Since the discussion about this is running wild on two other threads, why not make a new one dedicated specifically to the topic?

Just one former salesguy's opinion, but this sports format has the potential to be Portland's first true sports station. If they do indeed air Blazers, Ducks, Seahawks, ESPN, Rome and Westwood One events, it could sound like what a sports station is supposed to be. Tim McNamara wouldn't make this change if he didn't think it could very well.

On the flip side, although I don't listen to 95.5, it will be sad to see another music station with all live jocks go away.

The Jammin' format will move to 1075.

Since The Fan is an ESPN affiliate, could another station in the same market also carry ESPN programing?

no...KFXX would likely have an exclusive, but every contract can be bought out or cancelled, and i think if ESPN thought they could make more and get better ratings at 95.5, they might make the jump like Jim Rome already has.

Why would the jammin format move to 1075 when its not working on 95.5???? Im just wondering why their is such a decline in listeners on that station. Is the Hip hop coming out CRAP and nobody is liking it or what??? That station was such a power house when it first came on the air, Im really surprised that it is doing that bad. I thought there was a market for this kind of music??? Where are all the suburban white boys that love this music??

i think its a matter of what isnt success anymore for Rose City, is more success than 107.5 has seen in 5 years...

Well, I wonder what our old....well, co-user, Fresh would tink bout dat?

"Is the Hip hop coming out CRAP and nobody is liking it or what???"

Yes.

"Where are all the suburban white boys that love this music??"

Well, of those that I know personally they have grown up and moved on to stuff that actually *is* music, not a perjorative of the term as Hiphop would happen to be. I can't speak for the entire sub-sector of the population as described, of course; only those in that sub-sub-sector that I know personally as I was one myself.

I just heard Jammin' recently (about six hours' worth at work before I finally took over control of the radio and switched it to 89.9) and all I could say about it is, "Jeez, it's no wonder this is one of the lowest-rated stations in the market."

In all liklihood, I think an all-sport format on KXJM would be a HUGE improvement over its current offering.

(Hey--even better yet, put an EZL format on 95.5! ;o)

With regards to CHR in Portland- mainstream and rhythmic...could it be the decline in numbers over the years is partly or more to do with Arbitron not getting enough diaries into the hands of more 18-34's in general??

WTF???? They could get better ratings by running the 750 news/talk format on 95.5 than they could with sports talk. This is insane!

Maybe not. They'd have a virtual monopoly on play-by-play...and if they grab Rome, and bring Canzano farther along on the radio learning curve, they'd be the A-team sports station in the market. The overall market share might stay where it is for 95.5 (currently 2.7), but the demographics would be immeasurably more saleable.

More new formats for radio stations to try:
American Idol Radio,
News-Joke,
commercial free music
bicycle traffic reports

cancle the jammin formst!!!!

They're down because they are not relating to the market. They've been targeting hispanics yet not being involved in the hispanic community. They've lost their identity. It no longer feels like 'my' station.

American Idol radio is on it's way with Seacrest's show becoming a syndicated broadcast! Coming soon to a Clear Channel station in your area!

http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=449d2893-f262-482d-afa1-5aaa4 849ab38

I can see the bicycle traffic as pretty soon it will be to damn expensive for the chopper to leave the ground! Picture a guy in the studio, background helicopter noise, doing the traffic, suddenly in mid report the chopper noise quits, what does he do? Freak out and tell everyone the chopper quit while trying frantically to get it back on, tell the listeners they just went into whisper mode due to city ordinances, or just keep reporting hoping the listeners don't notice?

Why even report the traffic in Portland except when there is an accident? I mean it's pretty much the same day in day out. In from Vancouver backed up to main street and heavy through Delta Park, Heavy on the Sunset from the Zoo through the tunnel, slow on 217 starting at greenburg rd, 20 minute commute from I-205 to I-5, and slow traffic from the curves to the coliseum exit.

Jammin' is in trouble cause they are, Coastin' rather than Jammin'!

And, as I keep sayin', they're doin' the wrong version of Rhythm Crossover.

Check out KUBE in Seattle or WiLD in San Francisco, our closest major markets. Hip Hop is ALIVE, it's just not bein' pulled off that well in Stumptown!

With regards to CHR in Portland- mainstream and rhythmic...could it be the decline in numbers over the years is partly or more to do with Arbitron not getting enough diaries into the hands of more 18-34's in general??

Author: Alfredo_t

OR maybe the music is CRAP and nobody is listening to it.

Alfredo speaks the TRUTH!

....and what about the Playhouse? Bahhhh Bye? Or does the true star of the Playhouse(P.K.)go on to bigger things???

Who says that 107.5 is flipping to Rhythmic CHR?

