Author: Mickproper Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 10:03 pm |
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This afternoon, I was astounded to hear Dire Straights' "Money For Nothing" on KGON, except it was MISSING THE ENTIRE SECOND VERSE! You know, the one that goes, "That little fa&&ot with the earring and the makeup..." |
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Author: Radionut Friday, January 04, 2008 - 5:19 am |
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I noticed that last week when they played "Take a Walk on Wild Side". They cut out the part about giving head. Kind of ruined the song. |
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Author: 1lossir Friday, January 04, 2008 - 5:32 am |
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Well "the little pansy that's running the station" was probably told by corporate to not jeopardize the station license by playing something that some way-out-there-types would find offensive in this new age of political correctness. |
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Author: Bleedingroid Friday, January 04, 2008 - 6:33 am |
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Just like "Let's Spend The Night Together" by the Rolling Stones had an edited air version with the refrain "let's spend it.... spend it together." |
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Author: Stevenaganuma Friday, January 04, 2008 - 8:44 am |
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Speaking of The Who, check out this video of a 1978 & 2005 concert synchronized. |
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Author: Missing_kskd Friday, January 04, 2008 - 8:55 am |
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Political correctness is for those with no soul. |
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Author: Jimbmiller Friday, January 04, 2008 - 9:03 am |
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the lou reed song would be the 45 version |
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Author: Nwokie Friday, January 04, 2008 - 9:06 am |
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Lets not forget Jimmy Deans "Big John" with "one hell of a man" changed to "One heck of a man". |
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Author: Semoochie Friday, January 04, 2008 - 10:23 am |
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"big, big man..." |
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Author: Skybill Friday, January 04, 2008 - 10:26 am |
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So I wonder if they'll edit Pink Floyd's "Money" where he says bulshi@? |
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Author: Mickproper Friday, January 04, 2008 - 10:37 am |
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I should mention, that I don't so much mind the expurgation, if the artist agrees to it. After all, the "original" Lynard Skynard recorded the classic, "Gimme 3 Steps" with the line, "Wait a minute mister, I didn't even kiss her", while at the same time performing the song live with the lyric, "Wait a minute sucker, I didn't even f@*k her". What I object to, is some corporate hack making the decision for all of us poor peons who can't be trusted to handle the actual lyrics. Kind of like putting a fig leaf on Michelangelo's "David" |
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Author: 1lossir Friday, January 04, 2008 - 11:11 am |
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>>What I object to, is some corporate hack making the decision for all of us poor peons who can't be trusted to handle the actual lyrics. Kind of like putting a fig leaf on Michelangelo's "David" |
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Author: Tadc Friday, January 04, 2008 - 12:40 pm |
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You may recall that the missing verse was never played on the radio when the song was first released(at least to my recollection), I assume because the radio version didn't include it. |
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Author: Randy_in_eugene Friday, January 04, 2008 - 12:52 pm |
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How 'bout we substitute the word "nigger" in place of "faggot?" |
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Author: Trixter Friday, January 04, 2008 - 1:30 pm |
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Blame both the HARDLINE left and the EXTREME RIGHT at the political table. Both have pushed for cleaning up the airwaves of what they find offensive. |
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Author: Mickproper Friday, January 04, 2008 - 2:24 pm |
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"How 'bout we substitute the word 'nigger' in place of "faggot? I would suggest neither are socially acceptable." |
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Author: 1lossir Friday, January 04, 2008 - 3:22 pm |
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>>Well then, why don't we just re-write "Huck Finn", so that he pals up with "African-American Jim"; or even better, re-write the history books, so for instance, our kids can learn that: "Joan D'Arc was led to her execution place; a single post, surrounded by homosexuals" |
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Author: Darktemper Friday, January 04, 2008 - 3:32 pm |
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IMHO, unless the artist recorded the alternate lyrics or gave permission to remove certain lyrics then that music should not be aired in a form not approved by that artist. Most of the edit's are probably supplied by the record label's anyway and the artist probably has no say so in that respect. There is probably some clause in the recording contract that allows for that. I'm no a fan of edited music either. In some cases I would just as soon not here it at all if that's the only airable version. That's what the Zune is for. Ever hear the Pink Floyd tune "Lost For Words"? Huge "F" bomb at the end! Don't think you'll ever likely hear that version on the air and an edit of that lyric/artist would just diminish the tune. |
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Author: Mickproper Friday, January 04, 2008 - 3:54 pm |
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It's not about blindly railing against censorship (although that is certainly a laudable goal), it's about "dumbing down" to the lowest common denominator. After all, "Money for Nothing", "Who Are You?", "Take a Walk on the Wild side" and the like have been good enough in their original forms for 20-30 years, and now, all of a sudden, we're somehow going to be contaminated by continuing to hear it. My original point, is that the word "fa&&ot" in "Money for Nothing" is not being used to actually denigrate gays, but is instead intended to make fun of those who pidgeonhole and label others with those sorts of epithets. Kind of like the use of the "N" word in "Blazing Saddles (which we're also not allowed to hear). |
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Author: 1lossir Friday, January 04, 2008 - 6:23 pm |
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Mickproper - I don't think anyone here is disputing your views on "dumbing down". |
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Author: Newflyer Friday, January 04, 2008 - 8:04 pm |
