Don't go there if you are offended by four-letter words.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/12/bill-oreilly-on-inside-ed_n_101267.html

Great stuff! Reminds of some old clips of the late NBC newscaster Jessica Savitch. Check out this gem.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GpVuxgSxFFE

Yeah, but she was probably on meds...or drunk...or both.

This is why I love radio. For the most part it's just you and no one else.

TV you have to depend on so many others who at any point can make you look bad.

Hee hee. Yep, that's billo alright. One of his frequent retorts at KATU was "I don't give a fu*k about <insert>"

Bookemdono: "she was probably on meds...or drunk...or both"

You mean like this?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0wYljtbA7hY

I didn't mean to hijack this thread...I do find the Savitch story tragic and sad. It is also a testament to the kind of pressure these performers are under.

Back to O'Reilly. The Inside Edition clip is from the early 90's, so this would have to have been after his KATU stint. Anybody on here work with him? Was he like that at KATU?

I was telling some of the younger folks today as we watched this clip that Billo worked as an anchor here in PDX, and they were amazed! I told them he had the same reputation as he displayed on that clip. That's what I've been told by folks in the know anyway.

"Anybody on here work with him? Was he like that at KATU?"

Go back 4 posts.

Keith Olbermann is doing this story on MSNBC tonight.

I saw Bill’s meltdown tonight on MSNBC. Frankly, his conduct shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone. Just watch him on television or listen to his radio program and you see and hear a very angry man who cares little about the facts and is routinely driven to inappropriate emotional outbursts. He has little interest in a thoughtful discussion of matters but rather enjoys interjecting his opinions which he claims are "the facts". And he is NEVER wrong.

While in Portland, I didn’t watch Bill O’Reilly much. But if I do recall, Willamette Week did a story that included him and his impact on the pay of anchors in the market, among other things. If memory serves, he left a portion of his payroll check in the copy machine where another Channel 2 employee found it. It made the rounds of the newsroom and Portland television news community in general. I think he was the highest paid personality in Portland during his tenure at Channel 2. But by learning what O’Reilly earned at Channel 2, it impacted the incomes of other anchors in the Portland market at the time.

Too bad he used a cuss word. Now he can't do or say anything worthy of consideration because of that.

Admittedly, only to me, but he sends out some INCREDIBLY interesting signals while on camera. The #1 vibe I get from him is " Not a good person." Sometimes it is what he says. But more often, it is how he carries himself. His mannerisms and body language. I even think that he physically, as in his bone structure and skin and facial expressions ( especially when he is just sitting there - listening ) belies some projections that are BIG red flags. For what it's worth, I felt this way WAY before any of his sexual scandals. There is an obvious deviant streak in him. Extremely kinky. The dude SCREAMS S & M, self-loathing with a big dose of anal fixation. He would probably say somthing like " I'm not gay. I just like to have sex with men. Old men." The years presenting himself as one way, but being so full of secrets like that really show, to me.

Between his eyes showing disdain for just about everyone and how he lights up when " interviewing " some pretty girl ( and those girls also tell quite a bit in their body language while in his presence; DANGER! Don't blow this guy off as harmless. He is VERY harmful ) - the guy is an absolute PERFECT representation of instinctual warning signs. Absolute perfection.

And I know this is painting with a VERY large brush stroke, but hearing people cite him as a source of genuine creddibility and moral compass makes perfect sense. They are people who LOVE to be led, but feel like they are actually in power. It's a huge turn-on for them. On very deep levels. There's a very " I look up to him being able to pull that stuff off without getting caught " thing going on with his followers. All that sinewy hand flapping, constantly scolding eyes and subtle smirking is very appealing to quite a few people who love to intermingle a seemingly truthful message with deep flaws.

That's my take.

The Billo clip is hilarious. Take out the F bombs and it's not too far from what his show is today.

Another morals preaching hypocrite cussing out his crew and acting like a 3 year old kid who just had his candy taken away. Nice example to set for the kids Bill!

Here is the classic:
Bill O'Reilly Shouts Down Al Franken
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpOSgT-osHk

Yup, my all time favorite. And at a convention for librarians, no less. Ha ha.

CJ, you are not the only one! He's broadcasting several distinct brands of asshole at the same time! Sometimes it's subtle. Most of the time it isn't and the entertainment is all about which flavor of the week he's going to project next!

I love the guy, because he's entertaining. Of course, I also don't think he's got any credence at all, and that's part of the fun. He projects that HUGE, while pulling stuff out of his ass!

There are gonna be some great videos from the old folks home! Bet he can deliver the Shut Up! line solid until he tips over.

It's unfair and a cheapshot to use an outtake against a broadcaster you don't like.

Here is a Casey Kasem outtake. Does it change your opinion of him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmuqdGvCxtA

"Here is a Casey Kasem outtake. Does it change your opinion of him?"

No.

And the clip of Billo didn't change my opinion of him either.

He was an asshole before, and he's still an asshole.

It is not unfair and it is not a cheap shot.