Jammin' 95.5 has certainly gone down hill in recent years, which is why I now prefer listening to 94-9 Jamz. It's really too bad that 94.9 discontinued their internet stream.

Thanks for the props, but it was Sly who asked about 18-34s filling out diaries and it was Motozak who said that the music is CRAP...and I second that! The music has turned to CRAP.

It depends on how you define the music as CRAP...are you saying that all "Hip Hop" is crap?, All "Rhythmic CHR" is crap? or could it possibly be that it's just the way the music flow on Jammin is programed that makes it crap?

The msuic is absolutely AWFUL, and I do like some hip/hop. Even worse is the music on Z100, that station is completely unlistenable. Every time I turn to Z100 it is Brittney Spears. WHo the heck is listening to Britney Spears and buying her music?????? I don't know of anyone. 15 year old girls have better taste in music and are smart enough to know that her music is disposable crap. How has TOP 40 gotten this bad????
I would bet that 8-34 year old have much better taste in music than to just sit and listen to Jammin Or Z100. My 15 year old niece laughs everytime the word Britney spears is brought up, she thinks that she is Trash and the music is garbage.
There is a lot of great Hip hop artists that put out great music, and THAN you have the no talent hacks Like Brittney Spears that gets all the airplay?? WTF! These so called "Music research tests" that Clear Channel does needs to be thrown in the garbage. ID be curious how much Testing Clear Channel is doing to see if anyone cares about the Brittney spears new album. Top 40 used to be so enjoyable before Cheap Channel took control of the playlists and made all stations play the exact same crap!

Rap/hip-hop is not inherently crap. What is crap is the commoditized rap that is little more that Ebonics, attitude, and a drum machine.

I think that it really is the programming methodology in use today that makes American CHR shoot itself in the foot. It seems that there is so much stuff that is popular-say on British CHR-that gets missed here because it doesn't fit with the stylistic niche that American CHR programmers want to push the format into.

Before 1996, Top 40 was programed LOCALLY! What worked in New York market, didn't work in Portland, Vice Versa. Cheap Channel got their hands and made all top 40 stations around the country sound EXAACTLY THE SAME! Z100 sounds just like Z100 in NY! That never used to be the case before 1996!

'bout time somebody said that Alfredo!

Totally agreed.

Gonna steal that line:

"little more that Ebonics, attitude, and a drum machine. " Nailed it! Thanks, I can't wait to show that one off!

Today's Hip Hop is still very popular with it's target demo, and many Rhythmic stations are still very successful. Just look at 94-9 Jamz, which is getting impressive numbers for a signal with such limited coverage.

The time mentioned for the change has been summer. Why not something that relates to the spring or fall book?

Will happen before summer

May 12th????

I used to think s drum machine would work for disco music records.another format to try is fox tvnews audiosimulcast!

well you can now listen to Jim Rome via streaming on kxl.com

Interesting.. is there some truth to this??? Stay tuned..

Gale says above >>>The Jammin' format will move to 1075<<<

Just exactly how it that going to work ?

Movin 107.5 is a CBS frequency and Jammin 95.5 is a Rose city radio station/frequency

So Rose City has no control over what is on 107.5, that is the call of the suits at CBS. And it may be that the horrible Movin on 107.5 is tweaked/relaunched with a heavy dose of the few successful things Jammin does now, along with a dose of the better parts of other similar formats from similar markets but I can't see a simple replication.

But a lot of the wiggers and teenies that Jammin scooped up at its launch years ago have moved on and the metro area still has a small population of African American "urban youth" so again I don't think a revamped 2008 Jammin format on 107.5 is a certainty.

What I can see is a lot of the radio suits in the city evaluating if their cojones are big enough to launch a blowtorch 100,000 watt FM Mexican.

EZL on 95.5. Now there is a 'full circle' concept.....reminiscent of AM simulcast on FM...

..........."Aisle 750" K X L Portland........

Why not Spanish? And kik El Rey's but with better live and local programming.

Why not Spanish? And kik El Rey's but with better live and local programming.

You honestly think CBS will dump any money into MOVIN 1075???

Look at the half assed job CBS has done with Movin, and than they go and fire one of the best talents. Nothing makes any sense with that station.

"More new formats for radio stations to try:
American Idol Radio, "
Z100

"News-Joke,"
Johnson 970 (I don't think that one's on the air any more)

"commercial free music"
KMHD, KBPS, KBOO (a lot of the time), KOPB (sometimes), HD2 subchannels for the time being

"bicycle traffic reports"
Now that's one I have yet to hear. Might fit in with KBOO's daytime programming, maybe as a "buffer zone" or "filler" between programmes.....

