http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/huckabee-wins-kansas-will-stay-in-race/20 080209160609990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

This blows the theory that Mr. Huckabee's campaigning is 'merely regional' clear out of the water!

I still like Huckabee-Nader, Huckabee-Rice or Huckabee-Schlafly.

Herbert Huckabee Milhous III

Gotta love your optimism.

Is it me or do others feel that everytime you say Huckabee's name you make a hiccup sound?

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep! The hics in Kansas help out one of their own. Now they will pull out their bibles and pray for brains.

Chris, if you are taking a vote, you can put me down for an aye. :0)

I gotta say, a McCain-Huckabee ticket would be formidable.

And really entertaining!

Huckabee is pretty good at doing something with nothing. The figures show that Mitt Romney paid $654,000 per delegate and has nothing to show for it. I am sure nobody else in the GOP leadership understands Hamburger Helper quite like Mike does. As this race stretches on, Huck might be cooking mac-n-cheese and sloppy joes in the tent for the McCain staff too.

Don't know why but whenever I see the name "Huckabee" I think of "Huckleberry Hound"! Weird. Carry On.

Hey, the guy plays the four-string, he can't be all bad!

http://www.state.wv.us/sga/HuckabeeGuitar_300.jpg

You know what? I bet the kids will want to put that in their lockers this spring.

Like Eddie Van Halen or Rick Springfield.

The HUCKster is TOAST!

No kidding. Got this sent to me today:

http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000918.htm

Here's the highlights from that link and the two parts that follow:

1. Huckabee Calls for the Quarantine of AIDS Victims

2. Huckabee Enables the Politically-Motivated Parole of Repeat Rapist/Murderer

3. Huckabee Offers Faith-Based Pardons

4. Huckabee Undermines the Teaching of Evolution

5. Huckabee Speaks for God

6. Huckabee Speaks to God

7. Huckabee Claims God Behind His Rise in the Polls

8. Huckabee Proclaims His Theology Degree a Unique Qualification to Fight Terrorism

9. Huckabee Flip-Flops, Calls for Federal Abortion Ban

10. Huckabee Calls for Consumption Tax, Abolition of the IRS

11. Huckabee Vows to Take Nation Back for Christ

12. Huckabee Declares Culture War in 1998 Book

13. Huckabee Declares Women Should Graciously Submit to Their Husbands

14. Huckabee Predicts Victory over Islam at the End of Times

15. Huckabee Boasts About Theology Degree He Doesn't Have

16. Huckabee Destroys His State Computer Records - and Church Sermons

17. Huckabee Offers State Appointments in Exchange for Gifts

18. Huckabee Uses Wedding Registries to Furnish New Home

19. Huckabee Offers Clemency to Repeat DWI Offender (and GOP Donor)

20. Huckabee Intervenes to Save Dog-Killing Son from Legal Jeopardy

21. Huckabee Encourages Televangelist to Defy Senate Investigation

22. Huckabee Wants Americans to be "Soldiers for Christ" in "God's Army"

23. Huckabee Calls for a Faith-Based Constitution

24. Huckabee Wants to Crimalize Abortion Providers

25. Huckabee Vows to Deport All Illegal Aliens

26. Huckabee Equates Homosexuality with Bestiality

27. Huckabee Says the Lord Gave Him Wisdom During GOP Debates

28. Huckabee Gets Scatalogical in Defense of the Confederate Flag

29. Huckabee Compares Search for Iraq WMD to Easter Egg Hunt

30. Huckabee Calls for Taxes on Pimps, Prostitutes and Drug Dealers

Ok, so let's say this guy has a Huckster axe to grind. Well, I can't blame him for that, but let's just say that's cherry picking. (which it really is)

Anyone care to balance that out? That is the usual remedy for cherry picking. Post up the good stuff that puts this all into context, and show us that this guy is actually not a dominionist nut-bag.

Interestingly, I think there is something on this list that everybody will say, "hell yes!" to, and a batch of things that end up being, "WTF?!?". I think this is extremely difficult to do and remain sane.

The Raw Meat award for 2008 goes to this guy, big time.

Every sports team that wins a championship claims god helped them win.


God does not exist so who cares who or what claims he helped them.

