1) Who do you believe will win the Democratic nomination for president in 2008?
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton

2) What is your opinion of Hillary Clinton?
Favorable
Unfavorable

3) In a race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton

4) Who did you vote for in the 2004 election?
Bush
Kerry
Other

5) If the election is between John McCain and Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?
John McCain
Hillary Clinton
Other

6) If the election is between John McCain and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?
John McCain
Barack Obama
Other

1.) Obama
2.) Unfavorable
3.) Obama
4.) Bush
5.) Other
6.) Obama

1. Obama, unless he does something really stupid.

2. Unfavorable, but better than McCain.

3. Obama

4. Kerry (dammit)

5. Clinton

I can no longer afford to vote Republican.

6. Obama


Dark, your answers are proving to be more typical than mine are. IMHO, the biggest reason Clinton needs to step down.

1. Obama

2. VERY unfavorable

3. Obama

4. Kerry

5. Neither (I cannot support either one)

6. Obama

1) Who do you believe will win the Democratic nomination for president in 2008?

Obama

2) What is your opinion of Hillary Clinton?

Favorable

3) In a race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?

Undecided (leaning Obama)

4) Who did you vote for in the 2004 election?

Kerry

5) If the election is between John McCain and Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?

Clinton

6) If the election is between John McCain and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?

Obama

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Andrew

Cut and paste Missing's answers for mine. (except the part about ever voting Republican).

Last Republican I voted for was Mark Hatfield.

1) Who do you believe will win the Democratic nomination for president in 2008?

Barack Obama


2) What is your opinion of Hillary Clinton?

Unfavorable


3) In a race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?

Barack Obama


4) Who did you vote for in the 2004 election?

President Bush


5) If the election is between John McCain and Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?

John McCain


6) If the election is between John McCain and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?

John McCain

1) Who do you believe will win the Democratic nomination for president in 2008?
Barack Obama

2) What is your opinion of Hillary Clinton?
Unfavorable (about her campaign; indifferent about her)

3) In a race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama

4) Who did you vote for in the 2004 election?
Kerry

5) If the election is between John McCain and Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?
Hillary Clinton

6) If the election is between John McCain and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama

Bonus Question
7) If Hillary Clinton pulls a "Lieberman" and runs as an independent after losing the Dem nomination, who would you vote for in Nov.?
McCain
Obama
Clinton
Nader
Paulson

Bonus Question
7) If Hillary Clinton pulls a "Lieberman" and runs as an independent after losing the Dem nomination, who would you vote for in Nov.?

McCain

1) Who do you believe will win the Democratic nomination for president in 2008?

Obama

2) What is your opinion of Hillary Clinton?

Favorable

3) In a race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?

Obama

4) Who did you vote for in the 2004 election?

Kerry

5) If the election is between John McCain and Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?

Clinton

6) If the election is between John McCain and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?

Obama

1) Who do you believe will win the Democratic nomination for president in 2008?

Barack Obama

2) What is your opinion of Hillary Clinton?

Unfavorable. I'll leave it at that.

3) In a race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?

Neither. I'd rather waste my vote with a write in for a cartoon character.

4) Who did you vote for in the 2004 election?

Bush

5) If the election is between John McCain and Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?

John McCain

Personal Note: I'd write in Mickey Mouse before I'd ever vote for her. (see 2 posts above)

6) If the election is between John McCain and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?

John McCain

7) If Hillary Clinton pulls a "Lieberman" and runs as an independent after losing the Dem nomination, who would you vote for in Nov.?

McCain

There are no Democrat candidates that I would vote for. None that I have ever seen support the same ideas/ideals that I have or believe in.

Skybill, just curiuos here. Do you believe that the US is headed in the right direction under Bush and GOP leadership? Are we better off now than we were 7 years ago, as a country? Has Bush and the GOP leadership done a good job in your view?

Earth to Vitalogy, earth to Vitalogy. Flash. Bush aint running. McCain ain't Bush. Come in Vitalogy....are you there.

"McCain ain't Bush"

and okra is not mozuku, but they're both slimy vegetables I don't like.

McCain economic plan: do nothing except keep the tax cuts for the wealthy individuals and corporations (same as Bush)
McCain Iraq plan: stay stay stay the course (same as Bush)

Explain how McCain is different than Bush on any significant issue.

McCain certainly is Bush. Same war, same economy, same conservative judges, same political platform. Bush has endorsed McCain, and McCain represents the same party as Bush. They are WAY more the same than they are different.

So, it stands to reason that if you are happy with the state we are in today under Bush and GOP leadership, you'd vote McCain to continue on the path we are currently on, right?

BS

Yes, mine's in EE. What's yours in?

"BS".

Yep, that's the kind of response I expect when someone can't back up their point.

