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I think not!

How ridiculous can you get!

What do to you mean Deane_johnson?

Do you support such treatment of those women?

"Do you support such treatment of those women?"

Of course not. But, we went to Afghanistan to wipe out the Taliban and end their training grounds for terrorists, not to free a bunch of women. The fact that some have better lives now was simply an outgrowth of the elimination of the Taliban.

The fact that this is going on has nothing to do with the war we waged.

So, what sets the current Afghanistan leaders different from the Taliban, if they are doing the same to the women?

Oh, God, I really tried, but I can't stay away from neocon idiot Deane.

Captain, I join you is wondering why he thinks it is OK to turn a blind eye toward how women are being treated after we sent troops them to change their lives for the better.

"So, what sets the current Afghanistan leaders different from the Taliban, if they are doing the same to the women?"

"Captain, I join you is wondering why he thinks it is OK to turn a blind eye toward how women are being treated after we sent troops them to change their lives for the better."


I sincerely hope you guys are just pretending to be stupid and are not really this bad, or you're just having some fun.

Watch my lips. We didn't go to Afghanistan to free any women. We went there to wipe out the Taliban who were providing training camps and safe haven for terrorists. It was al Qaeda's base of operations. What's so hard about understanding that. I'd like to simplify it for you, but I don't know how.

Once more, we didn't go there to free women, any gains they made were a side benefit. We aren't going to be able to free all the Muslim women from the idiots that control them. If the Arabs want their women to walk around with sacks on their heads, that's not our problem or business. If they want them to stay home and be uneducated, that's not our business.

Is there a way to make this simple enough for you two to understand?

Yep, not or problem or business, just like Darfur.

Darfur isn't our problem. But, I think it's the World's problem. The UN should be dealing with it, not the US. We can't walk in like John Wayne and solve every social injustice in the world. There are just too many.

I think the way the Muslims treat their women is despicable, but it's not for us to solve. It's their religion, not ours.

But, Shrub said this war effort was designed to bring democracy to those countries. The Taliban did not bomb the World Trade Center. The majority of the bombing idiots were Saudis, the "friendly" country that has supplied the Bush family and friends with millions of dollars.

The U.N. is in charge of the war in Afghanistan.

"But, Shrub said this war effort was designed to bring democracy to those countries."

No he didn't, assuming you're referring to the President of the United States. Democracy was never mentioned as a reason to invade Afghanistan. It was strictly the terrorists training camps and safe haven issues. Attempting to get them into a Democracy came later. They had to have some form of government, why not a Democracy.

"They had to have some form of government, why not a Democracy."

But it is not a democracy when women can be sent to prison for being rape victims.

I am all for spreading democracy as the way to have a government, but with that spreading comes responsibility to ensure it is done right. While we are still at war in Afghanistan, we are responsible for what happens to the people of Afghanistan.

I thought we were at war with Iraq. When did we invade Afghanistan? Was that operation "Blundering Idiot II"?

"we are responsible for what happens to the people of Afghanistan."

No, their elected government is. And, if you want some outside intervention in these things, the UN is now in charge (see your earlier post). You can write to the Secretary General with your suggestions.

"I thought we were at war with Iraq. When did we invade Afghanistan? Was that operation "Blundering Idiot II"?"

This entire thread has to be a put-on. But, in case the stuff has completely fried your brain (no other possible explanation), we did Afghanistan before Iraq. I know, you and Indiana Jones were on assignment in the Amazon and you missed that little Afghanistan thing.

The UN is but a puppet of the Bush administration, as is the so-called elected government, and until the war is declared over and won, the U.S. has a responsibility to protect the Afghanies. Plus, bush has done nothing to stop the heroin poppie plants from being grown.

"The UN is but a puppet of the Bush administration"

That's a little hard to believe when you consider the UN won't do anything we want them to.

Besides, if Bush sent the troops in to slap these judges around, you'd be pissing and moaning that he was meddling.

I trust you realize you liberals are pre-ordained to criticize everything anyone other than what the radical leftists do.

Deane, are you the Deane from deanejohnson.net/audio

If so, I have to commend your voice.

'Tis I.

Damn, now you went and said something nice about me and I'll have to start being nicer to you.

Well, I now have to apologize for everything bad I ever said about you, as I respect my elders, especially ones who have given so much to the radio community. Plus now knowing the generation you are a part of, I understand all of your views. I would be more conservative now if I were a young broadcaster in the early 60s too. PS, love your Web site.

" "The UN is but a puppet of the Bush administration" "

"That's a little hard to believe when you consider the UN won't do anything we want them to."

I have to agree with Deane on this one. The U.N. has rarely done what any U.S. president wants. This has been elevated to a new plane of disfunction under the shrub's regime.

"Besides, if Bush sent the troops in to slap these judges around, you'd be pissing and moaning that he was meddling."

Bush HAS passed up so many golden opportunities to have at his disposal the 2nd largest peace keeping force on the planet, but that is not anyone's fault but the shrub himself. Cowboy diplomacy at work. Bush does not work well with most foreign leaders let alone the U.N. His lack of language skills really hurt him there. His performance internationally is considered by many scholars as the worst of any U.S. president in centuries.

"I trust you realize you liberals are pre-ordained to criticize everything anyone other than what the radical leftists do."

Now that's just a bunch of dog shit Deane. If anyone is pre programmed on issues it is the right wing extremists who just don't seem to grasp their fascist underpinnings.

I don't think you really understand what "radical" means, Deane.

Thanks Radioblogman. Like many others from eras gone by, I had a number of tapes and air checks in the basement rotting away. I decided they be posted on a web site for others to hear. Since many of them were my air checks, I ended up sort of dominating the site, though I would have preferred it be different.

I also have have web site of photographs from a number of stations from the same era.

http://www.pbase.com/deanej/radio_station_gallery

Those old consoles and reel to reels remind me of my first gigs as a DJ. I remember those old RCA reel to reels had unreliable brakes and if you didn't pay attention to what you were doing you'd end up with 300 feet of tape on the floor.

Andy, are you sure you're seeing any RCA reel to reels. I think everything is Ampex, except some Magnecords at KOOO.

I should clarify ... the Ampex pics remind me of the RCA vertical rack mount only that I believe is older than those Ampex rigs. They were heavy as lead and would open like a mailbox door for maintenance. They were truly ancient. Where I worked that had them, they were used for backup playback since we had two Revox reel to reels, one in the CR and one in the PR for most of our work.

I can't seem to find a pic of the old RCA's. I believe they were vintage 1950's. Ugly, mono, never seen one since.

RCA tape machines, be it reel to reel or cart were the worst garbage on the planet. When I worked for NBC I demanded ATC (hot item at the time) instead of RCA. This created a situation that was extremely tense since RCA owned NBC. I finally won, but ATC had to sign an agreement not to tell anyone and especially not use the situation in any advertising.

How ridiculous can you get!

Almost as ridiculous as you

I know you are but what am I?

Sticks and Stones..

Won't break my bones...

Too much broccoli.