Al Gore would have been a bad president.

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Author: Digitaldextor
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 5:20 pm
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Many assume that if Al Gore were President today, our country would be a lot better off.

The article below, makes the case that Gore would have been a very bad president. He has the experience to be president. Unfortunately the he lacks a “presidential temperament”. Gore is “Rather, he is rigid, dogmatic, partisan, lacking in proportion and balance, and hostile to give-and-take.”

As the article points out Gore is not a natural politician like Clinton. He was forced into politics by his parents. He doesn't have the "feel" for politics.

Be grateful Gore is not president.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_8_52/ai_61604296/print

Author: Missing_kskd
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 5:23 pm
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Attack where weak:

"Rather, he is rigid, dogmatic, partisan, lacking in proportion and balance, and hostile to give-and-take."

Sounds like the one we have now!

You are ok with that right?

No worries about Gore then.

Author: Andrew2
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 6:10 pm
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DD writes:
Many assume that if Al Gore were President today, our country would be a lot better off.

If Winky were president today instead of the Occupant, our country would be a lot better off. Even small children and household pets know that.

The fact that Gore was intelligent, informed about the world, and experienced in many areas of policy (including the Military, having served in it) would have made him infinitely better than Bush. It seems very likely that after September 11th (assuming Gore ignored terrorism before then like Bush did - unlikely) would have not only moved into Afghanistan but would have actually pursued the people who attacked us on 9/11, not go after the wrong guy like Bush did. Moreover, he surely would have insisted on some kind of meaningful sacrifice like bringing energy efficiency to America to wean us off of Middle East oil, not just tell people terrorism can be defeated without the slightest sacrifice on their part.

Andrew

Author: Amus
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 6:46 pm
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What a load!

Author: Skeptical
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 7:29 pm
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(The first post made by DD was obviously made in haste and is completely incorrect. The following is a post that is factually correct.)

Many know that because George W. Bush is President today, our country is NOT a lot better off.

Overwhelming compelling evidence today makes the case that Bush is a very bad president. He had no experience to be president. Further, Bush lacks a “presidential temperament”. Bush is rigid, dogmatic, partisan, lacking in proportion and balance, and hostile to give-and-take.

Clearly Bush is not a natural politician like Clinton. Bush was forced into politics by his parents. He doesn't have the "feel" for politics.

Its too bad for us that Bush is president.



http://www.GOP-BS.com/because/I/say/so/html

Author: Stonewall
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 7:38 pm
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I was hoping someone would defend poor Algore. I've made a bet that he's going to go for the Democrat nomination next year. Is there anything about him worthy of note?

Author: Trixter
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 7:42 pm
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Dead Fish

Author: Stonewall
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 7:55 pm
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And, if, or as I believe he does go for it, who would be his preferred Vice-Presidential candidate. I'm torn between it being Rosi O'Donnel, and Michael Moore.

Or, is Algore in actuality really Michael Moore. If it weren't for the ball cap....has anyone ever seen them together? Inquiring minds want to know.

Author: Andrew2
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 8:07 pm
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Stonewall writes:
I was hoping someone would defend poor Algore. I've made a bet that he's going to go for the Democrat nomination next year. Is there anything about him worthy of note?

No - he's intelligent, honest, and a visionary. As president, he'd make wise choices for America. And that would be a disaster for the Republican Party. No, nothing to like at all. At ALL.

Andrew

Author: Stonewall
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 8:28 pm
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Supporters of the Hillary, Hussein, and all the rest trying for the job would make the exact same claim. I was hoping for something outstanding in Algore's resume, or at least something he'll be able to point to as making him a better choice for the Democrat party than the rest of the herd. Positions, ideas, etc.

Author: Digitaldextor
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 9:57 pm
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"The fact that Gore was intelligent, informed about the world, and experienced in many areas of policy.."

Andrew, that also would apply to Richard Nixon. He's one the bad U.S. presidents.

Skeptical, my link is real. You made up yours.

Author: Andrew2
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 10:14 pm
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DD writes:
Andrew, that also would apply to Richard Nixon. He's one the bad U.S. presidents.