I've always felt that while Bush has handled things poorly ( and I'm just going to speak " understated " about this ) we could have done a LOT worse. Not in the sense that " Oh, I wish a different republican candidate would have won." No. Not like that. I truly believe that if Bush had been smarter, he would have executed policies that caused us even more harm that he's already done.

Think about this for a second - What if Bush had policies that he wanted to promote and was able to do it in a way that wasn't so transparently laughable?

I'm still not articulating this properly.

Imagine Bush having the drive, ambition and mental ability of McCain - or Romney. Sometimes I think that only thing that prevented us from being in a full-on nuclear war with someone at this point was not lack of desire, it was Bush's inability to get the support he wanted because he is viewed as mildly retarded from the rest of the world and within his own country. Imagine where we could be if someone with a truly sinister desire wanted to control the button. Or further an agenda that was God-based. Yes, things are not good. But man, if someone was smarter and more secretive and had more people fooled, they would have gotten a lot further. Fortuantely, for us, while there has been damage done, we see it for what it is because Bush was unable to execute anything properly and hasn't been trusted to do anything well for years now.

We got a little lucky to have him at the helm as not to make things worse. And as much as I cannot stand what Bush has done, I admit, it could have been worse.

Fortunatley, we don't have to hold up to that standard this time.

I feel positive for America for the first time in a long time. And it's PURELY because I know Bush's reign will be ending. The guy freaks my shit out and I want him to sit on his hands until he leaves. Don't touch anything. Please.

A 2006 poll among British voters indicated they see George Bush as a greater danger to world peace than either the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-il, or the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Both countries were once cited by the US president as part of an "axis of evil", but it is Mr Bush who now alarms voters in countries with traditionally strong links to the US.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/nov/03/terrorism.northkorea

McCain is now trying to distance himself from W by coming out quite critically about the handling of Katrina by local, state and especially the Federal govt. He says had he been president, he would of landed at the nearest base to assess the damage and I guess get everyone back on track for a recovery.

But wait, while it was happening, he voted AGAINST emergency assistance for the gulf coast region following hurricane Katrina.

Right. I mean, there it is; Everyone sees it. This is yet another reason why voting Democrat will be better. I'm doing it for my own reasons. But it's cool to have a side-effect be " We fixed something that we know was wrong. See? Amercians aren't ALWAYS stupid."

"McCain Iraq plan: stay stay stay the course (same as Bush)"

Don't forget "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran"

McCain is a feeble old wingnut.

Bush is hardly a dummy. He knew exactly what he was doing. He hired a really smart guy, Rove, to do his political bidding and a shrewd Washington operator, Cheney, to control the government. So what's the difference? Bush got away with whatever he could, which was a hell of a lot. He managed to get huge tax cuts for the wealthy, a huge military build-up, and two young, healthy conservative supreme court justices (a gain of one). This is all stuff he promised to do for his base.

I honestly don't think we could have done much worse than Bush. In some ways worse would have been "better" because then that president may actually have been impeached. But Bush got away with it because he and Cheney never crossed the line like Nixon did to allow his own party in the Congress to abandon him. A "worse" president would have done less damage because he would have been removed.

It's hard for me to feel optimistic about the future of our country right now. We have an escalating energy crisis (to which no political leader has yet offered a solution), where more and more of our products are built overseas, where more and more of our energy comes from overseas, where our national debt and trade deficit continue to skyrocket while the value of a US dollar continues to fall. Health care costs continue to soar. Not to mention that we have thousands of troops stuck in Iraq and Afghanistan and a military that is being stretched to the breaking point and will take a long time to fix.

America is still the best country on earth but that that doesn't make me optimistic about our future.

Andrew

Well put Andrew.

He hired a really smart guy, Rove, to do his political bidding and a shrewd Washington operator, Cheney, to control the government.

Daddy and the higher ups had a lot to do with this.... Don't kid yourself.

"Bush is hardly a dummy."

With all due respect Andrew ... I do like you.

Fair enough Andrew and Vit.

I didn't exactly present my case very well. You get my points and disagree. Good enough for me today. I don't have the inclination to try and convince you - the result is kind of the same on too many points to quibble about the details. Of which you noted and I can't really disagree.

1) Barack Obama


2) Unfavorable

3) Hillary Clinton

4) Bush




5) John McCain


6) John McCain

Skybill, just curiuos here. Do you believe that the US is headed in the right direction under Bush and GOP leadership? Are we better off now than we were 7 years ago, as a country? Has Bush and the GOP leadership done a good job in your view?

Yes and No.

By all means, please don't think that I like 100% of what Bush has done.

Some things I like, some I don't.

I supported going into Iraq in the first place. Shock and Awe was a good thing. But now I think it's being drug out too long and they need to push harder for the Iraqi government to start bucking up and taking over until we can pull our guys out. We'll probably have to leave some forces there for support and as advisors and I'm OK with that.

I don't like the "No Child Left Behind" program. It makes lots of mandates on school districts and does not fund the mandates.