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Alfredo, even I wouldn't go so far as to call Rap (either the superior older stuff pre-1990 or the inferior stuff post-1991) "music" per se. More like a really, really extreme poetry reading. ;o)

> Alfredo, even I wouldn't go so far as to call Rap (either the superior older stuff pre-1990 or the
> inferior stuff post-1991) "music" per se

You know--that is the same thing that our Jr. High music teacher said back in 1989. He posed the question, "what is music," and then said that rap pushes the limits of what is usually considered music because many rap songs do not have melodies and the words are not sung. He said that rap is more like "speaking in rhythm."

Is this change to Sports going to happen for 95.5? Or is this just somebody's dream?

When someone opined that the Jammin' format would move to 107.5, I believe they meant that after the CHR/Rhythmic format was dropped by 95.5, a competing station,(in this case, KVMX)would pick up the format.

Would an actual Urban station work? Or is it the Justin Timberlake-ification of Hip Hop that will prevail.

Damn teenage girls. They ruin everything.

From the insiders' insider gossip I hear, the 95.5 all sports is a done deal.

I don't think "an actual Urban" station could work in Portland. True urban stations get 95% of their listening from African Americans. The Portland metro just doesn't have either the advertiser base (radio is still overwhelmingly local radio sales) or the young African American population to support it.

If Jammin flips to Sports -- watch Movin, or any other weaker format for that matter, flip to CHR/Ryth, just like they did in Pheonix with KZON. This is crazy. The format/music is just in a bad cycle. That, and when El Rey lauched it hurt their 18-34 Hispanic numbers. Hispanics make approx 30% of the 18-34 radio listeners vs. 8% of the general population.

Jay-

There is only room for 1 Reginal Mexican station in Portland, and El Rey is doing a great job. Plus, they have that Piolin dude in the morning, who is the on top in the 18-34 demo. He's good. I don't see anyone competing with them. If the market was bigger, maybe a FM Spanish CHR station.

Drive thru the burbs man. It's all hip hop for kids right?

Maybe I'm wrong, and I've done no studies on this like the companies have...

but dang, for all the rap I hear it's odd that it can't work.

whatev.

Love it! When people talk about Rap, it's a lot like when they talk about porn. Whatever it is they say, it says more about them, than it does about rap!

Adults always have a problem with the music of young people. My dad used to look at my Beatles album covers and would mutter about how he'd like to get those longhairs in boot camp one day!

And who could forget when John Lennon announced that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus! My mom was speechless for days!

"Adults always have a problem with the music of young people"- well said and it's quite obvious in this forum that most of the adults don't "get it" either regarding hip hop/rhythmic chr...they think they get it but they really don't..the format is not dead it's very much alive and is still hauling ass in other markets other than Portland....and by the way Rhythmic CHR just doesn't cater to African Americans exclusively as it has been suggested here before.

For real. It's like people don't want to admit their peers grew up and still iisten to it, and especially don't like the idea of their kids listening. so they trivialize it.

Anyway, as gen Xers grow up and keep bumping their tunes, executives and advertisers will take notice.

There's always shade 45!!!

Im just curious, Id like to know an opinion of someone who is very into the hiphop/rap scence, what do they think of the new music coming out on the radio? Is the hiphop as good as the stuff that was coming out 10-15 years ago?I couldn't help but laugh when I heard the new single From Snoop Dogg On Jammin, he is actually singing in the song!
Since when is Snoop Dogg a singer?? It was AWFUL!
The only Rap artists that I actually listen to is OUTKAST, other than that I can't take the new rap stuff coming out.

It's called "Progression" in the format...at this very point in time- "Rhythmic CHR" is leaning very R&B based on a lot of hip hop artist songs..The Snoop song "Sensual Seduction" is a good example of this....which is also getting decent airplay at mainstream chr currently. Is the hip hop as good as it was 10- 15 years ago? It depends who you ask...there are people who are stuck in a time warp and think that if it isn't 2Pac or Biggie than it's not hip hop..for me, hip hop at it's current state is every bit as good as some of the stuff that was coming out 10-15 years ago.

I would agree with ten years ago. It's not really changed. But 20 years ago is an entirely different story. When it was new, there wasn't a template for commercial success so everybody was trying new stuff and writing about whatever they liked.

now it's a dance beat, a decent singer for the hook, and lyrics about love, sex, and partying.

You have to look harder for original content now, but it's still out there.

Lupe Fiasco, Immortal Technique, etc...These guys don't make the millions but they have more respect on the block and are revered by the hip hop community for not selling out.

The stuff on the radio to me is garbage with interchangable parts for the most part.