Broadcasters make their living on image. Their decorum and manner on the job extends to all functions, not just the "on the air" part. Broadcasters that project an image on the air that is more marketable is a requirement for advancement. However, acting like a spoiled child because one had not had a perfect day or there are factors beyond one's immediate control only makes the production effort more difficult. billo is an asshole on or off the air when he's in his work environment. My guess is that he is that way all the time. He has little respect (no matter what he might say when "on the air") nor concern for anyone other than himself, and I say that from personal experience working in the same station, not just from being nauseated by his demeanor on air. He would like to see himself as the bully journalist, but he is as phony as a 3 dollar bill.

re: The famous Kasey Kasem dead dog dedication. I never thought much of Kasey, a known anti-Semite whose past is not quite as squeaky clean as many think. The outtake smuggled out of the studio is famous, not just for content but for it revealing just how Kasey is just another spoiled entertainer who always blames everyone else, like billo, when things don't run smoothly.

There are many successful broadcasters whom are always pleasant to work with, have a great sense of humor that includes occasional self deprecation, lighthearted critique of the industry and no finger pointing at the crew when a "take" goes bad because they've overbooked themselves (billo).

Guys like billo and Kasey will ultimately get their just desserts in the long run.

No cheapshot. Not unfair. In short, fuck'em. They're assholes.

" It's unfair and a cheapshot to use an outtake against a broadcaster you don't like."

No it's not.

Cyrus Tsui, the former CEO of a company that I used to work for had a reputation for demeaning and attacking other senior managers at company meetings. Although I'm sure that he didn't intend for this conduct to be known beyond the closed doors of these high level management meetings, word got around the company. The abusive behavior of Kasey Kasem and Bill O'Reilly just seems a level more arrogant because they knew that it was being captured on tape, and they didn't seem to care. Taking it even a step further, Michael Savage once cussed out his board-op for incompetence, and the profanity went out over the air. There is no way that this kind of abusive conduct towards co-workers can be justified, whether it is in a private meeting, on tape, or on the air.

Casey Kasem doesn't go around all high and mighty while preaching moral and family values does he? Bill does, which makes him a hypocrite.

And while we're on the subject of hypocrites, do you DD also apply your same defense to Rev Wright like you do Billo?

I thought not, hypocrite.

I think that the industry should police their own. There are classic meltdowns from all sorts of media types. Howard Cosell generated a few doozies in his time too. The big difference between Cosell the pompous ass and O'Reilly the pompous ass is threefold. Howard had true talent, dedication to accuracy and a solid character. O'Reilly has none of that going for him. This is why the yellow coat is immortal, but Billo is just an cheerleader for masochists and fascists.

I celebrate it when somebody is outed as an asshole whether the whistle blower is an angry engineer or a big media peer. Three cheers for David Letterman. He said what needed to be said:

Part I
Part II

"And while we're on the subject of hypocrites, do you DD also apply your same defense to Rev Wright like you do Billo?"

I don't see the parallel between O'Reilly and Wright. There is no hypocrisy on my part.

Now look at Al Franken's meltdown. This isn't an outtake. Franken spoke in front of a live audience, which is a lot worse.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=s5byqTqyOr0

I don't think that anyone is saying that there never is cause to freak out about something. I just thought that Bill not knowing what " Play us out " means seemed like a small thing to freak out about.

Franken talking about something like politics, in front of a live audience, doesn't seem remotely similar to me. But you obviously worked hard to find something to try and compare it to ( because you just can't deal with it's own example ) so I'll say it; Franken was absolutely CRAZY to say what he did.

There.

I don't suppose you will say the same about O Reilly now?

He's got a grudge toward Franken ever since he got trounced on the Franken is a liar thread a long while back.

Invoking the two is just hilarious. Franken actually makes good money each time Billo decides to try and sue him! If Franken were that off base, that would not be the case.

I don't think this is a cheap shot at all. It's a nice indicator of the behind the facade persona.

The Billo clip is freaky! He's got major control issues and appears very insecure, which he battles by being very aggressive. It's as if he thinks everybody on that set is just not worth his time.

And that's being an asshole, plain and simple.

DD: If you're going to come, come strong. Otherwise, don't bother.

In your defense of Bill O'Reilly's outburst, you said:

"It's unfair and a cheap shot to use an outtake against a broadcaster you don't like."

So, are you also willing to give Rev Wright the same pass as O'Reilly? If O'Reilly is not deserving of judgment thanks to an "outtake", doesn't Rev Wright deserve the same? You were the first to hop on the Rev Wright scare campaign. Yet, you so easily defend O'Reilly. This makes you a Class A Hypocrite. It doesn't get any bolder than that simple description.

Primadonna is the word that describes these types of people.

I have a perverse curiosity whether NPR and PBS are somehow free of abusive people like these, or are they more careful about destroying the evidence? That Kasey Kasem clip was hilarious! "...you have me come out of an upbeat record and then I have to do a dedication for a fucking dog that died!!!"

Classic Digitaldexter move. Swoop in, drop a turd and swoop out.

