http://www.worldnetdaily.com/staticarticles/article57498.html

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2007/8/26/if-once-wasnt-good-eno ugh.html


Herb

"and she believes the Clintons were behind it."

C'mon Herb. This is just crap.

It's ALL Slick Willy's fault!!!
The Fin sky is falling!!!
Osama and Slick Willy caused 9/11!!!!
DUHbya wouldn't be so stupid if it wasn't Slick Willy's fault!
THE SKY IS fin FALLING!!!!!
And it's ALL Clinton's fault!

It's ALL Slick Willy's fault!!!
The Fin sky is falling!!!
Osama and Slick Willy caused 9/11!!!!
DUHbya wouldn't be so stupid if it wasn't Slick Willy's fault!
THE SKY IS fin FALLING!!!!!
And it's ALL Clinton's fault!

Works for me!

Most neo-CONers would s think so....

THE SKY IS Fin FALLING!

That would be fish falling from the sky?

Fin.

Or maybe archery arrows or darts!

Incoming! Lawn darts!

BlowDarts dipped in Curare!

hahahahahahah blowdarts good one dt

THE SKY IS FALLING!
FIRE!
WOLF!
Or whatever YOU EXTREMEIES scream on a daily basis.

Here ya go Herb.......have a look!

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/nixon.jpg

Did you know that photo is the most requested reprint item from the National Archives? Love it! I had it up on my desk at work.

Geez, NIXON could have used a bit of makeup that day.

The Prez & The King.

Herb

Well......who do you think we wrote "Jailhouse Rock" for! HA

Both of them!

President Nixon definatly made a few mistakes, but its interesting how the libs still treat Kennedy considering how much has come out about him. He probably stole an election, showed total lack of guts in giving in to the Russians over the cuban missile crisis, went back on his word during the bay of pigs, treated the white house typing pool as his personal harem, etc.

Perhaps its because Kennedy is DEAD!


(Mainstream society isn't gonna spend the time to check out your claims. We've far bigger problems to worry about.)

Aw, Nwokie, you know the Kennedy's are the socialist's holy grail.

But Ted Kennedy's car killed more people than all of Guantanamo.

Herb

"showed total lack of guts in giving in to the Russians over the cuban missile crisis..."

Ummm well why is it then that Khruhschev backed off and took the missiles out of Cuba? Kennedy backed down? Seems like ol' Nikita blinked first, sir.

Ah, we took our missiles out of turkey, and there was no verification the missiles in Cuba were removed, we just took their word for it.

Last time I checked, Cuba was still a communist country.

If Mr. Kennedy had indeed prevailed, Cubans would be free, 48 years later. Instead, the Cuban people have been sentenced to half a century of impoverished existence with no freedom of speech and hostility toward freedom of assembly and worship.

Yeah, go ahead and defend the indefensible. When Cuba is indeed free, you'll see how truly pathetic Mr. Kennedy's failure was. Mr. Kennedy may have been a nice guy, but to defend this abysmal failure is a sick joke.

Herb

Her said>>>
But Ted Kennedy's car killed more people than all of Guantanamo.

WHAT THE HELL??? More lies from the lying liar...

Maybe Bush should invade and topple that countries government also. I'll bet he's slobbering for a good Havanna right now!

Herr Herb loves Castro! Their tight....

Kennedy prevented World War III didn't he? He prevented total annihilation didn't he? Say what you want, and I am NOT talking about the Bay of Pigs or Cuba being Communist ... I am talking about a point that Nwokie brought up, that being that Kennedy failed during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and I pointed out the other side.

That is like saying that George Bush Sr.'s actions during Desert Storm were failed because he "failed to finish the job" when the job was completely fulfilled, and that was to get Saddam out of Kuwait. Kennedy wasn't seeking to oust Castro, he was simply seeking to get the missiles out of Cuba ... and it worked, didn't it?

"Ted Kennedy's car killed more people than all of Guantanamo."

Prove me wrong, Trixter. Put up.

Herb

"Kennedy prevented World War III didn't he."

Russia didn't have the cajones to risk going nuclear against the US. They knew they were outgunned.

Herb

"Russia didn't have the cajones to risk going nuclear."

Did you REALLY want to find out otherwise? Do you REALLY think that?

Maybe they were just smarter than you give credit. WWIII.....no winner...everone dies.....