Right on Huckandsuz, Good Points! I Think with most music today, you have to turn the radio off and discover the actual good music because RADIO will not bring it to you.
Maybe I'm getting old and Crusty, but I really hate The rap/hiphop played on Jammin and Z100!
I've always been a rocker, but growing up I was always really into the rap that was played on the radio like Naughty By Nature, Snoop Dogg, House Of Pain, Cypress Hill, Notorious BIG, and as I look back at that stuff I still enjoy it today.
And Sly- You are making very good points with the "Progression" comment, but sometimes an artist progresses so much that they sound fake. "sensual suduction" sounds like a record producer forcing snoop to sing on these songs, that Snoop Dogg didn't write and Would never do this type of song on his own but because he wants to sell records he has sold out. "sensual suduction" is Crap. I'm not stuck in a time warp,I'll be honest I do love my classic rock, BUT i also love discovering new bands and artists and I'm even open to hearing some New Hip/hop, but the stuff on the radio is so painfully bad its not even worth listening to anymore. I loved Snoop Dogg back in the day, I still have my copy of "doggy Style" on CD, I thought that was a GENIUS ALBUM!! It was raw, it was REAL and it didn't sound fake like this "sensual seduction" crap.
By the way, the Throw back hour on Jammin is AWESOME! Thats about the only time I can listen to that station. To me the 90's had some great rap that was played on the radio.
Hey Sly- What happend to Eminem?? I loved both of his albums that came out. I wish that guy was still putting out records.

On the R&R Website today:
"KJCD (104.3 FM Denver) Drops Smooth Jazz For 'The Fan'"

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"The New FM Sportsradio, 104.3 the Fan" debuted at 1 p.m. with co-hosts Scott Hastings and Alfred Williams. The on-air lineup also includes "The Sports Guys" (Mike Evans, Sandy Clough, Thierry Smith from 5-10 a.m.); Jim Rome (10 a.m.-1 p.m.); Irv Brown, Joe Williams and Jim Armstrong (3-7 p.m.); Patrick Watkins (7-9 p.m.) and the Dan Patrick Show (9 p.m.-midnight). Live broadcasts of Colorado Avalanche and Denver Nuggets games will also move to the FM location.

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Schonz should have his own talk show on radio. It would be great.

JT,

I hear what you are saying about selling out but could it possibly be that Snoop as an artist was genuine in this quote about his current hit?:

"Sensual Seduction" is like a throwback feel-good song," said Snoop of the new single. "I wanted to have fun with this one ... and the video is crazy!"...sounds to me like he had total control over this song.

Snoop just went on larry king last week to show larry how good of a singer he was. It was HORRIBLE.
Snoop, like all "artists" think they are GREAT at EVERYTHING. Give them a little success at one thing and they are the bomb in Everything.
The best years of rap were in the late 70's to early 80's when the only time you could hear it was on KBOO with Vitamix the dj and it was late at night.
For this white boy it was some pretty heavy stuff and opened my eyes to the African American community in a way I never could have imagined.
No gangsta, no party, no "bitches and ho's" just good lyrics done in a way that I had never heard before.

Over the past 40 years that have been pronounced cycles for the CHR(s)formats. Usually due to either a lull in solid material exclusive to the format (as opposed to A/C crossover) or a new "style" dominates CHR and drives older CHR listeners to a hot AC. Look across markets - over years, and the CHR vs Hot AC cycles are very clear. CHR stations tend to go through the cycle when their original listeners get too old (like 25) for the format and newer listeners consider the station their parents or older siblings station. New station emerges. Cycle repeats. Stale station re-invents, retakes lead. etc.

And sly - my post about African Americans was in regard to the question whether a real "Urban" could work here. I stand by my answer.

He wasn't asking about rhythmic CHR, or Churban, he asked about URBAN. And that format is overwhelmingly African American!

Im curious, what does a REAL Urban station play, versus a rythmic chr/churban???

And Sly- More good points. BUT I believe Snoop Dogg has completely sold out 100% Do I blame the guy, not really he's making millions and living the life he NEVER had as a kid. As far as the True "snoop Dogg fans, I would bet you, they are all saying the same thing about his new music "ITS CRAP"!!! On the flip side, im sure those 11 year old girls love his latest stuff, but then again these are the same girls that think Brittney is the most talented artist in the world.

Justin - If you're in the on-air/programming side of the biz, suggest you start following the charts in R&R. Every week. You'll see how formats are defined by radio, records, and the trades.

Charts for Urban and Rhythmic overlap considerably, especially at the top where the multi-format smash hits live.