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I think they should start manufacturing radios with two buttons on them, other than the power and volume controls: |
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Author: Darktemper Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 10:05 pm |
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JHC....If you are offended by the music one station plays then turn the F'n dial till you are not! Censoring a song because a few people are offended is a bunch of crap. |
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Author: Markandrews Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 10:37 pm |
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It may be PC bullroar to you, but a few stations/"personalities" exploited it for several years, and some listeners were outraged enough to press their case. Through a series of various outrageous events, the FCC acted (with a gun to their collective head)... |
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Author: Darktemper Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 11:11 pm |
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Of that I have no doubt and like I said the local people probably have no say in the matter of "Edit's" that must be played instead of the original. My only beef I guess is when the edit detracts from the quality of the original. In those instances maybe better off to not air it instead of angering the purists. Yes it's fine for me to say from this side that it is bullroar but I do sympathize with those on the inside stuck putting up with the politics and trying to put out good programs. Are the restrictions different for say late night shows or is it just that certain songs are on the "FCC" no-play list in their original form forever? |
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Author: Darktemper Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:10 am |
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One question. |
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Author: Entre_nous Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 12:26 pm |
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Here's an idea: Maybe Music Directors can dig a little deeper into their libraries and find songs we haven't heard a million times that don't contain "offensive language" and play them instead! Freshen up the playlist a bunch AND placate the FCC. I know I would love to hear some songs I haven't heard before if I don't own the CD. All of the artists mentioned above have great songs we don't know or haven't heard in years. |
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Author: Darktemper Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 4:34 pm |
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AW, cmon, play tunes that are not, were not in the top forty 30 years ago. Tastes never change and that's all us automotons want you know. Same old same old over and over and over. NOT. That being said, KGON does a pretty decent job on the playlist but needs some tweaking here and there, IMHO of course! |
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Author: Entre_nous Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 7:50 pm |
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OMG, DT, she didn't skip the "E" and I was hoping that song might get in... |
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Author: Entre_nous Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 8:01 pm |
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All of that being said, I have loved this station since I got my first sticker at G.I. Joe's (orange and red sunset with black silhouettes...), it's on at work all day, every day, and I shop at many of it's advertisers. This is my station, just as 62KGW was before I found FM. |
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Author: Entre_nous Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 10:32 am |
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"Money for Nothing" got through unedited on "Flashback" this morning...apparently Bill St. James didn't get the memo, thank goodness! |
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Author: Darktemper Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 1:06 pm |
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Hey Entre_nous, did you catch connect the classics today? The second song ended with and "E" and she took it. Guess what Iris played....... |
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Author: Entre_nous Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 1:45 pm |
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I did, and thank you to all responsible parties I had it at a "nice volume" and the customers were singing along! |
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Author: Darktemper Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 2:03 pm |
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Well, I did make the request last week or so but I botched the pronunciation so I am glad that somebody else had also requested it! Good Stuff. |
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Author: Mc74 Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 10:04 pm |
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Another reason to buy Sirius radio |
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Author: Littlesongs Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 1:31 pm |
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My God, they have a band in regular rotation that was discovered by Bert Kaempfert! It will not be long before Tony Bennett and Bing Crosby are on Connect the Classics. Perhaps when the flip is official, they will call it "Sunny 92" or something. :0) |
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Author: Darktemper Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 2:23 pm |
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Sure would love to hear music from them on the morning drive though. M & B get annoying at times so I mostly listen to my ZUNE on the AM drive. This morning traffic was especially bad and I listened to the entire Scorpions Humanity: Hour 1 on my ZUNE. Caught a few strange looks as I am sure that on more than one tune people heard it through two sets of closed windows. That CD totally Rocks and I wish it would get more airtime on more than one track. |
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Author: Nwokie Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 2:27 pm |
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And there is something wrong with Tony Bennet and Bing Crosby? |
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Author: Littlesongs Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 2:34 pm |
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"...is something wrong with Tony Bennett and Bing Crosby?" |
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Author: Darktemper Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 2:50 pm |
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I heard people sarw Elvis on that UFO down in Texas. |
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Author: Beano Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 3:06 pm |
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Hey Temper, The new Scorpions album is pretty damn solid! Apparently they got a bunch of big name song writers to help write most of their songs- Desmond Child Who wrote most of Bon Jovi's and Aerosmith's 80's songs. |
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