It only matters if you are stupid enough to actually believe in God.

It only matters if you are stupid enough to actually believe in God.

I'd rather be "stupid" and when I die find out there is no God than be STUPID and when I die find out there IS a God.

Right on, Skybill.

Pascal's Wager, indeed.

http://www.bartleby.com/61/31/P0093175.html

http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=2e27e13572cbf59eb343

Missing, I bow to your laughter inducing capacity with just a fistful of facts. I love the combination of insight and incite blended smooth into a tall frosty irony shake. I think that "Are You a Dominionist Nut-Bag?" would be a fantastic tee-shirt for the coming election season.

Blaise Pascal's wager is still a valid and unanswered question. It was asked in a time of great suffering, inequality, injustice, unspeakable torture and scientific persecution. It was boldly said to a continent forced into everlasting ignorance by a cruel church-based empire. Thirty years after his death, Europe began a systematic murder of millions of Americans. All of this and more was done in the name of God. With all of that as a backdrop, "Why do you believe?" is a damn good question, and it is still worth asking.

I believe that Pascal, like Martin Luther and so many others, tore up and exposed the very rotten roots of false religions: Fear based theology and totalitarian power. Poor spirituality is far less rooted in stupidity, than the cultivation of fear and the enforcement of ignorance. When a church likes to use names like flock and followers instead of brethren and peers, you really ought take a closer look at their motivations.

Someone who believes with all of their heart in something is not stupid. However, their capacity for believing is equally proportionate to their belief in themselves. Furthermore, their understanding of that belief is also equally proportionate to their understanding of themselves.

Fearful people make bad decisions just as often as ignorant ones. Folks from both camps often call themselves believers without having found the capacity for faith or critical thinking. The truth is not a consistent thread in what they say. It is not something they actively seek. They have not been encouraged to do it, so they do not. You might be surprised, but a lot of folks are fine with leaving their minds in the hands of others. Truth becomes a facade they must construct from the scraps they are fed in church or by parroting media. God has nothing to do with it.

I think that for many centuries, millions of people were in touch with God. Long before there was a name, set of rules, or a single pane of stained glass. One need not be booksmart or part of a group to be spiritually sound. One only needs to be in touch with the things that make you tick. If the only barometer is a deep and true faith, I bet heaven is chock full of yurts and huts. I imagine folks spread out across the countryside, a vast assortment of native villages with only a few steeples and domes scattered here and there among little neighborhoods of houses. No huge suburban sanctuaries... Thank God!

Of course, this is just how I see it. YMMV.

Mike Huckabee is a dominionist nut-bag.

"When a church likes to use names like flock and followers instead of brethren and peers, you really ought take a closer look at their motivations."

You make a good point. Often that such a statement is made by those in the flock themselves, but I get your point. Indeed, Martin Luther spoke of the 'priesthood of all believers.'

That doesn't lessen the responsibility of men of the cloth, however. The Good Book states that they will be judged very harshly for any willful wrong-doing, given their position of leadership.

Herb

"The Good Book states that they will be judged very harshly for any willful wrong-doing, given their position of leadership."

Which is exactly why hell has 1,574 religious channels on cable, and Heaven has the occasional fireside chat from the Big Kahuna on the old Philco. I guess it is all about having a spirited workforce.

For what it's worth, I don't think there is TV in heaven.

No need for the distraction when one is in a state of eternal bliss right?

Edit: Forgot Sports center. My bad

Agreed he's a nut-bag.

Love the T-shirt idea!

...and he's got balls! Big brass Colbert kind.

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/10/huckabee-challenges-washington-caucus- results/

Go Huckster! He gets the nod and it's in the bag for the Dems. How can it be otherwise with that meat list he's schlepping?

For what it's worth, I don't think there is TV in heaven either. My mythical Philco was nice tube set in a bakelite case. I might have dropped a "Golden Throat" reference instead, but after all those years at the Aladdin, people get Linda Lovelace and RCA mixed up.

In this day and age I find it amazing people still believe in a fairy tell story like the bible.

More power to ya but if this dude believes "God" helped him win then he is an idiot.

Remember, the terrorist that blew up the WTC claimed God wanted them to do that. How are they any more wrong then you are?