Right now, Urban has charted TOP 30 (without Rhythmic airplay) Keyshia Cole, Rocko, SouljaBoye, Lyfe Jennings, Jaheim, Dolla featuring T-Pain, Lil Wil, Hurricane Chris.
Rhythmic has charted TOP 30 (without Urban airplay) Rihanna, Sean Kingston, Fergie, Jordin Sparks, Pitbull.

Whether a station is labeled Urban or Rhythmic by the music media and ratings companies is determined both by their audience comp (If the comp is more than 80% A.A. its gonna get labeled Urban, regardless of what they call themselves in building or on air), and which national playlist demonstrates the most in common with the local station's list.

So what do you think people RA18-34 listen to?

Rock/Alternative/Pop and no URBAN????????

Another thing.....look at KUBE 93 ratings in Seattle.

Edawg - If the question was for me, I don't understand the RA part of the demo.

KUBE is labeled by R&R as a Rhythmic CHR rather than Urban. Their ratings are quite fine.

Seattle has a 5.3% African American population in the metro area, significantly higher than the Portland Metro. And Portland's metro has almost twice the Hispanic comp of Seattle.

"Fixing" Jammin' would certainly be a serious option for most companies, since the direct competition (Z100) has faltered in the past, and is under CCU's "no spending" umbrella for now.

But Jammin's owners may believe that they can create much greater synergy between other assets (blazers, etc) and an all sports station. 12-24 demo radio is a tough grind in any sales environment. With the youth surge toward newer media, and advertisers in general wanting more and more value added, product placement, etc., switching Jammin' may be a business and revenue decision, totally unrelated to ratings.

Back in the stone age, owners blew up the #1 station in Portland, KUPL - Beautiful Music... to flip formats to compete against the #2 station in town KWJJ-country. Everyone thought they were nuts...... at the time.

Scripps Howard blew up the number 6 station in the market to go country. They had no idea it would rank number one in total audience when the fall book was released reflecting the beautiful music format. Doubt that would have had any effect on their decision. They had a great management team to facilitate the switch to country which proved to be a very wise 25-54 decision.

Very few of the serious managers thought they made a mistake. Sheldon Baker thought it was hilarious.

Who?

RA = Ratings Adult.

Woops, I should of said 18-34 instead of RA18-34. RA18-34 use for sales.

KUPL changed to Country right after the ratings came out, saying that they were going to change anyway. Not only was KUPL-FM ranked #1 with an 8.8 share but their Nostalgic KUPL-AM had a 5.7! Both stations got the axe.

The KUPL format change happened in late February 1984. I remember hearing or maybe reading in the "Behind The Mike" column, KUPL changed format because even though they were Number 1, the sales staff was having problems selling the format to clients.

That sounds familiar. 1984 was the beginning for 3 legendary stations: The revamping of KUPL, K103 and Z100!

here sre a couple more formats to try:
all folk/folk rock,
all filk songs,
judg judy/peoples court programs

I can't wait to see how the kids react.

My oldest son is big into sports. Bet he tunes it fairly often. The girls and younger one will tune out, or over to where ever the next closest thing is.

I know a fair number of people my age who would tune a well done sports format on FM. Could be excellent.

Semoochie said: "KUPL changed to Country right after the ratings came out, saying that they were going to change anyway. Not only was KUPL-FM ranked #1 with an 8.8 share but their Nostalgic KUPL-AM had a 5.7! Both stations got the axe."

This is correct. And proved once again, NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED :-)

Craig Adams said: "The KUPL format change happened in late February 1984. I remember hearing or maybe reading in the "Behind The Mike" column, KUPL changed format because even though they were Number 1, the sales staff was having problems selling the format to clients."

Also exactly correct.

Gale Tulare said: "Scripps Howard blew up the number 6 station in the market to go country. They had no idea it would rank number one in total audience when the fall book was released reflecting the beautiful music format. Doubt that would have had any effect on their decision."

This is also true. I remember at the time, Ken Lowe saying it was like "watching your mother-in-law drive your new car off a cliff."
The main reason for doing the switch so suddenly was to preempt K103, which was going to be a country station. As a matter of fact, they (K103) already had music researched, carted and ready to go. They had an air staff mostly hired and we waiting only fot the studio build-out, to get on the air as Portland's newest country station.

Gail also said: "They had a great management team to facilitate the switch to country"

I had to chuckle at this comment. There was no management team. It was Ken Lowe, (the scripps natl PD) and me. Ken asked me at the time what I thought of the idea of changing to country. I told him I thought the better opportunity was some sort of soft AC.

(keep this in mind, I will come back to it.)

But I also remember saying it was their radio station and they could certainly do whatever they wanted with it. I also volunteered to help him change it. My thinking wasthat you don't get many chances in a career to totally blow up a station and build a new one from the ground up.

