http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070917140851.yub7uk0l&show_article=1

Better re-think your candidates, liberals...you're going to need a tough on terror candidate. Even the French have wised up.

Herb

Excellent! This is EXACTLY the kind of step I was wanting to hear from a country that is actually at risk.

If you're talking about a "tough on terror" candidate like the current idiot in office, no thanks. It's been proven that his policy has done nothing but lead to more terrorism, more death, and more money down the drain.

Secondly, let the French deal with them if they're so inclined. They and the rest of Europe live a lot closer to Iran than we do. Let them police their own neighborhood. They have more at stake than we.

Vitalogy will need some oxygen while his head is in the sand. Can anyone help?

Appeasement didn't work with Neville Chamberlain and it won't work now. It only emboldens the bad guys.

The GOP's odds for 2008 have just gone up significantly. Americans want a strong on terror candidate.
Herb

Deane, you should hit the comedy circuit, you're not fully utilizing your talents.

>>>"Deane, you should hit the comedy circuit, you're not fully utilizing your talents."

Damn, and I thought this was that circuit.

The Frenchies are gonna make Little Lord Fontleroy look like a fool if their strategy works!

Deanne said: Vitalogy will need some oxygen while his head is in the sand. Can anyone help?

Sand??? This is more like it;

http://www.gambino.com/funstuff/obvious.htm

Author: Chickenjuggler
Monday, September 17, 2007 - 4:10 pm

Excellent! This is EXACTLY the kind of step I was wanting to hear from a country that is actually at risk.

Oui! Oui!

Sky said>>>>>
Deanne said: Vitalogy will need some oxygen while his head is in the sand. Can anyone help?

Sand??? This is more like it;

http://www.gambino.com/funstuff/obvious.htm

Looks a little like ol' DUHbya now doesn't it....

"This is EXACTLY the kind of step I was wanting to hear from a country that is actually at risk."

Earth to chickenjuggler. If Iran has nukes, we're all at risk. Ever hear of a suitcase nuke, or one planted in a cargo container?

Herb

Herb and DJ are also buried in the sand. Fortunately, it's only up to their ankles. Unfortunately (for them), they're buried head first.

"Earth to chickenjuggler. If Iran has nukes, we're all at risk. Ever hear of a suitcase nuke, or one planted in a cargo container? - Herb"

That's a strong indictment against Homeland Security, Herb. Are you saying our current government is not doing a good job of keeping us safe? If we were checking every single cargo container and flight coming into the U.S. - as we should be - then you could check this fear off of your list.

"Americans want a strong on terror candidate."

Unfortunately, that strong on terror candidate will not bear an "R" by their name.

"Ever hear of a suitcase nuke."

I don't watch "24". It's fiction, just like a lot of your beliefs.

Man Herb, I thought we were on the same page there for 2 seconds.

France is doing something good...I thought. Should I be disagreeing with them on this? Please, keep telling me what to think and how to feel. It feels so good.

"Ever hear of a suitcase nuke."

I don't watch "24". It's fiction, just like a lot of your beliefs.

You are correct. 24 is fiction.

However if you think that a small nuclear device could not be made to fit in a small roll around suitcase or something a bit smaller, then you are very naive. If someone could actually obtain all the materials required to build one is anybody’s guess.

Don't think for a minute that some whacko fanatic wouldn't try and pull it off for his chance to hook up with the 70 virgins. I'll bet they all look like Hillary, Janet Reno and Madeline Albright! (The virgins, that is)

And all the women are thanking their lucky stars that the guys don't look like DUHbya, The DICKster and Rove......
Rove naked...
I just threw up in my mouth... A BUNCH!

I don't often think of guys naked, but I'd probably throw up too!

In fact I keep my eyes closed when I take a shower just so I don't have to see! If my belly gets any bigger I'll have to take a bath because my feet won't get wet with a shower!

But you gotta admit it. Those 3 could scare the white off rice!

"Are you saying our current government is not doing a good job of keeping us safe?"

Yeah, because of the ACLU. They're the Einsteins who have fought against wire-tapping, searches and fighting terror.

Herb

Likes like a King blaming the court jester for his failures. Only in this case the court jester is the king so the only one to point blame at is himself. Laugh Clown, LAUGH!

There are nukes that will fit in a trunk, as there are nukes that fit inside a 155 MM round. However, they are transported in larger, very heavy shilded containers. If you take it out of the container, and carry it for a while, you will start to glow in the dark.

That reminds me of gen Curtis Lemay (should of had 5 stars), his plan to explode very dirty, small nukes along the S Vietnamese border, when asked about it, he replied, well, if it doesnt kill them all, at least they will glow in the dark.

Herr Herb said>>>
Yeah, because of the ACLU. They're the Einsteins who have fought against wire-tapping, searches and fighting terror.

And are defending Herr Craig aka "Tap Dancer"... How far the EXTREME RIGHT has fallen....

A suitcase nuke ain't gonna happen. It's straight out of science fiction and you dumbasses fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

Ok, leftist Einsteins:

http://www.nationalterroralert.com/suitcasenuke/

You want to risk your own lives, that's your deal. Just don't take us down with you with your soft on terror positions.

Herb

You ever see the movie "The Peacemaker". Not knowing nukes is it possible that a rouge nuke from russia be dismantled in that manner and the payload package carried in a backpack as depicted in that movie? Is this just not posible and made for movie stuff or is this possible but most likely improbable?

Herb, there's a cost and a benefit to our actions, and I believe the cost to invade Iran compared to the benefit of not worrying about a suitcase nuke is not worth it. We already see how the cost/benefit analysis has worked out in Iraq. If you stay up at night worrying about stuff like this, you are paranoid and should seek help.