"How are they any more wrong then you are?"

Because Jesus didn't teach murder.

Herb

yea, that makes sense. Its not like the Roman Catholic church never started a war....

Not to mention all those idiots that blow up abortion clinics in the name of god.

"In this day and age I find it amazing people still believe in a fairy tell story like the bible. "

Historians, both Christian/religous and secular, see the bible as a historical document on many levels.

Historians will tell you that people through the ages wrote things down. They used cave walls, to scrolls and everything else in between to communicate on their time in history. Not counting many oral histories.

The bible is probably the most researched, studied, and worked over book ever put together.

Uh huh. Like I said before. More power to ya if you want to believe it.

I especially like the part in the bible where lots where turns to salt after looking back on Sodom. I mean that kinda of shit happens every day now doesnt it?

Well if you read that passage literally it does look rather bizarre.

I am currently reading a book called "The Year of Living Biblically: One Man's Humble Quest to Follow the Bible as Literally as Possible" by AJ Jacob.

Jacob's describes himself as an agnostic however he is sincerely trying to live the literal biblical laws. Jacobs has a great sense of humor and allows himself some wiggle room on certain things.

I have stated over and over on this message board that if you choose to read the bible you must read it with a historical/metaphorical mindset, or otherwise the story of Lot and others are just simply way out there.

Like all mythology, fables, and fairy tales, bible stories were made up by priests to explain what prehistoric (before writing was invented) peoples wanted to know about themselves and their world. The stories were also moral lessons to encourage proper social and political behavior. They preceded scientific discoveries and relied on absolute faith in the priests' pronouncements.

Not to mention all those idiots that blow up abortion clinics in the name of god.

People who do that sort of thing DO NOT represent true Christians. Two wrongs do not make a right (although 3 rights make a left). If you ask any Christian if they think that abortion doctors should be killed, you will get a resounding no.

Just like the Islamic terrorists that crashed the planes into the WTC do not represent true Muslims.

There are extremists in ALL groups, yep even Democrats.

Should the whole group be characterized by a few wing nuts that do stupid things?

It's real easy for someone (especially left leaning people) to point at those loose cannons and say they are all like that, when in reality, nothing is farther from the truth.

Because Teddy Kennedy got some girl knocked up and then drown her, does that mean ALL Democrats do that? No, not by a long shot.

Because Larry Craig tried to pick up some fruit in an airport bathroom, does that mean all Republicans do that? Again, No, not by a long shot.

Grow Up and get real.

Blah blah blah. spare me with the true christians bull crap. I am not buying it.

OK, then using your wonderful logic, how many women have you gotten pregnant and then drown?

bakelite...

I think I would take a Zenith, complete with Magic Loop, Long Range Antenna, and the sweet passive EQ on the tower model.

The soft glow, smell of wood, maybe a bit of burnt dust (we do have some dust in Heaven right?), and it's about as good as it gets.

Skybill, I completely agree. However --and this is kind of a big and growing however, there is a disturbing number of people pushing this crap. They are funded and working hard.

Giving decent people a bad name --really bad, as in bad enough to step away from the whole deal, just to avoid the stigma.

Something to think about.

Mc74 Interesting perspective on how the bible was written.

What priests are you talking about? Can you give some historical time line?

I apoligize to herb for hijacking his topic. I suppose if you want me to talk religion then start a new topic.

We are all guilty of hijacking threads.

I am generally (though not as angrily) in Mc74's camp in regards to religion over the centuries.

I think faith however is an entirely different issue.

I am a skeptic too. However, being raised with religion has taught me a great deal. Though my spirituality has since been stripped of ritual and dogma, I have a great deal of faith. The Bible is but one book of many holy texts that one should study for perspective. Even if one is not motivated to find God, one can gain fantastic insight into the human condition.

Missing, I think you sold me on the Zenith. :0)

Hey, since we are kind of in this happy fun Heaven groove, maybe it's far away so we can listen to the broadcasts past, or our pal God can use his all powers and get us a feed!

Could just sit there, tuning listening and just thinking. IMHO, that's a little bit of bliss.

Agreed religion has nothing to do with my faith. It was nice to hear that Sunday morning as well.