The economy has its good and bads. I don't think it can be blamed entirely on the President. Greedy mortgage brokers have a lot to do with it.

We could go on and on but we all have our own feelings on how things are. There are lots of things I’d like to see changed.

I really don't like ANY of the candidates. As I have said before, I truly believe that we won't be picking the best person for the country; we are going to pick the one that is the least bad.

"Greedy mortgage brokers have a lot to do with it."

Mortgage brokers have very little to do with the economy. If anything, it was the Federal Reserve lowering interest rates so far down that spurred the sub prime lending fiasco, along with greedy Wall St. investors who were willing to fund loans and sell the "crap" paper to other investors hungry for yield.

Overall, our economy is struggling because our GOP driven economic policies have left out the middle class. With tax cuts going to the wealthy while services get cut, inflation going up, and flat wage growth, most of America is tapped out. But, those at the top have fared very well. Instead of high tide raising everyone's ships, high tide has swamped ships and flooded the mainland. The wealthy are laughing all the way to the bank while they look on from up the hill.

I guess the overall point of my question to you is that I think any objective person could come to the conclusion that things have not gone well for America under GOP leadership the last 7 years, so why would you favor continuing the status quo? If a Democrat has fucked up as bad as Bush has while a Democratic Congress sat on their hands the entire time, I'd be voting for the Republican even though I may not agree with all of their stances.

Fun questions! Let's give it a shot:

1) Who do you believe will win the Democratic nomination for president in 2008?
Barack Obama. I hope so, anyway. He could be a once-in-a-lifetime, transformative leader. He could bring us together as a nation, and man, do we need it. He's a gift. I hope we're smart enough to accept it.


2) What is your opinion of Hillary Clinton?
Very favorable, to my surprise. She's hard on the ears, but she's a fighter. She's got bigger balls than anyone in there. She'd make a hell of a President.


3) In a race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama


4) Who did you vote for in the 2004 election?
Kerry, as a way of voting no on W. Weak candidate, though. Bad job by the Dems. Again.


5) If the election is between John McCain and Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?

Hillary Clinton


6) If the election is between John McCain and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?

Barack Obama. But unlike many Dems I'd be OK with McCain. He's honest and smart. All three of these candidates represent a vast improvement over the past eight years, which have been tragically disastrous. I see an Obama presidency as an antidote to the cynicism and mutual hatred that now infests our country. But Hillary and McCain have the same capacity to prove that the United States government need not be secretive, unaccountable, and incompetent, as it's been under Bush. Nice guy, but not up to the job--by far.

Bottom line: no matter who wins, better days are coming. This is one election when we have some pretty good candidates. For a change.

1) Who do you believe will win the Democratic nomination for president in 2008?
The filthy-stinking rich. What, someone thought that regular folks will somehow win the election by voting for one of these? Yeah, right!

2) What is your opinion of Hillary Clinton?
Unfavorable. I'll add that my opinion of Obama and McCain is also "unfavorable!"

3) In a race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?
Neither - I'm non-partisan. I don't vote in party primaries, and don't know that I care to any longer.

4) Who did you vote for in the 2004 election?
Kerry

5) If the election is between John McCain and Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?
Other

6) If the election is between John McCain and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?
Other

7) If Hillary Clinton pulls a "Lieberman" and runs as an independent after losing the Dem nomination, who would you vote for in Nov.?
Other

1. Barack Obama
2. Favorable
3. Hillary Rodham Clinton
4. John Kerry
5. Hillary Rodham Clinton
6. Barack Obama

Ill just save my self alot of time and tell you all I am voting for McCain.

Obabma does not impress me. All he has to offer is being something a bit different (aka black) If he was white nobody would care.

1)Barack Obama
2)Unfavorable
3)Barack Obama
4)John Kerry
5)Candidates for the United States congress, state and local ballot measures, state legislators, county commissioners, city council members and a mayoral candidate.
6)Barack Obama
7)Barack Obama

1) Who do you believe will win the Democratic nomination for president in 2008?

obama


2) What is your opinion of Hillary Clinton?

Favorable.


3) In a race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?


Hillary Clinton

4) Who did you vote for in the 2004 election?


Kerry


5) If the election is between John McCain and Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?


Hillary Clinton


6) If the election is between John McCain and Barack Obama, who would you vote for?


Barack Obama


Bonus question:

Portland Mayor?

Sam Adams.

Oh, no way!

Sho for sure.

This election is significant as a lot of city planning, that will impact PDX for a longer period of time is going to occur during the term. Better have a Democrat do that.

Sam Adams is a Republican?

Also voting for Sho.

I went to look this up. Now I don't know!

You DO know he was Vera Katz's chief of staff and that gay Republicans generally don't come out of the closet? Hmm?

Yeah, I could be hosed on that one.

Somebody that was supporting Sho said that, and I bought it. Probably a mistake.

Still, I think Sho is the better Mayor.