http://www.slate.com/id/2182938/

YOU? Seriously?

I'll now use your beloved Hillary quote: "Not so fast".

The Herrbocrite recommends reading Christopher Hitchens in Slate? You hate the guy. Except when it suits your own needs, of course.

You're right, you can't make this stuff up!

Spin on, ham-head.

Oh, and here's a CH article just for the Herrbocrite:

http://www.slate.com/id/2090083/

I don't see anywhere the Clintons have attacked Obama for his race, for his lack of experience yes. His ethics , or lack of them is fair game.
His drug use, when is the last time we elected an admitted criminal?

I never carried water for Mr. Hitchens. Yet leftists want it both ways, for radicals fell in love with Mr. Hitchens when he bashed conservatives.

Now Mr. Hitchens has taken off the gloves and is going after 'Mr. Impeached' himself.

Their attempt to distance themselves from Mr. Hitchens is humourous, particularly whilst he hammers the duplicitous Clintons.

Classic inconsistent socialist spin.

Herb

I'm not distancing myself from Hitchens, Herb. Does that mean that the next time I cite him you'll give him the credibility implied for citing him?

I think he is often spot on. But by no means is he flawless in his conclusions. In fact, the only times I can remember disagreeing with him was when he was going after Republicans. But not BECAUSE he was.

I disagree with Mr. Hitchens plenty. But a broken clock is right twice a day.

And it's very convenient that only NOW Clinton-supporters take shots at him once he calls THEIR guy on the carpet.

Herb

I'll take that as a " no."

"I never carried water for Mr. Hitchens."

No merde, dude. But now suddenly you are.

But "...radicals fell in love with Mr. Hitchens...(now) attempt to distance themselves from Mr. Hitchens..."

Huh? Love? Really? Who? Where? When?

Herrbocrite, who here is a bona-fide 100% Hillary Supporter? Methinks it's just another one of your stupid Look-At-This-Since-The-Emporer-has-no-clothes diversionary threads.

Classic spin, indeed.

Dance, Mailman, Dance!

The deep-rooted problem liberals have in their attempts to distance themselves from Mr. Hitchens is symptomatic of the fractured nature of the democrat party.

For despite the left's 'kum-bah-yah' rheoteric, they continue to fight along race and gender lines....even amongst themselves. This will give conservatives plenty of great video for their coming presidential ads. Nothing beats a leftist calling out another leftist. Mrs. Clinton's criticism of Mr. Obama's lack of being sufficiently extreme enough on abortion is precisely what will turn many voters away in disgust.

And in spite of her stratospherically high negatives, Mrs. Clinton and her husband desperately continue their scorched earth strategy, only worsening the schism. Comparing Mr. Obama to Jesse Jackson was just one inane attempt that has bitten them back. With a serious African-American contender, no longer can the democrat party take that vote for granted, if ever they could.

By continuing to play the class, race and gender warfare game, even the most pandering democrat operatives have sown sufficient bitterness among their oft-disagreeing constituents, who already have opposing agendas, that plenty are likely to either vote differently...or simply refuse to participate at all. The chickens have come home to roost for the left.

As this all plays out, now I'm thinking Laura Ingraham for Supreme Court. She's young, has already clerked in the Supreme Court and would be a great replacement for Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Herb

Herb...
It's time that you take a good hard look at YOURSELF in the mirror......

No shit!

"Nothing beats a leftist calling out another leftist." You are quite right.

In the Democratic party, it's ok to hold one another to the highest standards possible. I like it that way!

Contrast that to rubber stamp, party unity...

If the GOP had even a fraction of that self-correcting freedom to debate, call out, work through ideas nature seen in the Democrats, we wouldn't have seen the (P)resident get away with anywhere near the amount of crap he has.

When an American sees something wrong, they need to be able to speak, and be heard! That happens in the Democratic party, to a much higher degree than seen in the GOP.

Witness the current FISA struggle going on right now. A batch of us know the rule of law trumps the rule of men --and because our party values speech of this kinds, we are completely free to just HAMMER those that don't or won't get it!

The result being we may well succeed in preventing legislation that runs counter to core, vital elements of law; namely, post-facto law is not allowed! It's not allowed because doing so creates a travesty of the law, diminishing it for all of us, and doing harm in the process.

It's circular too, and fallacies do not make good law. Ends do not justify means.

Bottom line is nobody is perfect. We all know this. That's why free and open debate is very important. The first amendment is first for that reason alone!

No President is gonna get it all right. Nobody is above the corruption power brings to the table. That's why we deliberate, watch, critique!

Look at the discussion surrounding the Clintons right now. They are punching below the belt, and just got called on it. That's not to say they haven't done good things --not the point. They can always quit doing the wrong things, start doing the right ones and move on. That's how it is for EVERYBODY.

Contrast that to most of the GOP watching as corruption rules our nation right into the gutter, and you begin to understand exactly why...

Nothing beats a leftist calling out another leftist!

Really, that's one American calling out another one for not doing American things. The GOP could use a little of this --hell, they could use a lot of it!

Which is why I won't vote GOP, until the current corrupt structure is seriously diminished. It's also why I'll entertain primary challengers for those poor Democrats too.

You mistake fractured from checks, balances, and the debate of ideas. Extreme unity may be strong, but it's also very corrupt too. Again, just look at the last 7+ years for that.

Some stuff got done, but the cost was too high for all but a few of us (yeah, that's you Herb) who value an issue over the process and their peers.

"When an American sees something wrong, they need to be able to speak, and be heard!"

Nice try. What in blazes does that have to do with the Clinton's playing the race, gender and class cards? Not much, binky.

Herb

Hey, I think it's dirty pool. I'm in the Edwards camp for now, hoping he will drain Hilary votes, leaving Obama / Edwards to drive things forward.

I was addressing all the "Democrats / leftists" crap you surrounded it with.

It's primary season man. We vet our people, hoping for the best. That's what is happening right now. Once that's done, we then support that person full on.

"The deep-rooted problem liberals have in their attempts to distance themselves from Mr. Hitchens is symptomatic of the fractured nature of the democrat party."

As fractured as the right is in regards to their choice of who will head a losing ticket this fall?

"..this will give conservatives plenty of great video for their coming presidential ads."

Not as much good video as Bush has produced that will be used against the GOP nominee.

"Mrs. Clinton's criticism of Mr. Obama's lack of being sufficiently extreme enough on abortion is precisely what will turn many voters away in disgust."

No, what will turn even more voters away is the prospect of a Bush 2.0 Administration to be headed by TBD. Conservatives will be staying home and holding their noses.

"And in spite of her stratospherically high negatives..."

Not as high as George W. Bush! He blows Hillary away when it comes to high negatives.

"With a serious African-American contender, no longer can the democrat party take that vote for granted, if ever they could."

Last time I checked, the serious black candidate you are referring to is also a Democrat.

"...that plenty are likely to either vote differently...or simply refuse to participate at all."

You are correct in that many will simply refuse to participate, but are wrong to assume those will be Democrats. Maybe you have missed the news that among the caucuses and primaries so far, Democrat voters are FAR outnumbering their conservative counterparts at the ballot box.

"As this all plays out, now I'm thinking Laura Ingraham for Supreme Court."

I don't see a Democrat appointing someone like Laura to the Supreme Court. But, you can dream your dreams, that's all you'll have to hold on to.