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Author: Deane_johnson
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 8:29 am
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Nothing wrong with letting your hair down with a drink after a hard day campaigning, but she should have confiscated all cameras before doing so.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23488377-details/One+for+the+end+of+t he+road+Merry+Clinton+knocks+back+whisky+on+campaign+plane/article.do

Author: Herb
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 8:32 am
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Ya know, I'm probably her most vigilant opponent. But even Ol' Herb will cut Hillary a tad O' slack when it comes to having a drink or two.

In fact, maybe if Mrs. Clinton were to have the occasional drink, wear something besides pant-suits and not always go for the jugular, she might be ahead.

Herb

Author: Missing_kskd
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 8:33 am
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We are all just human from time to time. I'm sure everybody here has gotten hammered at some point in life. (well, most everybody)

Happens.

Yep. Bad call on the cameras.

Author: Deane_johnson
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 8:47 am
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I'm now getting small thumbnails on the site, before they were much larger. If you right click and go to "view image" you get the larger ones.

By the way, they make her look almost normal.

Author: Herb
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 8:50 am
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Knowing how smart Hillary is, the decision to allow cameras may have been intentional in order to show the lighter side of Mrs. Clinton's personae. The problem? That too, is probably fake. But I still don't begrudge anyone a good drink.

Herb

Author: Missing_kskd
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 8:52 am
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Don't you just love producers and spin doctors? In this electronic age, they look at EVERYTHING.

Scary stuff.

Author: Broadway
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 9:04 am
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Yes there's electronic eyes and ears all over the place and people out there trying to make a buck selling your mis-speak/blunder/trip.

Oh to be human.

Author: Amus
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 9:30 am
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Isn't it a bit petty to criticize Mrs. Clinton for wearing pants-suits?
I mean come on!

Would you opinion of her be any different if she dressed like June Cleaver?

Author: Vitalogy
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 11:56 am
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There's nothing better than a whiskey on the rocks. Preferably Maker's Mark.

Author: Chickenjuggler
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:00 pm
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"In fact, maybe if Mrs. Clinton were to have the occasional drink, wear something besides pant-suits and not always go for the jugular, she might be ahead."

No kidding. And pants-suits are funny to me. I wear a Sombrero everywhere I go. I expect people to notice that eventually. I'm not offended. I just like Sombreros.

Author: Herb
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 1:09 pm
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And as far as Southern Baptists not voting for Mrs. Clinton because she knocks back a stiff one, she wasn't likely to get their votes anyway, what with her vote to allow partial birth abortion.

Herb

Author: Vitalogy
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 1:47 pm
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Southern Baptists are exhibit A of "people who vote against their economic best interests".

Author: Shyguy
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 1:58 pm
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I was very dissapointed when I saw a news clip of Hilary at the Maker's Mark Distillary in KY dipping a bottle in red wax.

Mark Samuals you need better taste in canidates than that.

"I'll have a Maker's Mark...UP" - Juno McGuff

Author: Aok
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 4:36 pm
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Southern Baptists can just live with it. Heaven knows more problems come out of the "moral" south than anywhere else. They need to worry about their own messes and stop trying to elect politicians that will impose what they think is right on the rest of us. That's why I hate them so much.

Author: Trixter
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 4:40 pm
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Her vote to allow partial birth abortion.

SB have more problems then they can shake a stick at anyway. If they care about Hillary at all that shows a lot about their character.

Author: Talpdx
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 10:23 pm
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I don’t mind her drinking, but I did find the whole set up a bit contrived. I wonder what Bill is like after a few beers? Maybe Monica could share a tale or two. Just kidding.

Author: Broadway
Friday, May 30, 2008 - 10:58 pm
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Booze can get you in trouble so much. I stay away from it entirely...don't have it in my home nor frequent friends who drink since the early 90's. Personal moratorium thing going on because of the societal devastation it causes. If Hillary would have just not gone there we would have not had this post but to most this does not change her image/vote.

Author: Skeptical
Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 12:43 am
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Well, at least some of the Hee=Haw vote that would have gone to good old boy McCain will now go to hillbilly Hillary.

Author: Mrs_merkin
Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 9:40 am
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Gosh, should I be worried about the "societal devastation" I caused last night? I had 3 champagne cocktails with dinner.

And I doubt that the friends" that My-Way dumped because they drink miss him much.

Author: Darktemper
Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 10:27 am
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"that My-Way dumped because they drink miss him much"

Hitting it again this morning I see!

Author: Mrs_merkin
Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 11:07 am
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OK, rephrase:

I doubt that My-way is missed by his ex-friends who continue to wreak "societal devastation" upon the earth by having a drink or two.

I hate it when Moses shows up at Jake's during Happy Hour wearing his wet blanket and tunic to preach the bible.

Major Fun-Sucker.

Author: Broadway
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 7:44 am
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Ya know I get zapped if I mention the Bible or if I don't mention it...again a personal moratorium but I do agree... alchohol is a "Major Fun-Sucker"...DUI's with jail time...the loss of a job...family embarasments....don't need it...JMO...give me my Mt Dew.

Author: Chris_taylor
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 8:33 am
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I'd stay away from the Dew myself. High fructose corn syrup, artificial sweeteners and a bunch of other bad "fake" sugar.