We had far better nukes, more nukes and better delivery systems.

We called their bluff. Yet when Mr. Reagan saved eastern Europe, the left blows it off.

Herb

They had bigger nukes. and many more. A war would have been bad for both sides, but Kruschief(sp) got what he wanted , our missiles out of Turkey. We may have gotten missiles out of Cuba, but by negotiating, Kennedy renounced the Monroe Doctrine which had been around for over a hundred years.

Weren't those missles obsolete and due to be de-commissioned in a couple of years anyway?

No, those were the most modern intermediate range missiles the soviets had at the time.

Herb-Interesting you should use the phrase "blows it off" as part of a nuke post.

Ted Kennedy's car killed more people than ___________ (insert whatever here).

Ooooh! We haven't heard this one for a while!

Herrball trotskys out another one of his zingers for a repeat repeat repeat repeat performance.

HerrB still lives in 1961, and is just jealous that Nixon never got a "Happy Birthday Mr. President" from a hottie like Marilyn Monroe.

Don't forget, Laura Bush killed just as many people with her car, so they're dead even on the body count. And she wasn't even drunk (that we know of).

Drive on!

Ted Kennedy's car killed more people than ___________ (insert whatever here).

My Guns.

Sorry! I had to do it!

Herb: "We called their bluff. Yet when Mr. Reagan saved eastern Europe, the left blows it off."

Reagan? It was the war in Afghanistan that bankrupted the Soviet Union. They were fighting insurgents as well. Bush is trying to following their path.

Sorry, Skybill, while true, Herrball has the copyright, trademark, and exclusive rights to any and all usage of his tired ol' chestnut.

For your own well-being, please delete your post before he sees it and goes all Paris Hilton on your ass and sues you like she's suing Hallmark cards.

Or, just arm and guard your fort, the ACLU may come a knockin' for him.

It wasnt the war in Afghanistan that bankrupted the soviet union, they never had more than a couple of divisions and a couple fighter wings there, + some special forces. It was the cost associated with trying to keep up with "star wars' that bankrupted them.

Since you brought it up......What is the current status of that "Spruce Goose"?

Herr Herb said>>>>
Ted Kennedy's car killed more people than all of Guantanamo."

Prove me wrong, Trixter. Put up.

Prove YOURSELF right....
NOBODY has died in Gitmo? NOBODY??? If you believe that I've got a working ranch in TexASS that's for sale.

Classic Trixter move.

Ask for facts, and he can only give you the leftist avoid-the-question shuffle.

Herb

I'm asking for FACTS Herr Herb...
WHERE ARE THEY???

Keep it up Herr Herb... YOUR the reason America is moving AWAY from EXTREME thinking!
You can't make this shit up!

Wait a minute.

You call me a liar.
I say show me.
You call me a liar.
I say show me.

Since you've stonewalled far more than Mr. Nixon could have, let me help you:

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/congress/?q=node/77531&id=7356370

And to help you out a little bit more, here's an excerpt:

"The International Red Cross observes the entire facility and has access to all of the prisoners to talk to them on a one-on-one basis. There have been no deaths in Guantanamo. And you know, in prisoner-of-war camps in the past, Americans have died. Back in the war between the States, thousands of prisoners, Confederate and Union soldiers died. In Vietnam, about 9 percent of the Americans in custody there died. In Korea, about 30 percent. In World War II, we know that about 40 percent of Americans in custody in Japan died, all in prisoner-of-war camps, and not one person has died in these."

So, Trixter.
It is far more dangerous to ride in Mr. Kennedy's car than a stay at Guantanamo.
Who's the liar, Trixter?

Herb

Herb, if given the choice of riding in Kennedy's car or staying at Gitmo INDEFINITLEY, we all know what choice you'd make.

HYPOCRITE!!

Compare the treatment of Americans held by the insurgents/terrorists.

"...if given the choice of riding in Kennedy's car or staying at Gitmo INDEFINITLEY, we all know what choice you'd make."

No you don't know.

And Mary Jo Kopechne would have chosen Guantanamo in a heartbeat. That's because thanks to Senator Kennedy's tragic actions, she no longer has a heartbeat.

Herb

Ted Kennedy's;

New law firm: Dickem and Dunkem.

New campaign slogan: A blonde in every pond.