Well, you'll have to work that one out with Herb. But, those were good qualities of Nixon's for sure. Many scholars consider Nixon to be a great foreign policy president still. Only he had this weakness of corruption and dishonesty. Had it not been for Watergate (and Nixon's own behavior in creating the circumstances that led to it, even though I doubt he knew about the actual break-in), Nixon might still be considered one of America's best presidents.

Andrew

Author: Skeptical
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 11:23 pm
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"Skeptical, my link is real. You made up yours."

Perhaps so, but my post was based on fact, your quote was an assumption.


http://www.KarlRove.com/My/Pants/Are/On/Fire

Author: Digitaldextor
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 11:39 pm
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Here is one of the five points in the article why Gore would have been a bad president.

2) Not a natural politician.

A politician? A born politician, Bill Clinton accepts the din of the process and even enjoys it. Gore, an unnatural politician, pushed into the field by his ambitious parents, shows no feel for the process at all. Discussion and dissent are treated as treason. Opponents are seen, not as citizens to be won over, but as blood enemies to be destroyed. Dealing with others has not been Gore's forte. In Congress, he seldom wrote laws with others, but held hearings to showcase himself. In the Clinton administration, the difference was obvious. Clinton, says Bill Turque, "took dispute and debate in stride, but Gore, once dug in, often became defensive and dismissive, flashing his 'Gore glare' across the table at those who displeased him." One who displeased him was Ward Connerly, who recalls in his book Creating Equal a meeting that he and his anti-quota allies had with Gore and Clinton in 1998. Clinton was cordial, perhaps insincerely, while Gore "sat stiff as his stereotype, his mouth compressed into a disapproving slit, and his eyes boring holes into those of us whose ideas he found most distasteful."

Author: Skybill
Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 12:59 am
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The title of this thread says it all.

No discussion required!

Author: Chickenjuggler
Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 1:08 am
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Or thought. It all fits on a bumper. That's good enough.

Author: Skybill
Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 1:10 am
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Chickenjuggler, I see I'm not the only crazy one up this late!!!

Author: Chickenjuggler
Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 1:18 am
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Here's how nuts I am: I just returned from Hawaii - I'm a little amped. But yes, I do not deny my night owlnish.

Author: Andrew2
Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:18 am
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DD writes:
Here is one of the five points in the article why Gore would have been a bad president.

2) Not a natural politician.


Oh, yes, by all means, most Americans put "being a natural politician" at the top of their list of what they seek in a president...

Andrew

Author: Vitalogy
Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 9:01 am
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George Bush is a disaster. Mickey Mouse would have been a better president than the current rube we're stuck with.

Talk about revisionist history!

Author: Digitaldextor
Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:50 am
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Skybill and Chickenjuggler, if you don't want to comment on the thread I created, that's fine. But its trolling to use it for your private conversation.

If you both want to have a private conversation use Email.

Author: Chickenjuggler
Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 1:29 pm
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Mahalo, but no. I wasn't trolling. Just saying Aloha back to someone that was up late too.

Lighten up, Francis.

Author: Digitaldextor
Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 3:03 pm
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"Lighten up, Francis."

That is a line from the movie Stripes starring Bill Murray.

Author: Missing_kskd
Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 3:10 pm
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Good movie too.

IMHO, expresses the sentiment perfectly.

Author: Chickenjuggler
Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:06 pm
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And if any of you homos touch my stuff...I'll kill ya.

Author: Mrs_merkin
Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 11:45 pm
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I'd like the Aunt Jemima Treatment, please.

And DD, if you want to keep your "creations" private, just remember to lock the bathroom door. Flush. Flush again. Light match.

Author: Littlesongs
Monday, August 20, 2007 - 2:39 am
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There she was just a-walking down the street...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Wah_Diddy_Diddy

Author: Roger
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 6:55 am
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Ooop, gotta get a better job so I can start saving up to buy some of those carbon credits.

How come every time I see big Al, he's getting into or out of a Caddilac Escalade? Quit warming the planet Albert.

Author: Trixter
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 9:25 am
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Al Gore like so MANY other Politicians are hypocrites.
Al Gore is a dead fish and should stick to his Global Warming miss-mash and edubacate the masses of asses instead of throwing his hat back in the ring. Lord knows the Midwest and South needs more edubacation

Author: Herb
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 9:26 am
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On that, Trixter, we are agreed.