Too much sugar in your blood stream holds fats cells in and is one of the leading causes for obesity or weight gain. It's one of the reasons I don't drink cola's at all.

It's water for me. Keepin' it lean and clean.

Author: Deane_johnson
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 8:42 am
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From another forum:

The study you refer to found an association between metabolic syndrome and soft drink consumption - it didn't identify soda as the cause of the syndrome. The study was an analysis of findings from the famous Framingham Heart Study that has been going on since 1948 in Framingham, Mass. In this particular phase, a group of participants were followed from 1987 to 1995. They had physical exams, filled out food frequency questionnaires and about every four years had blood tests to track their serum cholesterol and triglycerides and their blood glucose levels. At the outset, 6,039 of the 8,997 participants were free of metabolic syndrome, a cluster of risk factors that can quadruple the chances of having a heart attack over the next 10 years. Having any three of the risk factors below constitutes having metabolic syndrome:

* Waist circumference: at least 35 inches for women and at least 40 inches for men.
* Fasting blood glucose at least 100 mg/dL
* Serum triglycerides at least 150 mg/dL
* Blood pressure at least 135/85mmHg
* HDL ("good") cholesterol lower than 40 mg/dL for men or 50 mg/dL for women

About 35 percent of the Framingham participants reported to the physicians who examined them that they drank at least one 12 ounce soda per day, while 22 percent noted on their food questionnaires that they averaged at least one soft drink daily. After adjusting for age, gender, physical activity, smoking, intake of fat and total calories and other dietary factors, the researchers found that the rate of metabolic syndrome was 48 percent higher among participants who drank at least one soft drink daily (diet or regular) than among those who didn't report drinking sodas, regardless of whether the sodas were regular or diet, caffeinated or decaf.

The question now is whether the sodas themselves contribute to metabolic syndrome risk or whether drinking them goes along with other dietary or lifestyle habits that increase the risk. Earlier Framingham findings have shown that drinking sodas contributes to obesity and insulin resistance among children and to high blood pressure among adults.

Based on what we know now, you've got to do more than just avoid drinking sodas to reduce your risk of metabolic syndrome. You've got to eat plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables, watch your intake of calories, make sure to exercise regularly, limit your salt intake and practice portion control. But the evidence that something in the soft drinks (whether it be the high fructose corn syrup, aspartame, caramel coloring or something else) may contribute to metabolic syndrome certainly makes me suspicious of them. I drank soda when I was growing up and through my university years. I never drink it now and haven't done so in a long time.

Andrew Weil, M.D.

Author: Broadway
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 9:14 am
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>>give me my Mt Dew

as my softdrink/back of the throat sting of choice but don't even drink even a couple of glasses a week.

Chris...water yes is best choice...something Hillary should of chosen?

Author: Darktemper
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 10:29 am
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The ice cubes are water aren't they? Sheeeeeeesh.

Author: Chris_taylor
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 11:05 am
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"Based on what we know now, you've got to do more than just avoid drinking sodas to reduce your risk of metabolic syndrome. You've got to eat plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables, watch your intake of calories, make sure to exercise regularly, limit your salt intake and practice portion control."

BINGO Deane!!

Like so many things in our lives it's all about choices. If people want to down a cold beer or have some wine, and I am one who used to do so, then I say go ahead. You're an adult.

Author: Darktemper
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 11:13 am
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Just down a Timberfake Bloody Mary. You get your celery, tomato juice, water (ice cubes), tabasco (helps clear the sinuses), and booze. Full meal deal!

Author: Mrs_merkin
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 12:00 pm
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By "Major Fun Sucker" I was referring to Broadway, not alcohol.

Author: Herb
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 12:06 pm
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Sounds like your buddy is booze, not the Bible.

For the record, I like 'em both.

Herb

Author: Missing_kskd
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 12:14 pm
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LOL!!!

That's pretty funny actually Herb.

I don't like either very much. Think about it. Consumed in large quantities, they both are very confusing. Makes for bad mornings too.\

Seriously, booze is not one of my faves. There are times and places when it makes sense. That's not too often and especially when something has gotta get done the next morning. Seems that getting enough to really feel it has too high of a cost for me.

So, it's a glass of good wine, or a mixed drink and that's it. No beer hardly at all. It's not worth it.



Author: Mrs_merkin
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 12:29 pm
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I probably drink less than Herb does...I have a good wine, champagne, port, or beer less than once a week...mixed drinks even less. Never at home, just when I'm out, which with a 2-year-old, isn't often lately. Do they even serve beer at OMSI? (ha!)

Author: Herb
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 12:49 pm
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'So, it's a glass of good wine...'

Me too.

And our Saviour turned water into wine.

Herb

Author: Darktemper
Monday, June 02, 2008 - 1:17 pm
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I only drink in St Louis!

Author: Broadway
Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 11:22 am
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>>I hate it when Moses shows up at Jake's

Let my people go!

Author: Mrs_merkin
Friday, June 06, 2008 - 5:27 am
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OK, that was funny.

Now, go where? To the bathroom?

Author: Broadway
Friday, June 06, 2008 - 6:37 am
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Of course to The Promise Land but wait we're all in radio in America...close...


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