It seems that their message is; "Shut Up, Bill"

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/01/29/one-by-one-angry-liberals-turn-their-b acks-on-team-clinton/

More of the Clintons "triangulation", so she can run as a "moderate".

No surprise you guys are without a candidate to promote, so instead you will just poke away at the other side.

We all know that Hillary has had a near 50% negative since before Willie started flapping his mouth. His Republican like behavior (going after Obama the way GHWBush went after him) only gives long standing Democrats a justification for backing Obama.

Obama has broader support than anyone the GOP has.
There is no one candidate that will appeal to the hard core conservatives that are not only social conservatives but also fiscal conservatives. The question remains as to whether or not the Clinton machine can outhustle him in the Feb5 contests.

BTW ... don't you think it's about time you lay off the labels?
There are many registered Democrats that are not hard core liberals, especially when you evaluate social issues vs. fiscal issues. No, of course not. Both the Republicans and the Conservatives have their last bit of power and influence at stake, and with no broad support it's the end of the ride as you guys know it. Reinvent yourself and stop relying on classic labels and arguments. They are stale and have no future. America is only as strong as its people, and the inability to evolve as the planet ages has always been the weakness of those who cling to the status quo like it was the last bullet in your clip.

I didn't label it. Just cut and pasted.

There is a lot of clear desperation from the right as they go after the Democratic candidates. But it's a win-win-win from my perspective. First, I'd be happy with any of the three Democratic front-runners winning the nomination. Sure, I have my favorite, but if (s)he doesn't get it I'd be just fine with either of the other two.

And though all three bring solid Democratic ideals to the table, each is their own person with their own leadership style and perspective on America. So when a rightie takes a whack at Hillary, the net effect is to make either Obama or Edwards look better. Same with attacks on Obama, etc.

None of these attacks, or "observations" as Skybill would probably call them, do nothing to injure the Democratic field. The Republicans have nothing new to offer, unless new means being even more Bush-like, so not even an option when considering top-tier candidates.

The Democratic primary is getting so much attention because it is in essence the presidential election. Based on what the Republicans are offering up, the eventual Democratic nominee will be the next occupant of the White House.

"...you will just poke away at the other side..."

You forget the leftist 'bash Bush' bandwagon around here.

Herb

The clown deserves every last bit of it. Sorry, but that's long been established, over and over and over. Not a good leader, not at all.

BTW: That comes from people on all sides, not just one in particular. Americans are unhappy, not one party or political alignment. Lots of Americans are unhappy, and that's why the bashing happens.

Sorry.

It's Mrs. Clinton who deserves every last bit that she wrought with Whitewater, the Rose Law firm billing records, turning $1,000 into $100,000 through stock options, Travelgate, Vince Foster, etc., etc., etc.

Herb

"turning $1,000 into $100,000 through stock options"

When did successful investing become a black mark on one's resume'? Oh yes...when a Republican is financially successful (Romney, Bush) it's the American dream at it's best, but when it's a Democrat (Clinton, Edwards) it's crass capitalism.

And how many have died as a result of Bush's actions v. Hillary's, Mr. Every-Life-is-Precious?

Actually Herb, I'll grant you all your complaints about Hillary if you will concede the real, extensive list of direct and indirect harms that Bush has brought on this country and it's people.

It's undeniable, but you continue to deny it, Mr. Spin.

Mr Troll is PO'd that a Democrat like Hillary Clinton was able make lotsa dough using Republican-honed methods, while the troll himself, a die hard Republican, was unable to accomplish the same thing.

The fact the troll brought up Whitewater again, something Clinton was cleared of, proves once again, the troll is indeed a TROLL!

You forget the leftist 'bash Bush' bandwagon around here.

ALL YOU EXTREMERS did for 7 1/2 yrs was to punch Clinton in the Fin head. PAYBACK IS A BITCH ISN'T IT!!!!!!

Herb please explain two items to me regarding Hillary: One What about the much ado about nothing Whitewater? And two explain to me how Hillary is responsible for someone commiting suicide?

Disclaimer: I like the Clintons. Bill is one of this countries greatest presidents IMHO. However Hillary is just as divisive as Dubya, and furthermore one thing that America is not about and should never ever again be about is presidential dynasties. With all that said,

OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA!

Shyguy, there is no proof positive one way or the other about Vince Foster.

There are lots of inconsistencies. The book The Strange Death of Vincent Foster is a good read and sheds a different perspective on the suicide theory.

http://www.namebase.org/sources/bI.html

edit add: In a direct answer to your question, if I had to work with or around Hillary, I'd probably shoot myself too!

"there is no proof positive one way or the other about Vince Foster"

You could also say that there is no proof positive one way or the other that plane crahes that killed Paul Wellstone & Mel Carnahan were not engineered by the GOP.

The only real fact that can be proven is that he's dead. They are 100% sure about that!

There are just too may inconsistencies about Vince Foster’s death.

Out of curiosity, what do you believe happened to Vince Foster?

Personally, I think he was murdered. Whether the Clintons had anything to do with it or not, I doubt anybody will ever know.

I read that book several years ago and I really don't think he did himself in.

To many inconsistencies in the investigation; the position of the gun is not in keeping with a suicide.

There was not as much blood at the scene as one would expect with a suicide.

Many things lean towards the body being placed there.

Why was his office cleaned out before the investigators got there?

Why did the suicide note turn up a week after the "suicide" in a briefcase that had already been checked?

It's like the Kennedy assassination. I don't think we'll ever know the whole truth.

The book is an interesting read. I recommend it.

I'm really not well versed at all in the subject of Vince Foster, so I'm not prepared to offer an informed opinion.

But a quick search on Christopher Ruddy leaves me unimpressed.

CEO of Newsmax
Finaced by Richard Mellon Scaife

Not exactly where I'd lay any creedence.

http://www.slate.com/id/3016/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_W._Ruddy

Amus, I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination!

I've formed my opinions just from what I've read.

Like I mentioned above, I seriously doubt that we'll ever know the whole truth.

Agreed.

I think it's natural for people to come up with excuses for suicide. But, that's what it was, and I think most rational people accept that as fact.

Out of curiosity, what do you believe happened to Vince Foster?

Hilary pulled the trigger I have NO DOUBT!

Well, at least like a broken clock Trixter is right sometimes.

Bingo, my friend.

Herb

And like a DEFT EXTREME RIGHT EVANGELICAL ZELOT you very seldom listen to FACT!!

I believe you meant daft, not deft.

YES on both posts ME!