This is a very solid article on the state of both voter fraud and election fraud matters in New Hampshire.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080116-analysis-new-hampshire-by-the-numb ers.html

This guy has been posting up some pretty darn rational analysis of the voting issues. Two themes he carries on with are worth a mention:

1. The general level of trust in the process is significantly diminished, starting with the 2000 mess.

2. There exists a good chance our 2008 election will be settled in the courts (again).

Both of these combined are bad for all of us, in that our process really does depend on trust. It's lacking with everybody watching and lots of people trying to leverage the changes.

IMHO, that's our big loss right there! Lost in the noise is the actual result and it's trustworthiness.

Also IMHO, this issue has trancended mere matters of who wins, loses, etc... The trust lost, and that being the foundation of the whole works, really is what needs to be addressed, if we are to have any reasonable level of political discourse through the process.

That's an American issue, BTW. Sad, the partisan elements blur that. It needs to be fixed.

Wow!

Some information is coming in already. Here's a summary:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5568

Note, that blog author is now a recognized authority in voting matters. The reporting done there has been solid, complete with corrections / reposts where errors cropped up.


My take?

We won't know who New Hampshire elects this '08 Presidential election, if this primary performance is any indicator.

My take?

We won't know who __insert state here__ elects this '08 Presidential election, if this primary performance is any indicator.

Great finds Doug!

Maybe this isn't the thread to post this in.
But this stuff REALLY pisses me off.

http://wtopnews.com/?nid=213&sid=1293940

I'm no fan of McCain, in fact, his cozying up to Bush after this shit was pulled on him (by this same group) in 2000, is part of why I could never consider voting for him.

The Huckabee campaign has distanced themselves from this group, but not nearly strong enough in my opinion.

If one finds this activity as disgusting as I do, I suggest you tell them so in an E-mail to:

info@commonsenseissues.com & info@trusthuckabee.com

copy:
information@explorehuckabee.com
info@scattorneygeneral.com

Seems as good of a place as any. Spent some time following election matters, off and on, for a while now.

One common theme is the law is only marginally enforced. It's a very similar thing with these kinds of mis-information tactics too.

I fired one off, just on principle.

There is a growing concern with me, that the sloppy nature of things right now is favored by established interests. Perhaps it's been going on far longer than the whole electronic voting / counting bit has, and that maybe that tech switch-up has just highlighted things more than usual.

Worse, the problem is a nasty one. On first blush, one would think stronger regulation is the answer. Higher penalties, registration, etc...

That limits a lot of reasonable speech, and can be circumvented by closed door deals, in a whole lot of cases. Probably a net loss.

Maybe some of that is needed --probably needed.

Really though, I am coming to the realization that the core of it is people either honoring the process or not. If they don't care, for whatever reason (ideology, god greater than law, primary issue matters more than process, not smart enough to know, etc...), it's not gonna work!

We then are left with a polarized environment, and a lot of people willing to just do what it takes for the win.

ugh...

Wow! Looks like SC is imploding!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/19/south.carolina.gop/index.html?iref=newsse arch

More here: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5579

Was hoping to see these primaries run largely trouble free. That's not the case, and just think about the implications for the national elections.

Edit: Just dug through my e-mail archives. WIS Tv was running story on "election machines worked perfectly." I challenged that story, asking for their research that supported "perfectly." They changed the headlines to read, "worked as designed".

Just shot over a coupla e-mails to them, wondering if they wouldn't mind bringing that story up again.