Least favorite song: Bridge Over Troubled Waters

Bada boom!

There's no guarantee that you would be killed riding in Kennedy's car, yet there is a 100% guarantee that you would be held in Gitmo indefinitely and without the right to a trial.

Again, you're a hypocrite. You'd ride Kennedy's car in a heartbeat versus going to jail without due process.

Mighty fast on the name-calling...the last refuge when one has no argument. You and Trixter should form a group.

Herb

Herb, you're a hypocrite. That's not name calling, it's an observation.

And I'll remind you of your name calling accusation next time I see you use the terms socialist or leftist to further prove your hypocrisy.

You can't make this stuff up!

Give us a better description than 'socialist' when one embraces the ideology of socialism as many on this board are wont to do.

These include many on the democrat's party platform:

Government health care.
Jobs for all.
Mandated child care.
Government-subsidized housing.

Be thankful that I usually reserve the term commie largely for Castro and his ilk.

Herb

How do you feel about the following socialist programs:

Police
Fire
Education
Military
Search and Rescue
Dept of transportation

The list goes on.

How do you feel about the following socialist programs:

Police
Fire
Education
Military
Search and Rescue
Dept of transportation

Those are not socialist programs.

Those are the services that the Government is supposed to provide and I am glad to have my tax dollars go for. With the exception of education. I don’t have an issue with taxes going for the schools. However, if I’m not happy with the way and what my kids are learning in the Government (pronounced Public) Schools, then I should have the freedom to put my kids where I want and my tax dollars should follow.

What I'm not happy about my tax dollars going for are (as in socialist programs):

Government subsidized health care.
Government subsidized baby murdering. (i.e.: tax dollars going to Planned Parenthood)
Subsidizing someone's ride to work. (Busses and Loot Rail)
Social (In)Security. Let me have my money to do with it as I see fit.

As you say; the list goes on.

Other than the essential Government responsibilities, EVERYTHING else should be left to private industry.

It would save us taxpayers tons of money and it would be done better.

Yep, leave it to the private industry and what you get is Enron and Halliburton like companies that saved you money and got the job done better. NOT!

And you know what Skybill, your ride to work is government subsidized as well. It's called the Dept of Transportation.

i{And you know what Skybill, your ride to work is government subsidized as well. It's called the Dept of Transportation.}

Cool. How do I get them to make my car payment, Insurance payment and pay for my gas?

Highways and roads and the associated infrastructure are the Government's responsibility. We all pay for the roads and their maintenance.

What I object to is subsidizing the guy that makes $100K bus/loot rail ride to work. That should be private industry. If it costs $10 to haul someone from Gresham to downtown Portland or from Camas to Vancouver, then that's what it should cost them to ride.

Your turn.

It wouldn't be so bad if the money we spend for gasoline taxes actually funded roads.

However in this socialist haven called Oregon, they spend much of it instead on boondogles like light rail and bike lanes.

And amen to you, Skybill on your pointing out planned parenthood's subsidized baby killing.

Herb

Our family enjoys those bike lanes.

So Herr Herb...
WHY is there such a call to close Gitmo down?? It's such a good place and NOBODY has ever been killed there??? Why is there such a call to close it down??

Because the left knows that every success Mr. Bush accomplishes is a big problem for them. Guantanamo was an effective manoevre to get intel from terrorists.

http://thehill.com/byron-york/dems-real-big-problem-2007-08-03.html

'many Democrats “have anticipated that, at best, Petraeus and U.S. ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker would present a mixed analysis of the success of the current troop surge strategy, given continued violence in Baghdad.” But now, the Post continued, “there have been signs that the commander of U.S. forces might be preparing something more generally positive.”

And that, Clyburn told the paper, would be “a real big problem for us."'

Herb

Herb said>>>
Because the left knows that every success Mr. Bush accomplishes is a big problem for them.

If I'm NOT mistaken I think some Republican DUHbya ass kissers where on the CLOSE GITMO bandwagon....

Herb said>>>
'many Democrats “have anticipated that, at best, Petraeus and U.S. ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker would present a mixed analysis of the success of the current troop surge strategy, given continued violence in Baghdad.” But now, the Post continued, “there have been signs that the commander of U.S. forces might be preparing something more generally positive.”

That's why in his speech he TALKS about drawing down AND removing troops from Iraq with NO replacements!!!!