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Author: Herb
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 9:28 am
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Like Ol' Herb has said all along...the left uses a flexible view of truth whilst dismissing the notion of absolute Truth:


"The honesty gap is also not a result of “bad people” becoming liberals and “good people” becoming conservatives. In my mind, a more likely explanation is bad ideas. Modern liberalism is infused with idea that truth is relative. Surveys consistently show this. And if truth is relative, it also must follow that honesty is subjective.

Sixties organizer Saul Alinsky, who both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton say inspired and influenced them, once said the effective political advocate “doesn’t have a fixed truth; truth to him is relative and changing, everything to him is relative and changing. He is a political relativist.*”

During this political season, honesty is often in short supply. But at least we can improve things by accepting the idea that truth and honesty exist. As the late scholar Sidney Hook put it, “the easiest rationalization for the refusal to seek the truth is the denial that truth exists.”


http://www.examiner.com/a-1419425~Peter_Schweizer__Conservatives_more_honest_tha n_liberals_.html

*He's also a moral relativist.

Herb

Author: Mrs_merkin
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 11:53 am
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Sorry, I couldn't get past "Like Ol' Herb sez", because I got the instant picture of Jimmy from the Athletic Club on "Seinfeld". Can't stop laughing...

Author: Vitalogy
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 11:58 am
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I think conservatives lie when being questioned in these polls and that they are no more or no less honest than liberals.

Author: Missing_kskd
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 12:02 pm
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Absolutely true.

In fact, I linked a study that significantly correlated mental illness with strong authoritarian conservative ideologies. There is a decent case for it being the other way around, if there is variation.

Herb, they mentioned Nixon quite often too! That fact got the link here in the first place. It does make a person wonder... :-)

Go and watch the "Great Debaters" for an absolutely solid rebuttal to your post.

Author: Talpdx
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 10:24 pm
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Study or no study, we've lived under the leadership of a CONSERVATIVE president who has lied in such grotesquely monumental ways that he should be rotting away in prison, not living in the White House. In some ways, I think he’s completely delusional. His reality is so skewed that he’ll rationalize to death his deplorable antics under the guise of presidential leadership. I don't think that 70 percent of the American public is wrong when they question his leadership of this country.

Author: Broadway
Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 6:38 am
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>>president who has lied in such grotesquely monumental ways that he should be rotting away in prison, not living in the White House. In some ways, I think he’s completely delusional. His reality is so skewed that he’ll rationalize to death his deplorable antics under the guise of presidential leadership. I don't think that 70 percent of the American public is wrong when they question his leadership of this country.

The same statement could be made regarding President #42

Author: Chris_taylor
Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 8:22 am
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And many other presidents, pastors, lawyers, teachers, lay people, broadcasters, musicians, parents, police officers.....

But let's stay with the current guy in office since we are living with some of his decisions. Your grandchild will be paying off the debt this president has placed as a huge burden for future generations.

Author: Broadway
Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 8:48 am
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Agreed and agreed...Bush #43 along with Congress has really disappointed me regarding raising the deficit that as you said Chris my grandson will be paying off along with hugh FICA withholdings to keep us soon geezers alive???

Author: Larbear
Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 12:43 pm
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Hey let's not pick on conservatives! In fact, conservatives always like a good Ted Kennedy joke, so I made-up one for them. "Long time Democratic senator, Ted Kennedy underwent surgery today where surgeons removed half his brain. Doctors expect Kennedy to make a full recovery,as a Republican. :-)

Author: Missing_kskd
Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 1:25 pm
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Nice one!!

Author: Aok
Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 5:44 pm
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Well, ol Herb also thinks you aren't a good American if you don't:

Wear your flag pin
Sing patriotic songs
and above all
DON'T question your government unless of course it's the democrats in charge.

Isn't that right, ol Herb?

Author: Talpdx
Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 6:03 pm
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Herb's posts are like reading material Norman Lear wrote for Carroll O'Connor in "All In The Family".

Author: Trixter
Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 9:28 pm
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LOL!
LMFAO!

The best thread ever!

Like Nixon was honest..... LOL!


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