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Author: Deane_johnson
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:33 am
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Finally, the proof is in. The Iraq war was a super success.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article3802051.ece

Now, the Iraqis will have there own Disneyland theme park in Baghdad. What more could they want from life?

The only thing left for them to want would be some computer generated voice tracked radio stations (sorry Chris). Then they'd have it all.

Author: Vitalogy
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:47 am
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"Mr Werner will retain exclusive rights to housing and hotel developments, which he says will be both “culturally sensitive” and enormously profitable — “I wouldn’t be doing this if I wasn’t making money,” he said."

Of course. This is the same reason why the GOP wants to continue our occupation, so more people like Mr. Werner can make enourmous amounts of money at the expense of US taxpayers.

Author: Missing_kskd
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:38 pm
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I don't even know where to start!

Fuck it. Let's just go here:

The theme park structure is being built to help create the perception that the war is a success, and to help build support for our efforts and finally, for the dollars to be made in building it.

While there remains no real cohesive government, ( and if you don't agree with that, please detail for me how the Iraq government is currently structured, where it's authority comes from and how legislation is passed) we've ZERO success there.

Author: Andy_brown
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:44 pm
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The Iraq war is a success for the military industrial complex and the war hawks. Oh, and Gen. Petraeus just got a promotion, so I guess it's a success for him as well.

Unfortunately, it is not a success for its founder, George Bush.
It is a stain he will never wash out. Never.

Author: Deane_johnson
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:44 pm
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"The theme park structure is being built to help create the perception that the war is a success, and to help build support for our efforts and finally, for the dollars to be made in building it."


Missing, this is where you go off the deep end of Bush hating liberalism that has no roots in reality.

The theme park is being built with private funds by someone who see a chance to make a bunch of money. It's called entrepreneurialism and risk taking. That would be sort of the opposite of the liberal viewpoint of government redistribution of wealth while the lazy sit on their hands and wait for the government to hand it to them.

Author: Chickenjuggler
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:52 pm
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" Finally, the proof is in. The Iraq war was a super success. "

Awesome. So can everyone come home now?

Author: Missing_kskd
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:56 pm
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I don't hate Bush.

I really do hate what he, and other Republicans, have done with the place.

I don't have a problem with the guy seeing a chance to make his money. More power to him! What I do have a problem with is that effort being linked to the war being "success beyond wildest dreams."

It isn't a success yet. That's reality.

And, by the way, a business man that has to depend on our dollars and lives to keep the area clear for his theme park is receiving a HUGE ass subsidy. That's a net loss in that if we were not giving him that support, it's very highly likely that it would not be worth trying to build that park.

So, that's a hand out and I hate handouts.

If somebody is going to run a business and make the money, particularly with things like secured rights, then they really need to carry their own weight, or the whole effort only benefits them and not those they are mooching off of to make a go of it.

Again, I don't hate Bush and I am absolutely not off the deep end.

I am all about rational gains made in rational ways. This whole boondoggle is neither.

Author: Andy_brown
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:57 pm
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Actually Dean, it is not entrepreneurial until its a reality. While it is just an agreement on a plan, it's speculative. The area is without the infrastructure to construct let alone operate. So in that sense, it is just about perception. Big plans like this can't happen until there is 24/7 peace and power, and you know it.

Now, let's follow the money and find out whom is really making the financial commitment. Money made off the war no doubt.

Author: Deane_johnson
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:58 pm
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Missing, the "success beyond wildest dreams" was humor. Think about it. First shock and awe while we blew the place to kingdom come, and now it's Disneyland. How much more success could you have? Lighten up.

Author: Deane_johnson
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:59 pm
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"Money made off the war no doubt."

You have any evidence whatsoever of that?

Author: Missing_kskd
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 1:01 pm
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I still think it's shit.

I think this, largely because it just isn't Disneyland yet, and we are going to have to subsidize that guy and won't see a chunk of the returns.

Leech.

Let him build it and defend it, then profit from it; otherwise, he really should be sharing that action, or it's just a handout.

Sorry.

Author: Vitalogy
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 1:57 pm
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"The theme park is being built with private funds by someone who see a chance to make a bunch of money. It's called entrepreneurialism and risk taking."

BS, it's called a handout from US taxpayers unless this guy is going to kick us some money for the security effort necessary to allow him to take his "risks".

Author: Trixter
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 1:59 pm
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Finally, the proof is in. The Iraq war was a super success.

So YOUR moving there soon DJ???


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