Herb

Author: Trixter
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 9:28 am
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WOW!
You have some sense in that EXTREME RIGHT nobody is right but me attitude.
You just brought a tear to my eye knowing that your human underneath all that hate.

Author: Herb
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 9:32 am
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The only one who hates around here is the one who calls Bible-believers nazis.

Herb

Author: Trixter
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 9:34 am
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And the small pathetic human that thinks he is right about everything.
Thanks for being right on cue Herb.

Author: Herb
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 9:36 am
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Admit it, Trixter.

You constantly bash Bible-believing Christians as extreme and call them Nazis.

Don't like it when your prejudice is exposed?

Herb

Author: Trixter
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 9:39 am
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Bible bash??
EXTREME BIBLE BASHER yes!
EXTREME! Like YOURSELF!
NO tolerance for anyone who might think different.
This is AMERICA Herb. You can think as you wish.
Get over it or move to Cuba.

Prejudice?? That's your smear Herb! That's what you do.... YOUR true colors have come out in many ways.

Author: Amus
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:16 am
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Anybody get the idea that Trix & Herb would be best buddies if they ever met in person?

Author: Herb
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:19 am
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Maybe over a draught Stella Artois.

Herb

Author: Trixter
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:40 am
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:-)

Author: Vitalogy
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 11:30 am
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Or over some Maker's Mark on the rocks!

Author: Digitaldextor
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 11:57 am
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Here's one of the five points why Gore would have been a bad president.


"A single, nasty dimension."

His one campaign tactic is to scare people about others' motives; and his one public mode is attack. Throughout his career, he has used the most extreme forms of expression: calling those who differ with him on race- related questions bigots or sympathizers with murderers; those who differ with him on foreign policy quislings or traitors; those who differ with him on social policy willing killers of the poor. To this, his stiff public guise has acted as decoy. "His rhetoric is like Bob Dornan's, but nobody notices," Tucker Carlson has quoted someone who has. Another person who has noticed is Michael Barone, ranking political expert on everything. Gore enjoys "sinking his political fangs into the flesh of the other side and ripping it," he says. And one who can certainly vouch for this is Connerly, who has the following memory of the White House meeting between quota opponents and Clinton-Gore. As they filed out, Clinton shook their hands warmly. Gore, by contrast, crushed Connerly's hand in his own so hard that Connerly, a beefy six-footer, almost cried out in pain. With Clinton, one had at least bogus civility. Bad trade.

Author: Vitalogy
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 11:59 am
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DD, give it up. Anyone would have been a better president that Bush, GOP or Dem. You're trying to sell a turd and no one's buying.

Author: Deane_johnson
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 12:00 pm
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>>>"Anyone would have been a better president that(n) Bush, GOP or Dem."

Aren't you glad you have a right to be wrong.

Author: Vitalogy
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 12:08 pm
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Sorry Deane, but when someone tries to speculate that Gore (or fill in the blank...) would have been a bad president, while praising George W. Bush, is a complete buffoon to me. It's widely regarded by experts on both sides of the coin that Bush's legacy will not be kind to him, and will most likely be regarded as the worst president in modern time, even worse than Carter.

This would be like the manager of a losing team claiming that had they hired his competitor to be manager, they would have been worse. Speculation is one thing, but tangible results speak louder if you ask me.

Author: Trixter
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:21 pm
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With Bush it's hard to polish a turd.

DJ said>>
Aren't you glad you have a right to be wrong.

So do YOU.

Author: Deane_johnson
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:34 pm
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>>>"So do YOU."

However, it's a right I don't choose to exercise.

Author: Trixter
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:47 pm
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That's funny and YOUR WRONG!

Author: Deane_johnson
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:06 pm
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>>>"That's funny and YOUR WRONG!"


It would be "you're".

Author: Skybill
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:21 pm
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I thought I was wrong once, but I was wrong!

Author: Trixter
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 11:12 pm
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DA said>>>
It would be "you're".

THE SPELLING POLICE ARE OUT AGAIN!!!!
YOUR (YOU'RE) not going to like this Mrs. Merkin!!!

Author: Mrs_merkin
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 11:57 pm
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Trix, you're not even close to Okie's level of crimes against the English language. Carry on!

Lovin' you!

Author: Trixter
Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:52 am
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DJfresh takes the cake on spelling.


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