We called a scripps sister station, WMC in Memphis, and asked them tp put their production dept. on 24 hr shifts to dub a complete library onto carts and air freight it to us. At the same time we started hiring air staff. Keith Todd and Neil Penland were a couple of the first ones hired. I did the morning show for the first couple of weeks until we got people hired for that. Then I left.

Gail also said: "which proved to be a very wise 25-54 decision."

The advantage of hindight is a wonderful thing. Eventually, KUPL became the dominant country station in the market and held that position for a long time. But, it did not happen quickly and bled thousand dollar bills for quite a while. I am sure there were times when Scripps was wondering if they would ever overtake KWJJ. Like now, there was a battle for the title, country leader.

Meanwhile, Columbia Willamette Broadcasting company (KKCW - K103) got their studio built and introduced the market to a soft AC derivitive they called "Love Songs, nothing but Love Songs."
Much hooting and laughing from the market guru's all saying the format was too schmaltzy and smarmy to amount to anytbing.

Exactly 12 months later, Feb of '85, K103 was a dominate number one in adults 25-54 and had female numbers that were off the charts.
(Here, please recall my format suggestion to Scripps Howard and remember what I said about the advantage of hindsight)

Sometimes it is hard to be humble. tee hee

Oh and by the way, I think the sports on 95.5 would be very viable. I also think Tim, Bill A and Steve Scott will know how to make it very profitable too. I can't wait to watch it happen.

If this rumor is in fact true, My guess is that the switch wouldnt happen until after the Trail Blazer season is over (4/16). I dont think the Trail Blazers would want their games moved to a new station during the season, but I could be wrong.

Since the station in question shares an ownership interest in the team, waiting until the end of the season makes no difference...except for possibly cheapening the value of the games on KXL. Simulcasting the games on AM & FM for the rest of the season is an option. Adds some intrigue, doesn't it? (Not to mention fueling the rumor mill!)

One thing I've noticed about sports formats (we have *THREE* AM all-sports stations in Phoenix!) is that, while numbers are nice, sales and revenue can outperform the ratings handily. The drivers are play-by-play and sports hosts that are VERY GOOD at what they do. If 95.5 makes the switch, I know lots of people will point to the ratings for a story, but it's not the WHOLE story in that format...

BTW, the Rose City REALLY needs another pro team to cheer for besides the Blazers...Have you though about Major League Baseball?? We're halfway through Cactus League spring training, and I've seen the Mariners early on...I think you could do better!

(Full disclosure: I'm in my 13th season of doing Spring Training public address announcing for the Oakland A's, so I'm biased...but yesterday's loss to the Milwaukee Brewers was under a fair sky and 78 degrees...a PERFECT DAY!! Find a place to build a domed multi-use stadium and bring the Florida Marlins to Portland...then there's another sport to negotiate rights for...)

Hey, we can get games in stereo again. Much better for sports action, IMHO.

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Author: Markandrews
Monday, March 10, 2008 - 10:17 am

Since the station in question shares an ownership interest in the team, waiting until the end of the season makes no difference...except for possibly cheapening the value of the games on KXL. Simulcasting the games on AM & FM for the rest of the season is an option. Adds some intrigue, doesn't it? (Not to mention fueling the rumor mill!)
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I like the idea of the games being on both FM and AM!

If they chose to make the switch during the season and only go with FM, it would make a difference. There would probably be a good # of people who would tune in to KXL and discover that the game was not on, and wouldnt think to check 95.5 FM. As a result, that could hurt the ratings a little.

PLEASE someone bring a Major League team to Portland! Man I envy you Mark!!!

If this does happen and I've NOT heard a word that it is. I'd look for a flip right after either the Winter Book (April 2nd) or the Spring Book (June 25th).

"here sre a couple more formats to try:
all folk/folk rock,"
KBOO at times

"all filk [I assume you mean "film"] songs,"
KKAD/MYL/Sunny (for the most part)

"judg judy/peoples court programs"
KPTV, KPDX, KRCW during the late-morning/early-afternoon hours. But those are TV stations, not radio.............

(Ya think they'd make shows like that in a radio format? In fact, didn't the BBC try something along similar lines some years ago for one of its FM or Eureka stations??)

Filk songs are parody songs that take popular or traditional songs and substitute different lyrics. In contrast to Weird Al Yankovic, the term filk is usually used when referring to the musical re-workings of amateur musicians. You'll find these on the Dr. Demento show, which is broadcast on KLOO and KCMD.

Mark is gone!
I said....
May 12th.....

