I heard a call to Hannity where the caller said that she just couldn't bring herself to vote for Guiliani because of his stance on abortion.

Hannity replied that if you took his stance on abortion from the picture, he stands for good conservative values. He encouraged her to not consider abortion an issue.

From a right wing point of view, wouldn't that be the equivalent of telling people that if you took the slaughter of Jews out of the picture, Hitler was a pretty good leader?

I always know that abortion was just a way to manipulate voters to vote against their own best inereste. I also am guessing that those southern Dems who joined the GOP after civil rights was enforced, are still mad to see those colored using any water fountain that they want but that's not a nice thing to talk about so they rally around the abortion straw man. They don't really care about fetuses.

This is absolutely true!

And it's true for a lot of people, and a lot of divisive issues.

The only real upside is the numbers are small right now, and highly likely to continue to get smaller, over time as really old bigots tip over.

Some of it will get passed on, but a lot of it won't.

Hitler was a lousy leader, even if you took the obscene point of view, that what he did to Jews, homosexuals, gypsies, Russian POW's, and his own opposition didnt matter.

Some leaders don't think that certain people's lives matter as much as others, especially when it means more power for themselves and a few extra billions syphoned off for their cronies.

You just gotta turn some groups of people into boogeymen and you got a good start,

It's a little ironic to hear someone tell a pro-life Republican to vote for a pro-choice candidate when the Republicans have been wooing pro-life voters year after year after year. Personally I don't think Giuliani has a chance of winning the nomination; social conservatives are too potent a force in the Republican party to allow it to happen, and if by some miracle he does get nominated, social conservatives will probably stay home on election day.

The Democrats are a more inclusive party; even though it's largely a pro-choice party, Democrats rallied behind a pro-life Senate candidate in Pennsylvania in 2006 to get the hated Rick Santorum out, by supporting Bob Casey. And of course the Dems have a pro-life Senate Majority Leader.

Honestly, I think Republicans like Hannity are starting to panic about 2008 because they realize that unless Fred Thompson jumps in, none of the Republican candidates is very exciting to their base. And that makes it much more likely that Hillary will be elected.

Andrew

The real hypocrite is Thom Hartmann. He believes public schools are necessary for American democracy. He opposes school vouchers. However, he home schools his children. What a hypocrite.

Wow, yeah, DD. Supporting public schools and opposing vouchers while home schooling his kids...yeah, what a BLATANT, FLAMING hypocrite Hartmann is! WOW! Maybe his name should be Thom Hypocrite not Hartmann, huh? WOW! How can he live with himself?

Next you'll be telling us he supports gas taxes but WALKS to work!

Why don't you call in to his show and tell him? I'll bet he gets so flustered he quits radio.

Andrew

"Why don't you call in to his show and tell him?"

Talk about leading the lamb to the slaughter!

Aren't Thom's kids grown up adults?

Shhhhhh!!!!!!!!! No talking now, no talking now!!!

Andrew

I love Liberals listening to Conservative radio.

Air America is doomed.

No it's not.

Well, maybe it is... that remains to be seen. Putting bozos like Lionel in primary slots, dilutes the strong message and that's not good for attracting new listeners.

It also marginalzes the format somewhat and that's not good for existing ones.

AAR however, has little to do with the viability of left leaning radio.

We are divided on many issues. (most all issues?) While not a good thing, for us in general, it is very good for building a larger overall talk radio audience. The strong left leaning message will attract new listeners to the format, and that's good for all of talk radio.

The potential pool of listeners is a lot bigger when solid left leaning listeners are considered. Just look at the numbers!

I see that the right wingnuts can't defend Hannity, can they? Says a lot about their values.

Who cares if Air America sticks around or not? KPOJ already broadcasts 9 hours of non-AAR programming as it is every day. Honestly, I'd be perfectly happy if most of the current AAR shows went away and the AAR shows were replaced.

Andrew

Andrew, you're sarcasm can't change the fact that Thom Hartmann is a hypocrite.

I don't see how his position is hypocritical DD. You've really not met that burden.

Frankly, if this is what you've got on Thom, nobody has any worries. Minor league at best.

DD, just saying someone is a hypocrite does not make him one. You need to have, like, some reasoning behind it. There's nothing hypocritical about home schooling your kids and also supporting public education. Home schooling is extremely difficult, and Hartmann surely recognizes that not everyone can do it.

Andrew

Lockstep right wing can only change the subject to "win" an argument. I don't think they'd get points for that on a debate team.

Nope.

BTW: We should be doing this more in schools.

Re: AAR

BRING BACK SAM SEDAR.

If the KPOJ listeners were like the Kool Aide drinkers on the right, they'd all accept EVERYTHING that everyone said on KPOJ, nodding and drooling all in sync. Doesn't matter what Rush od Hannity says, their words are law and when they tell the right to jump, the right says "How high?"

Totally, and an interesting point too.

I don't know anybody that likes O'reilly that does not also like Hannity.

I do know plenty of people that like Maddow, but can't stand Rhodes.

Hmmm....

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Andrew, you're sarcasm can't change the fact that Thom Hartmann is a hypocrite.

I thought this thread was about the HYPOCRITE known as Insannity? Oh! That's right! When all else fails change the subject!
That's a EXTREME RIGHT WING BIBLE THUMPER for ya.....

Now Trixter, Don't go acting like all the libs here don't change the subject as well.

You could create a topic about fire ants and some wacked out stinky liberal will come in and blame Bush.

The fire ant problem could be solved with only 1% of the money Bush is spending killing our boys and girls over there in Iraq. That's 6 billion dollars folks.

So, this dead silence about Hannity's hypocracy tells me seems to indicate that the right stands for nothing except an obsessive, irrational hatred of liberals. They don't CARE what they call it, anti-abortion, pro-gun, etc., those are meaningless words. It just means stop liberals.

High Five to Skep!

Nailed it Mrs_bug!

DD- You continually crack me up.

Mrs. Bug, Hannity's abortion remark is not an example of hypocrisy. At worst you could say he is inconsistent.

To paraphrase Missing kskd, if that is all you got on Hannity, then he has nothing to worry about.

A hypocrite is someone who says one thing but does another. An advocate of public schools who has his own children home schooled is an example.

Here is another example. Michael Moore criticizes businesses and corporations for not hiring minorities. Yet most of the people he employs are white. That's hypocrisy.

Hannity's remark is the murder is okay, as long as one's other values match his.

Public vs. private schools and job inequities are hardly the same.

dd sez: "Michael Moore criticizes businesses and corporations for not hiring minorities. Yet most of the people he employs are white."

hmm . . . so DD is saying Moore DOES hire minorities. The reason "most" people he hires are white is because, well, there are more whites than minorities.

Also, it appears that Thom rather home school his kids than letting someone else educate them (public or private). One can still support a certain ideology for those that cannot home educate thier kids. Home ed isn't for everyone.

sounds like dd hasn't made any case.

Never does....
Never will.....

It doesn't make any sense but if you were an advertiser, wouldn't yuo rather have that kind of illogical mentality fall for whatever you're trying to sell than the kind who listens to a lefty station?

This is a concern. Smart people won't buy stupid products so it stands to reason that the left will get less ad revenue.