If you have better solutions for Iran, please weigh in.

But if you're gonna go the internationalist route as is the wont of so many liberals, the UN ain't gonna cut it. It couldn't cut it in Bosnia, it couldn't cut it in Darfur, it couldn't cut it in Iraq and it sure as heck ain't gonna cut it in Iran.

Teddy Roosevelt said it best. Walk softly and carry a big stick.....especially when you're defending against nuclear terror.

Herb

So with that approach:

Setup multinational economic sanctions with carriers sitting off of their coastline.

Sanctions = walking softly
Carriers = Big Frickin Stick

If the sanctions fail then bash em with the stick!

It's at least worth the effort to try them and then have a plan also in place in case they choose to ignore them.

So correct me if I am wrong, but Herb, you are suggesting that a winning campaign platform on which Democrats should run, would be that The United States needs to attack Iran? That's what America wants in Democrats?

And Nwokie, I am laying down a challenge to you;

On your next post in this thread, I want to see you type out at least 5 lines of text, in one post, in this thread, saying whatever you want to say, that doesn't have one single grammatical or spelling error. It has to be perfect in all ways. ( Content won't be judged. Form will ). Just once. If you do it, I will donate 25 dollars to this website. It's not that I am being the spelling police. I just want to know that you can do it - once. Heck, I'll even toss in a donation of 10 bucks to the cause of your choice.

Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.

There 5 sentences typed with no errors. You have any idea how many times I had to type that in 11th grade typing?

"There 5 sentences typed with no errors. You have any idea how many times I had to type that in 11th grade typing?"

Well ok. I'll honor the letter of the challenge. Even though when it came to expressing your own thoughts, after reciting the same line 5 times, you fell back a few grades.

Name your charity. The 25 dollar donation to pdxradio has been made.

Now hold the phone there. How do you know he didn't type it once and copy and paste it 4 other times?

"Teddy Roosevelt said it best. Walk softly and carry a big stick....."

No, my friend, that is not what he said.

What he actually said was, "Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far."

You know what else he said?

"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/life/quotes.htm

Littlesongs that needs to be read in church sanctuaries across this country.

And President roosevelt, when he wanted to send the "White" fleet around the world, as a show of American power, After speaker Cannon refused to let congress appropriate the money. he told his Secretary of the navy, we have enough money to send them half way, go ahead, then we will see if congress will appropriate the money to bring them home.

And, before Panama revolted from Columbia, the US sent a warship to Panama with instruction, if there was a revolution, to recognize the new government of Panama.

I say impose the Monroe Doctrine on Iran.

Herb

What does " internationalist route " mean?

The internationalist route is going with the ineffectual, hyper-political, politically correct and impotent UN.

Herb

So you aren't opposed to nations coming together - a coalition, if you will - just not under the umbrella of The United Nations. Right? Or, in fact, are you actually saying that we, The United States, should do this all alone?

The whole idea of the UN, while oft noble, is fatally flawed.

To expect a group of disparate countries, with different customs, languages, religions, histories, and interests to agree on much, is asking a bit much.

It's lowest common denominator politics. Besides, what soldier would be willing to die for the UN? God and/or country, maybe. But for the UN?

If countries want to band together, fine. I simply don't place much faith in the UN. Read the book of Revelation if you want to know about global governance.

Herb

Guys, the UN is an anti-American, left wing, dishonest and corrupt, ineffective organization. Now, what is it we think they can do for us?

Looks like Herr Herb tap danced around the ACLU/Craig issue...
WOW!
It's crazy how far the EXTREME RIGHT has fallen...

I kinda agree with Herb. The UN in and of itself of so bogged down in red tape and personal agenda that we are better off seeking co-operative countries to join forces with and bypass the UN when action needs to be taken and time is of the essence. The UN drags things out to long and then by that time it is often so late in the game that it just costs more lives or resources to correct the problem.

I am not a fan of the UN as it stands today! Could be just another relic from the Cold War days that needs dismantling.

I don't think I tap danced around anything. I've been with my son at the hospital all day and haven't been following it.

I'm not sure what the ACLU's position in this would be, but I seriously question the constitutionality of what they did to him. There is nothing illegal about taping your foot and reaching you hand down under a stall. Certain people may regard it as a signal for something, but doesn't this get a little close to prevention of free speech and expression. They didn't do anything did they? I think this sting business is getting very dangerously close to "thought police".

By the way, how did Larry Craig and the ACLU get into this thread. Is there another devoted to the topic?

DJ said>>>
I don't think I tap danced around anything. I've been with my son at the hospital all day and haven't been following it.

Unless YOUR Herr Herb I never said YOU in my statement above....
Hope your son get's better..

Here's your answer, Trixter:

Craig and the ACLU: A marriage made in hades.

Herb

And people like Craig represent your group all too often. Enjoy!

>>>"Unless YOUR Herr Herb I never said YOU in my statement above...."

Right you are, I'm losing it.

My only question: Which one is the bride in that marriage made in hades...Craig or the ACLU?

Herb

Another question: What's their first dance as a couple?

I flew into MSP yesterday.

I think I know why BJ's are popular there.

It's called the Humphry (hump-free) terminal!!

Ba-Da-Boom!

I think you need to get your mind out of the toilet (stall)!

First dance? 'Dude Looks Like a Lady', of course!

Hopefully not 'Muskrat Love' (from the other side of the board)

Alas,

The "incident" took place in the Lindbergh terminal not the hump-free terminal.

So my terrible PUN falls apart.

I was so enjoying this discussion, oh well.