McCain slips up?

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Author: Trixter
Friday, May 02, 2008 - 5:57 pm
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Is McCain's slip of the tongue going to cost him?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24434071

Author: Mc74
Friday, May 02, 2008 - 6:05 pm
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Cost him what? Ya dont really think he has a chance to win do you?

He would be a great President but at this time in history it will just not happen.

Author: Trixter
Friday, May 02, 2008 - 6:06 pm
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:-)

Author: Chickenjuggler
Friday, May 02, 2008 - 7:02 pm
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" Republican John McCain was forced to clarify his comments Friday suggesting the Iraq war involved U.S. reliance on foreign oil. He said he was talking about the first Gulf War and not the current conflict."

First of all, I do not believe him.

Secondly " My friends... " I swear that someone has told him that it " tests " well to keep saying that. My friends. But it has the opposite effect on me. I know it's petty and relatively insignificant, but I try and pay attention to words and phrases like that when they come from a candidate. I get a very Martin Sheen vibe from The Dead Zone from him already - the " my friends " stuff just creeps me out. It's hard to explain, but there is something in his delivery that is very unconvincing when he tries to convince me that everyone he is speaking to is a friend. Grow up and quit pandering to the retards.

I also happen to think, if left to run a campaign on what he actually believes and speak how he wants to really speak - even at the risk of being viewed as terse or something less than warm - he would be raise the level of voters' engagement. He's very lukewarm and maliable to his party. I get the feeling that he wishes he was not saddled with trying to rally Republicans. I think he wants to show that deep down, he is a man of the people. But if he loses ( because NOTHING is for certain ), he'll blame poor advisors and speech writers and handlers. Which, in a way, is a golden oppotunity missed - yet again; People are much more hypersensitive to bullshit right now. Had he followed his gut, instead of being short sighted about gas tax bullshit, quick fixes ( Iraq excluded ), eberything will be just fine, rhetoric - something even MILDLY inspiring - I would give him a better chance in the general election. Right now though, I don't feel that way about him.

I'm wrong a lot though and I've been drinking. So, you know, I've got that going for me.

Author: Aok
Friday, May 02, 2008 - 7:36 pm
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Um yeah, I do think he has a chance to win, that's the scary part. There's just too many security nuts who are scared of something but don't really know what it is and they can vote.

Author: Chickenjuggler
Friday, May 02, 2008 - 7:38 pm
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The bar has been set SO low though. Call me a Bush Basher - I do not care. I temper most of my posts with that kind of stuff. But it's noted just this one time.

Author: Andrew2
Friday, May 02, 2008 - 7:56 pm
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McCain DEFINITELY has a chance to win. The same sleaze machine that slimed John Kerry - the Swift Boat Liars - and also went after the Clintons in the 90s will be out in force this general election season, going after Hillary or (probably) Obama with all kinds of nasty crap. It's a long way til the general election. Lots of things could still happen.

Andrew

Author: Andrew2
Friday, May 02, 2008 - 7:59 pm
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As for McCain's "clarification" it's obviously BS. No one is seriously worried in 2008 about a repeat of a US military action from 17 years ago. I'm surprised he didn't say he was really talking about the Barbary Pirate wars of the 1780s...

Andrew

Author: Listenerpete
Friday, May 02, 2008 - 8:36 pm
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His clarification is BS, here is what he said and it's quite clear he wasn't talking about the Gulf War. The YouTube video follows:


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Senator Obama and Senator Clinton want to set a date for withdraw. That's what they want to do is get everybody out. I believe that would lead to catastrophe and chaos and that we would have the whole region including the whole region and the country in such turmoil that we would be required to come back to the region. And I just want to promise you this. My friends, I will have an energy policy that we will be talking about, which will eliminate our dependence on oil from the Middle East that will - that will then prevent us - that will prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OosJv79BgLs

Author: Talpdx
Friday, May 02, 2008 - 9:06 pm
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It’s always been about oil. What sort of relationship would we have with the Middle East if they had no oil? Hardly any. But you can bet that if say Antarctica were a major exporter of oil to the United States, every US Administration since Franklin Roosevelt would have been paying Antarctica ample homage.

Like money is the mother’s milk of politics, cheap oil is the mother’s milk to a success economy. But the days of cheap oil are over. How then will we transition out of the cycle of dependence? Well, it’ll be interesting to see.

Whether John McCain wants to admit it or not, oil played a part in the invasion of Iraq. It would be disingenuous to say otherwise. It’s just sad when you think about it. Nearly every president during my lifetime has warned of our overdependence on Middle East oil, but only Jimmy Carter tried to do something tangible about it. And when he did, it fell on deaf ears. A man before his time.

Author: Chris_taylor
Friday, May 02, 2008 - 9:57 pm
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I am one who is certainly not taking anything for granted these days. Not after the past two presidential elections that proved any moron can get elected.

Author: Brianl
Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 10:44 am
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" Republican John McCain was forced to clarify his comments Friday suggesting the Iraq war involved U.S. reliance on foreign oil. He said he was talking about the first Gulf War and not the current conflict."

He got that backwards. Desert Storm was a UN action with the specific purpose of getting Saddam out of Kuwait. It worked, they packed up, and went home.

If this is his recollection of recent history, this could be dangerous.

Author: Vitalogy
Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 3:51 pm
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It's just another one of his "senior moments" and another reason not to vote for him and his doubletalk express.

Author: Trixter
Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 11:09 am
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Doubletalk

code for neo-CON conversation


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