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Author: Chickenjuggler
Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 4:10 pm
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http://news.aol.com/story/_a/lawmaker-sues-god-for-terror-threats/20070918085609 990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

I bet God has a GOOD lawyer.

Author: Darktemper
Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 4:17 pm
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Well, he's smart, he'll probably got one "Devil" of an advocate! HA

Author: Skybill
Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 4:58 pm
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I saw that!

If he looses, he should have to reimburse the court for all it's time and money.

Author: Chickenjuggler
Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:16 pm
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Yes. In fact all non-criminal cases should be done that way. AND the loser pays the other attorneys fees.

Author: Skybill
Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:37 pm
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I agree. It would cut down on the frivolous lawsuits.

Author: Nwokie
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 11:14 am
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Loser pays the others attorney fees. Interesting concept, but what happens if your in an accident and hurt, so you sue the other driver, but he/she is wealthy and hires a very expensive law firm, that gets him/her off.

What your saying, is only the wealthy can go to court, because only they can afford to lose, in those circumstances.

Author: Chickenjuggler
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 11:27 am
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Yes. That's what I am saying Nwokie. I make no stipulations for the system or justice in general. I am ONLY saying that the wealthy can go to court. Yep.

Author: Nwokie
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 11:46 am
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Lets see, you make 30K per year, your hurt, and expenses are 5K. You sue and may get the 5k back, you lose you have to pay 50K for the other guys lawyer, plus your lawyer.
How many people are going to take that chance?

Author: Darktemper
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 12:01 pm
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OK. Then to make this fair if someone is arrested, tried, and found innocent then their expenses should be paid as well.

Author: Nwokie
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 12:06 pm
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If you can prove you were unfairy prosecuted, you can sue now. But lots of guilty people are found not guilty, for lots of reasons.

So in your scenero, OJ could have been reimbursed for his millions in legal expenses.

Author: Darktemper
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 12:15 pm
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Well, let me re-think this.

Civil suits should be under this system not criminal court. There that sounds better! Criminal cases do provide a public defender if you so chose our you can secure you own legal council at your expense.

Author: Nwokie
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 12:22 pm
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OK just specifically civil court, OJ lost his civil suit with the Goldmans. But if he had won, should they have had to pay his attorney fees?

If someone sues Microsoft over a software violation, and loses, should they have to pay the millions Microsoft spends to defend itself in court?

Author: Chickenjuggler
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 12:51 pm
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This is why I said " NON CRIMINAL ", Nwokie.

How about this, the ATTORNEYS have to pay the winners fees. If these lawyers think they have got such a good case, great. Then there shouldn't be any problem wiht them putting their money where their mouth is.

Author: Nwokie
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 12:56 pm
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Your not going to have any atorneys accept a case against a big law firm.

While our system isnt perfect, its the best there is.

What I would support, is have a commission, look at cases, and if it decides a case is frivelous, then award attorney fees.

Author: Chickenjuggler
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 1:00 pm
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OK. Fine. If that's all you'd support - that's all that matters.

The President will be calling you for confirmation soon. Stay near your phone.

Author: Darktemper
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 1:19 pm
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Ok.....
Plantiff sues and loses, he pays their costs.
Plantiff sues and wins 100% deccision, they pay their own.
Plantiff sues and wins 75% decision, he pays 25% of their costs.
Plantiff sues and wins 25% decision, he pays 75% of their costs.
Plantiff sues and wins 50% decision, he pays 50% of their costs.
Plantiffs typically add the amount they exxpect their legal fees to be in with the amount they are suing for so no payout from a defendant to the plantiff for legal fee's other than the awarded settlement.

Does that make sense? I'm brain fried today!

Author: Nwokie
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 1:24 pm
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Remember often the plantiff is suing a big company, so the plantif has fairly reasonable lawer fees, the company may have million dollar fees, because they dont want a recedent set, that their product is bad.

So in your example of 50% the plantif may win 1 million, but if the other side spent 3 million on defense, the plantif would have to pay 1.5 million.

I know there are problems with our system, but its still the best in the world.

Author: Roger
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 1:25 pm
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... and yet think how much simpler life would be without attorneys and insurance...........

Notice I said simpler. Not practical, but simpler.

Author: Darktemper
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 1:26 pm
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Ya...bag that, stupid idea. But there needs to be some method for eliminating bogus lawsuits. I know.....make the lawyers pay!

Author: Nwokie
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 1:28 pm
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I like my suggestion, a commission, that looks at lawsuits, and if they decide its bogus, they can award damages.

Maybe we can go back to settling issues with a sword, or .45 at 20 paces.

Author: Chickenjuggler
Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 7:51 pm
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/09/20/suing.god.ap/index.html


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