Jennifer Marlow......the change will happen....An sports on an FM can work. If the Rose City crew is good at selling it should be a slam dunk. Everything I hear about it also tells me its going to be a pretty good sounding station. By the way to televise the KFXX afternoon show when there is nothing compelling about seeing a couple of guys on tv in a studio doesn't make sense. Maybe if they were on location during training camp, spring training, or at a some location where fun things are going on ie interviews etc. that would make you want to watch.......

Down Goes Frazier! Down Goes Frazier!

Here's what will happen:

-95.5 flips to sports without ESPN (and will never get it)

- Listeners will sample horrible product

- Rome, Fox Sports Radio, Canzano and any other wannabe they can dredge up will be bad radio all around

- Listeners will come to their senses that there could be something better than KFXX and will return to the Heritage Sports Station in the market

- FM Sports Stations don't work, if they did, we would have quite a few of them around the country and we don't

- The transparency on this board is unreal when it comes to wanting another sports station to work and have KFXX fail. How about this, stop being the laughing-stock of the sports world and get a second pro team in the city. Which will be baseball in about 10 years

I have never read so many loser posts and mis-informed jackasses in my life!

Make no mistake, there will be no espn radio for the new sports station. It will be bad sports radio. It will not bill. It will not get ratings. And in less than two years, it will fail.

When are you message board clowns going to realize that you don't know anything about radio and that's why you're not in it anymore.

Punks!

Are you actually that young and naive or just a 40 year old adolescence?

Either way it is very sad.

I find it hilarious that JM assumes none of us are "in radio anymore".

I sure am glad that got cleared up. :-)

Punks! Punks?? ha ha hahahahah.

I'm not in radio anymore, but it seems obvious even to an ignorant civilian like me that if Paul Allen wants ESPN, Paul Allen will get ESPN! How anyone could suggest otherwise is flabbergasting.

Nitefly, good point. J Marlow is a knucklehead who doesn't get it. I have personally seen Sports FM stations in the country doing well....talk about a novice in the business....

Just remember when you are throwing rocks from a glass house.

Nitefly: exactly.

Marlow/Jakman brings on the déjà vu........
"- Listeners will sample horrible product"

What?? I doubt it could be any worse than we are already getting via Jammin', could it?? At least on a Sport station (as opposed to chatterbox hip hop) I probably could understand what they are saying............a luxury I have rarely (if ever) been able to enjoy on Jammin.

Wt yall tink bout DAT?


"I have never read so many..........mis-informed jackasses in my life!"

Really? I only know of one on this board right now; I am completely certain it's the one I am quoting..............

Where's Merkin when we need her to set JM straight.

WOW!
JM is the shit! Wait till she/he reveals who she/he is.... Would love to know so that I can win my $30 from Rick.....
Christ... I'd hate to be this assclowns boss.
Your obviously pissed because you were passed up for the MD/PD job and taking out on the people on here that MIGHT know what the HELL is going on in P-town.
Have fun sitting in front of your 13" flat screen editing boring sounders for whatever bottom feeding show you work for. Or maybe your pissed because you have to board/opt for the Randi Rhodes show???

I dont care who marlow is, I beleive they are WRONG.

I've listed the reasons why. personally i dont care if KFXX succeeds or fails with a second station in town, they would be a perfectly good product with a live show 12-3 and a different local show, such as the ones in years past. I have no personal beef with the station, or the company.

I just happen to beleive that their information is flawed and their opinion is biased.

It WILL happen, and whether its ESPN or Fox, as long as Rose City moves its play-by-play sports to the station it WILL succeed. It will bill. And KXL's billing will go up as a result too.

Why would moving play-by-play to 95.5 increase billing at KXL (AM)? I'm not trying to be confrontational; this is an honest question. Also, will the call letters on 95.5 revert to KXL-FM? It would be nice if they did.

It depends on when the east coast games air. If they are getting good coin for the 4p-7p slot then it could increase.

Alfredo- Simple...Blazers have built in billing..they can move wherever...but with talk on KXL and Blazers on 95.5, they can both bill at a higher rate than 95.5 would in a daypart (evenings and weekends) when music stations typically bill less, since music radio is way more drive time oriented, price wise. The talk on KXL will be more consistent, so you can get better placement, no pre-emptions, etc...at least thats how it was explained to me from a friend who was once in sales.

"Also, will the call letters on 95.5 revert to KXL-FM?"

Or even K-95.5?? ;o)

How about this for an ID:

KXL-FM Portland is "Rose City Sports K-ESPN!"

Can you even have five-letter broadcast calls this far north of the Mexican border?!?

