http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4279122&page=1

It's not over yet, though. Not until the Clintons have their chance to pressure the superdelegates.

Herb

What's Hickabee going to do? He's running out of southern states. God bless.

I think Mr. Huckabee is now running for VP.

Herbert Agnew Huckabee

I think Huckabee's belief in his campaign is as laughable as his disbelief in scientific fact.

"...scientific fact.."

Oh, you mean the pathetic joke of a THEORY called evolution. The one that says we descended from apes, whilst defying the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics?

So just where did that first cell get started. Nothing suddenly rebelled against nothing and became....something? Yeah, right.

It takes far more faith to worship at the altar of secular humanism than to believe in a Creator. You are in the minority.

Herb

The HUCKster is toast!

If you want to talk about pathetic theories, look no further than your religious beliefs. There is ZERO scientific proof of anything you believe in. ZERO.

Oh, you mean the pathetic joke of a THEORY called evolution. The one that says we descended from apes, whilst defying the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics?

No, I think it's the one that says we were all amoebas in the swamp and poof all of a sudden two of the amoebas got together and a brazillion years later, here we are!

AND there is NO scientific PROOF of evolution. Theories, yes, but no proof.

So which side is right?

Ooops, forgot about that part, huh!

"There is ZERO scientific proof of anything you believe in."

Wishing it were so doesn't make the truth go away. It merely makes your own argument weaker.

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Scientific-Proof-of-Bible.php

http://www.biblelife.org/creation.htm

http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/historical-and-scientific-proof-of-jesus-faq. htm

The bible is only proof that man wrote something down. There can be no verification that anything in the bible is true.

Evolution is a scientific fact, religion is not, and never will be.

"Evolution is a scientific fact.."

Evolution is THEORY and facts of the Bible are provable.

Herb

Evolution is THEORY and facts of the Bible are provable.

So prove it Mr. Illegal Alien

If the facts of the bible were provable, there would be no debate about it. But, they are not, thus, we call it faith, not fact.

Hey, after he is done, can you guys direct me to the missing link?

No.

Many of the facts of the Bible are indeed provable.

The Hittites were long said to have been an 'error' in the Bible. Skeptics argued that the Hittite civilization was a 'fairy tale.'

yet archaeologists later proved that sure enough, the Hittites indeed lived, just as told in the Bible.

The secular humanist 'experts' were abysmally wrong.

Herb

Well looks like the oldest debate known is back on the front burner.

I'll excuse myself from this debate so I can catch the drool after I fall asleep for my mid day nap.

I'll try not to wake Chris up, but Herb is right about the Hittite corporation.

The Bible is a book. Like any volume, it can mean nothing or everything. The written word has always and will always depend on the interpretation and imagination of the reader to give it life.

I know that many people who study and deify Ayn Rand are assholes. However, like the Bible, I am willing to concede that interpretation is everything. It's the reader, not the read.

Hey Herb, lets get back to what you started as the topic, for which I say.

It ain't over until the Fat Limbaugh STOPs singing.

"Hey Herb, lets get back to what you started as the topic.."

Fair enough.

If Mrs. Clinton pulls this one off using superdelegates, there will be heck to pay from democrats.

Whatever happened to one person, one vote in an election?

Herb

Neither candidate will have enough delegates to win it outright unless there is a very serious swing. Running the numbers, Hillary could win every remaining state by a 60-40 margin, be short of clinching and still need super delegates.

1980 was a real mess and hurt the Democratic Party. In their struggle against the Reagan revolution, Ted Kennedy almost became the candidate over President Carter. Those divisions and a weak party drove traditional Democrats to the Gipper. Sure enough, come November, they got their asses handed to them.

A knee-jerk reaction was proposed, and unfortunately, it was adopted. Super delegates were created in 1982 as a undemocratic solution to a divided Democratic Party. Many within the ranks questioned the logic, but it still stood. Sure enough, in 1984, it all boiled down to the newly created super delegates. New rules or not, it was messy and hurt the party.

Everyone was focused on Gary Hart and his busy choad. So, as the race wound to a close, Mondale called the press, crowned himself the nominee and handpicked a running mate. He did not win the popular vote in the primaries, but that was irrelevant. Fritz made sure he fluffed the right people. He went to the convention smugly knowing that everyone else would have to catch up with his unilateral decisions.

Scared of losing, the Democrats rolled out the red carpet for No Fault Walt and his super delegates. They sucked it up and pretended to unite. It was all over as soon as the last balloon gently descended from the rafters. They left the hall without a strong unifying candidate or an enthusiastic movement. Sure enough, come November, they got their asses handed to them.

So, here we are in 2008...