urban America, let’s be honest. Dump a handgun into the residence of every home and you’ll see a mass escalation of violence. Yet in order to give the pro-gun lobby a fair shot proving its contention (no pun intended), we’ll move Wayne LaPierre into a residence in the Hollenbeck section of Los Angeles and see if his mass gun ownership plan deters criminal activity.

"I am completely against purchasing guns on the internet."

If you mean purchasing a firearm online and having it sent directly to you, that is a federal offense. Firearms purchased through Websites must be shipped to a licensed firearms dealer in your state, where you may receive your gun if you pass the Instant Check.

Talpdx, LOL. Exactly.

Magic_eye, imagine getting a license to drive because you could pass the eye test. An "Instant Check" does absolutely the bare minimum to insure the safety of citizens. It does not address basic factors that ought to be weighed in gun ownership.

It sounds like going to NAPA to pick up an alternator. '64 Ford pick-up? Yup. 12 volt? Of course. Clickity-clickity-click. Here you go. Lessee, are you a felon? Nope. Are you a U.S. Citizen? Yup. Any warrants? Nope. Clickity-clickity-click. Ding. Enjoy your gun.

One glaring omission in background checks is the mental state of the buyer. In the Northern Illinois University case, we had a Veteran with severe PTSD who was on medication, or at least supposed to be on meds. He quit taking the pills and fell into a deep funk. He had a documented history of mental illness, but it did not factor into a background check for his purchase. He was provided weapons and it cost his life and the lives of others.

There is an interesting cause and effect relationship that developed out of the VT and NIU shootings.