Author: Craig_adams Monday, January 21, 2008 - 3:32 am |
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January 21st is OUR day in the Sun. Here's what's on the web about this day and it isn't much: |
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Author: Pdxcoug Monday, January 21, 2008 - 6:23 am |
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Do I qualify as a disc jockey? I do play by play and voice track weekends. To all you real pro's on this board...happy disc jockey day!! |
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Author: Dodger Monday, January 21, 2008 - 6:46 am |
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Are there really any "disc jockeys" anymore? |
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Author: Craig_adams Monday, January 21, 2008 - 7:40 am |
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If anyone is wondering what a Disc Jockey did in the past, look at his hand in the picture below, holding the record as the turntable moved under the felt and the needle most likely in the groove of the record, ready to be played as soon as he let go. It's called a "Slip Cue". One of the reasons you cued up a record this way instead of the quarter turn, was if your turntable was slow at the starting point. |
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Author: Dodger Monday, January 21, 2008 - 8:08 am |
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Thanks Craig that was cool and brings back memories. I am not as old as some here, but I do remember the days of holding that record in place with my finger and then letting her rip because our turntable WAS a bit slow. |
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Author: Hero_of_the_day Monday, January 21, 2008 - 8:23 am |
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The art, now, is what you do when the computer isn't playing anything (i.e. between the songs). Perhaps "disk jockey" isn't the right term anymore. Anybody got an alternative? Should we go with "radio hosts", or "on-air talent"? They just don't seem to have the same kick as DJ. |
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Author: Chris_taylor Monday, January 21, 2008 - 8:54 am |
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I certainly do consider myself a "DJ." All you have to do is ask my listeners. |
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Author: Radi0 Monday, January 21, 2008 - 8:59 am |
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The term DJ seems to apply to people who work clubs and high school dances, now. Any many of them use computers instead of disc, too. |
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Author: Chris_taylor Monday, January 21, 2008 - 9:32 am |
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Yes the term DJ probably does reflect a different time. I still "DJ" plenty of wedding receptions, company functions and the like. I am currently using CD's but am hoping to leap into the all-digital realm for these events sometime this year. |
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Author: Kq4 Monday, January 21, 2008 - 9:47 am |
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"Disk (or Disc) Jockey" probably is still appropriate. We now use Hard Disks and/or Compact Discs, no? |
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Author: Nwokie Monday, January 21, 2008 - 9:49 am |
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Happy DJ day to all you DJ's, |
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Author: Dodger Monday, January 21, 2008 - 10:16 am |
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"This is Jolly Johnny Jamison playing the stacks and stacks of the big song wax!" |
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Author: Nwokie Monday, January 21, 2008 - 10:23 am |
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But I am not a DJ, my one stint, approx 30 minutes on air, did not go well. |
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Author: Darktemper Monday, January 21, 2008 - 10:25 am |
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Happy DJ Day! |
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Author: Alfredo_t Monday, January 21, 2008 - 10:34 am |
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One big difference between the 1959 DJ and the voice-tracked personalities of today is that the DJ of yesteryear was ad-libbing live on the air. He had no way of correcting his mistakes (the use of "he" is intentional here, as most of those DJs were male). Sometime between 1959 and today, ad-libbed banter and the role of being someone considered "an authority in his field" became the domain of talk radio hosts. |
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Author: Chris_taylor Monday, January 21, 2008 - 10:54 am |
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There is still an ad-lib or spontaneous quality to at least the voice tracking my wife and I do. Those of us who do VT often leave in some mistakes, because for one, we all make them and two if the mistake doesn't take away from the bit. |
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Author: Mikel_chavez Monday, January 21, 2008 - 11:51 am |
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Happy DJ Day! |
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Author: Craig_adams Monday, January 21, 2008 - 1:40 pm |
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"Perhaps "disk jockey" isn't the right term anymore. Anybody got an alternative?" |
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Author: Hero_of_the_day Monday, January 21, 2008 - 2:26 pm |
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Mikel, I'm guessing your station is below 92.1 on the FM dial... |
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Author: Jimbo Monday, January 21, 2008 - 2:40 pm |
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"Putting things in perspective, I would imagine that many people in 1959 might have looked at the ad-libbed nature of DJ programs as a degradation of the medium, when compared to the network radio programming of the pre-television era." |
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Author: Mikel_chavez Monday, January 21, 2008 - 2:46 pm |
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HERO, 92.9 Oldies Radio K-DOCK. KDCQ in Coos Bay Oregon. I know, all of this is rare. But our management wants live radio in Coos County. |
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Author: Chris_taylor Monday, January 21, 2008 - 3:16 pm |
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Mikel I love that you are so passionate about radio. That will carry you farther than you know. |
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Author: Kennewickman Monday, January 21, 2008 - 3:55 pm |
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Ya, when you had to slip que a record instead of backing up a quarter turn much of the time was due to the fact that the enginner didnt change the worn puck on the clutch mechanism underneath the turntable top. |
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Author: Craig_adams Monday, January 21, 2008 - 4:28 pm |