Yo quiro Taco del Mar......... ;o)

Do we know for sure that 95.5 is flipping to Sports, of all formats?

its happening...expect an announcement sooner rather than later.....possibly thurdsday

Motozak2: K-ESPN would be slogan call letters. Note I did ID as KXL-FM Portland before that. In slogan letters you can be as long as you want, just so you get your real calls in once an hour. How about K-SPORTS!

How about "XLent Sports"?

In the early 90's, when Rush Limbaugh was on KXL-AM, I thought that he could have done some very logical tie-ins with his "Excellence in Broadcasting" network. But apparently nobody got it.

Craig--

I know, I was kidding. But as I discovered, there is actually an XESPN radio station on 800 AM licensed to Tijuana.........

This from All Access:

----------------------Car Assaults Jammin's PlayHouse----------------------
A not-so-funny thing happened to the offices and studios of ROSE CITY RADIO Talk KXL-A and Top 40/Rhythmic KXJM (JAMMIN' 95-5)/PORTLAND: At around 1p FRIDAY afternoon, a listener purposely backed his car into the station lobby, ramming through doors, walls and the front desk. News reports indicate the assailant was angry about something that was broadcast on one of the station's morning shows.

Although KOIN-TV's website reports that it was a KXL listener, KXJM morning host PK believes it was his PlayHouse morning show. "We have evidence and reason to believe it's a listener who has been threatening us for the last five years," PK told ALL ACCESS. "I don't really know what we said today, but he must not have found it funny."

Fortunately, no one was injured. The assailant is still on the loose.
__________________________________________________________________
Question to pdxradio posters: Will todays incident at Jammin' have any effect on what MIGHT already be happening to the station in the near future?

OF COURSE!!! This is awesome publicity for Jammin, and it couldn't have happend at a better time!! PK says that this was a jammin listener who was upset about something they said on the air. I wonder if there is really any truth to that statement. PK is desperate to get any publicity about Jammin because he even knows the station might be history soon. Im not calling PK a liar BUT just remember where Jammin is at right now, low ratings, PD just got canned, its a desperate attempt to draw attention to jammin!

I Just can imagine any station or personality perpetrating something like this just for RATINGS! That's CRAZY!

Oh Come on Craig Adams, Have you ever listened to the Playhouse????

I'm not saying that this accident was intentional, BUT what I am saying that PK's story could be a fictional about the guy mad at the playhouse. Pk is trying to draw as much publicity around jammin to get his listeners back.

You'd think someone would've gotten his license number!

Washington plates: 683 RYU.

Look who has the domain 955TheGame.com registered through GoDaddy.

http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=955thegame.com&prog_id=godaddy

the interesting thing is that the domain was registered right around the same time rumors started on this very board of the idea falling apart....dont know what that means other than its interesting

The one thing I've learned about observing college and pro sports for over 35 cynical years is simply that the more a rumor is denied, the truer it is. False rumors get ignored.

Wow Country Bob. Didya do that?! Yeehaw.

the more a rumor is denied, the truer it is.

Is not April Fools day Tuesday? Is this PK and Ivan's idea of a April Fools Joke?

rumors:620 resuming Super62 Oldies?.
910 resuming KKIzsN Oldies
620 will be "Hannitized" soon!!!?
1190 dropping HD!!!

1190 simulcasting 620
KXL broadcasts Z-ROCK
KPAM goes Hillary 24/7
KUIK goes AM STEREO (again)
LimBLAH moves to 1150 at the 12am to 3am slot. The 47 watt blowtorch should help his ratings.

Soon to be 63 watts!

Well then scratch that and put him on KBNP's 9 watts of nighttime power.

Tomorrow would be a great day to make the switch. April Fools Day!

Audlt std hit heard on 1010yesterday:
Tutti-fruitti- Little Richard!!??!!
Easy Listening???wop Boppalulllbingbangboom!!!!

I heard "Celebration" by Kool & The Gang on 1010 this weekend. But, what does this have to do with 95.5 flipping to sports-talk? Is Djfrresh in da house?

This from R&R:

---------------------------Big Changes At KXJM---------------------------

By Darnella Dunham

Rose City Radio rhythmic KXJM (Jammin 95.5)/Portland, Ore., MD/midday personality Big Kid Bootz has been promoted to PD, while retaining his previously assigned roles. He replaces Mark Adams, who departed last month and was recently named PD of CBS Radio's newly launched CHR/top 40 KKHH (Hot Hits 95-7)/Houston.

There’s also a change for KXJM’s night show: The Baka Boyz have been replaced by weekender Stevie G.

62!
The rehab didn't work!!!!

sfter zESPN, they can play Little Richard and Elvis Records, unless 620 decides to do that first!!???

Is 62KGW Dj Fresh's illegitimate child?

Im thinking so!

ENGLISH 62KGW PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH!