Here's the video link, from C&L:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/11/16/randy-rhodes-speaks-in-detroit-was-cony ers-listening-to-the-kucinichcheney-impeachment-issue/#comments

I absolutely love this woman. She annoys me to no end, but most smart women do. What I like most is her willingness to just put the strong progressive ideas out there, backed by research and regular calls to action.

Not sure I agree with all that was said, but I do absolutely agree with the ideas that we are the government, said government is to "promote the general welfare of the people", and that we currently are not seeing a state of general welfare, and that we can do something about it.

Very American, IMHO.

I find Randy annoying not because she's smart but because she drifts frequently into hyperbole and conspiracy theory. A smart woman on the radio I DON'T find annoying? Rachel Maddow. She seems to "get it" pretty well.

Andrew

I think we agree. Those are exactly the things that annoy me about Randi. PITA really. A little less of that and it would all be golden. Love the passion though. It shows, if jaded at times.

Rachel Maddow is just excellent! Didn't like her at first, but now I get where her sense of humor comes from. Hilarious --and smart as hell. Seldom, if ever, annoyed by her presentations.

I agree, Andrew. As soon as I hear Randi open her mouth, I'm gone. But, as somewhat of a conservative, I actually can listen to Rachel for extended periods! I may disagree with much of what she says, but I still find her intelligent and agreeable, and often funny!

With Randi, you can catch her show for 5 minutes and get the entire gist of her point(s), but then I have to bail on her because of her presentation style and hyperbole. Rachel is maturing nicely as a progressive voice, who came across as a little "above" her audience at first, but has developed a common voice that connects with the listener well. And she's doing better and better on TV too - she visually and aurally gets your attention. Combine that with her youthfulness and she is clearly an up-and-comer in progressive media. I just hope she doesn't get bored with it and do a career shift too soon.

Magic said>>>>
I agree, Andrew. As soon as I hear Randi open her mouth, I'm gone.

Ditto! It's kind of like Insannity's show. The first 10-15 mins and I know what the whole show is going to be about. B O R I N G!

The main thing that drive me nuts about Randi is that she has the facts, and she has the smarts to eviscerate the callers that call in to argue with her.
And instead of giving them the rope, then hanging them with it, she loses it and just shouts them down.

Such a waste!

Actually I like tl listen to Rhodes, she is so funny. She thinks if she says something louder, it makes it more right. And she is so afraid of any argument, she cuts it off.

Say what you want about the conservative talk show hosts, they at least let the opposition speak.

"Say what you want about the conservative talk show hosts, they at least let the opposition speak."

Two words:

Michael Savage

Mark Levin anyone? I find him quite amusing sometimes. At first I thought he was a put-on like Phil Hendrie, but apparently, he's serious. He sounds like a caricature of a liberal's idea of a right-wing talk show host. Sometimes I laugh out loud at him.

Andrew

Lars Larsen does that now? Wow, I guess I haven't listened in a while.

(Even worse: "Dr." Laura)

Her show is still on?

I have no idea...blecchhh!

Nwokie>>>>
She thinks if she says something louder, it makes it more right. And she is so afraid of any argument, she cuts it off.

Plush and Insannity do the same thing! Hewitt too! Saying they don't would just be ignorant....

"Say what you want about the conservative talk show hosts, they at least let the opposition speak."

Nwokie: You must not listen to conservative talk shows.

I put Rhodes in the same category as Larson and Taft and all the other right-wing blowhards who actually make Bill O'Reilly seem fairer.

Extreme left wing and right wing talk show hosts talk to the folks who drink the kool-aid.

Of course, the screeners of these shows are good at picking callers whom they know the host can easily demolish. Many callers are really green not very skillful at arguing their points with an polished talk show host. I'd love to see these talk show hosts debate in a neutral environment where they don't control anything. I recall seeing Al Franken demolish Bill O'Reilly a few years ago at some event and Franken reminding him it wasn't his show so he couldn't tell people to shut up...

Andrew

I saw that, and thought that O'Reilly demolished himself.

I also remember a few years ago, Peter Jennings came to town and was going to appear on Town Hall.

Lars Larson had gone on all week about how he was going to be there confront Jennings and the whole left wing media thing.

As I recall Jennings just totally shut him down and made him look like a fool.

Transcript?