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The puck story reminds me of the times when a DJ would shut down the station at midnight, You'd catch hell if you didn't take the turntables out of gear. Leaving them in gear would begin to leave flat spots on the puck, making a bumpy ride for records later. |
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Author: Chris_taylor Monday, January 21, 2008 - 4:40 pm |
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I typically used the slip cue if the the song playing had a hard cold ending and the next song had a cold vocal intro. |
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Author: Queue Monday, January 21, 2008 - 4:43 pm |
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@Craig_adams: Bit Jockey? |
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Author: Kq4 Monday, January 21, 2008 - 6:07 pm |
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All of this "puck talk" reminded me of the good old days at KQIV. Our two Russco Cue-Master turntables each ran well over twelve hours a day, seven days a week for at least three years. In all of that time, I don't recall ever having to re-felt the platters or replace the idlers ("pucks"). 24-hour LIVE radio, baby! Now, those were the days! |
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Author: Semoochie Monday, January 21, 2008 - 7:50 pm |
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I've heard many old time radio shows and the comedy and variety shows were FULL of adlibs! |
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Author: Kennewickman Monday, January 21, 2008 - 10:04 pm |
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Kq4, you had a good crew of DJs who knew how to treat turntables! Thats why you didnt have to change idlers ! Those DJs were probably trained somewhere to neutral the clutch arm each time when not in use. |
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Author: Mikel_chavez Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 8:27 am |
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Ahhhh remember "CUE BURN"? The noisy hissy mini scratches at the begin of a song that was cued and cued again. |
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Author: Kennewickman Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 3:48 pm |
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Ya and on a well used record , you could actually see 'the Marriana trench' scored into the vinyl if you looked at it just right in a bright light. |
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Author: Chris_taylor Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 4:55 pm |
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Software created cue burn. Oh yeah baby we got it all now!! |
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Author: Microbrew Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 5:38 pm |
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"Some big name DJ's in big cities with union contracts did not play the records. They sat in an announce booth with a microphone and the engineer played the records and spots." |
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Author: John_erickson Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 6:41 pm |
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There was something a lot more physically personal about using the old-school tools. Learning how to run a board really well was a challenging prerequisite for succeeding as an on-air talent. There was an artful and complex choreography involved in bringing the elements together into a smooth finished product. That's part of why working at KYA in SF was a surprising disappointment, at least for me. The engineers couldn't run the board half as well as the air staff could. |
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Author: Chris_taylor Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 8:47 pm |
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Totally true John. Jocking a live show was a high. You had total control of everything. |
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Author: Craig_adams Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 9:22 pm |
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Chris: What year were You at KGW answering the request line? |
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Author: Chris_taylor Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 10:39 pm |
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1845 |
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Author: Markandrews Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 12:40 am |
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I'm gonna ask Alexander Graham Bell to confirm that...right after I pick up the mess I made when I dragged half the contents of my desktop with me when I fell on the floor from laughing too hard! |
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Author: Kennewickman Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 10:05 am |
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Ya, and Tom Brooks was using a Morse Code key to do his breaks...OH I forgot, the Telegraph hadnt been invented yet, in 1845...ah that was about 10 years later.... |
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Author: Markandrews Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 10:21 am |
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No wonder I had trouble finding him! |
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Author: Jeffreykopp Friday, January 25, 2008 - 10:05 pm |
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This was posted to another list a week ago, and I figured this thread was a fair place to share it: Denny Sanders gives a six-minute video tour of Cleveland's WMMS in 1976, the freeform FM era: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCESH9eXULg |
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Author: Craig_adams Friday, January 25, 2008 - 11:04 pm |
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Jeffrey: FANTASTIC FIND! If any of you listened to KGON, KQIV, KVAN or KQFM in the 70's, check this out. AOR Format, Records and NO slide board. What a trip back! |
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Author: Randy_in_eugene Friday, January 25, 2008 - 11:22 pm |
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Smoking in the studio and putting his fingerprints on the record grooves, yikes! |
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Author: Entre_nous Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 1:50 am |
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I miss AOR more than I can say. KGON in the 70's was heaven: no doofy morning show letting us "eavesdrop" on their conversation, way cool Dick Sheetz overnight, women in both drive times...no predictable playlist. |
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Author: Markandrews Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:24 am |
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Wow...that WAS a gas! Thanks for sharing the clip. Reallly captured the feel of the day. I could almost smell the vinyl amongst the odor of stale smoke! KGON was a lot like that when they first went on the air...I was down the hall at KYXI. |
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