I thought that was Herb's M.O. Wait...NM...Herb swoops in, drops a terd, and lingers to enjoy the smell!

There is no comparison between O'Reilly and Rev. Wright. Calling me names won't change that.

How about Billo video in German?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hun4ofBYSzc

LOL

As far as I know, Rev. Wright never went on tirades against staff members or volunteers at his church. Perhaps other people see these situations differently, but what see in common between all of the other examples listed so far is the cavalier treatment that a person with a bloated ego meted out to fellow staff members.

If you guys are so worried about the hypocrisy element of this, remember that these radio and TV personalities are playing to an audience. Is Howard Stern a hypocrite because his real-life lifestyle is nowhere near as wild as the persona that he projects on the air?

If you really want to burn all the hypocrites on the stake, then you you need to put me on that bonfire, guys! Why? Because I am the atheist who took the job at the Christian radio station. On several occasions, I had to give the pastors a line of BS about how I needed to find a church to join, but I was very busy with work and all. At least, I didn't molest anybody, unlike one of the pastors that I worked with.

DD, once again, you miss the point. I'm not comparing Billo to Rev Wright. I'm comparing the fact that you railed against Rev Wright for his comments, that are essentially 30 years of preaching boiled down to a few minutes of "outtakes", yet, you give Billo a pass for his outtake. If it's unfair to judge Billo, then it's unfair to judge Rev Wright.

DD is the definition of a Class A Hypocrite!

Two things need to be said:

First, for all of the compassion that is supposed to be exclusively "Christian" I find great heaps of irony in this forum. Alfredo_t was the only one to ask the hard questions about humanitarian efforts in Myanmar. Furthermore, his actions in this forum prove that his spiritual choice in no way dampens his desire to bring aid to the suffering. I respect his choice to be an atheist. His stance proves that dogma has far less to do with "good" than some of you folks think it does.

Second, I gave a challenge to every person here to read an entire sermon by Reverend Wright. Again, I find it interesting that non-believers have more perspective on a "man of God" than some of those who espouse their faith. So far, his loudest critics did not take that challenge, but still feel compelled to spout off about him. Either cowboy up, take the time and become familiar with the pastor, or shut up once and for all about it.

To return to topic, the fact remains that Bill O'Reilly is crazy.

Crazy O'Reilly makes this new top10 list:

http://gawker.com/390156/top-ten-angry-on+camera-meltdowns

I have a perverse curiosity whether NPR and PBS are somehow free of abusive people like these, or are they more careful about destroying the evidence?

I have personal experience with at least one of the folks in Public Broadcasting that has been lionized and coddled through a long career. After engineering an interview years ago, I can say without reservation that Dick Estell is an unrelenting pretentious asshole.

Still, to be fair to old Dick, Billo is in a league of his own.

And now, the Billo Dance Remix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2YDq6FkVE

Boy am I glad I went to the little boys room before watching that one. LOL

Holy cow, Billo outdid the South Park kids!

This is one of the top all-time links ever posted in PDXradio.com! Congrats to Amus.

ROFLMFAO

OK...
Now here is the producer's point of view...

You may have to scroll down for it as they add new videos.

http://www.barelypolitical.com/

I heard on MSNBC that Bill was trying to spin this tape in his favor. It’s kind of hard to make light of such bad behavior. But that’s nothing unusual for Bill O’Reilly. His whole shtick is yelling and screaming and telling lies and making half baked claims. It kind of like watching Morton Downey Jr. without the audience or a butt hanging out of his mouth. Pretty soon, Bill will claim to have been beaten up in an airport bathroom and blame Code Pink. Now that rant would make for entertaining television.

O'reilly may be an asshole in his personal life. He is clearly hot-tempered, and is probably a control freak. But to address the comparison between Rev. Right's remarks, and Bill's remarks, I'd have to say that they are not comparable. Rev. Right made insanely ridiculous accusations about the United States, and Bill O'reilly lost his temper and lashed out. The former has deep consequences when a candidate for President attended such sermons for 20 years, and the latter affected only the staff in the studio at the time of the outburst, without making any false claims or displaying any misguided ideology. The latter example is also not linked to a Presidential candidate.

When someone looses his cool, it's ugly and wrong. When someone makes detailed, false claims about America being responsible for AIDS (among other things), it becomes about the content of the comments, not about the ADDITUDE portrayed in the comments. I see that as a big difference.

DD's in clASSic form.

Come in take a dump and wait for someone to wipe his ass. Then take off. No questions answered and no substance left behind.... Not even any corn!

"false claims about America being responsible for AIDS"

You don't know that it's false. Unlikely? Yes.

At very least you can blame Reagan for not doing more to fight the spread of the disease in its early stages.

Re: The Rev. Right, has anyone considered the possibility that he was making use of HYPERBOLE?

"false claims about America being responsible for AIDS"

How on earth could anybody suspect that the Government could ever experiment with STD's on race?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

Tadc,
For such a claim, the burden of proof is on Rev. Right, not on people like me who doubt the claim.