More of the Democrat "do as I say, not as I do".

Al Gore, arguably one of the dumber politicians out there, managed to serve the world's most endangered species of fish at his daughter's wedding.

This comes on the heals of the revelation that his energy use in one day rivals many American's use in one year.

Is it possible some of you liberals need to think what you really stand for?

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22090734-5001031,00.html

I can hardly wait for the spin and excuses. And, I'm certain this will turn into an anti Bush thread. Take the attention off the subject matter, shift it to George Bush, that's the standard liberal defense.

No.

Oh theres PLENTY of stuff for everyone to step in.

Gore has lots of it on himself lately.

It doesn't make me change my mind about global warming though. Was it supposed to?

Good job in turning off your thinking cap and turning on the hypocrisy cap, Deane! You turn it off whenever you're looking to spread another smear against private citizens Al Gore or Bill Clinton, nearly eight years after they left office, I guess to divert attention your own party's pathetic record the last few years and its recent bankruptcy of leadership and ideas.

Let's look at this logically: do you REALLY believe Gore was told of the menu choices and he said, "Hmm. That's an engangered species. But GO AHEAD, I just hope no one finds out!"

More likely, it was completely an oversight and Gore was so busy he had no clue what was going to be on the menu at his daughter's wedding - and when he found out, he was upset about it. But you'd rather blame and smear, because you hate Al Gore.

And even if turns out there's more to this story...who cares? You'd rather just smear him. Like the smear about Gore polluting so much because he uses his private jet all the time. Turns out Gore flys commercial whenever possible - did you know that?

Meanwhile, not a peep when a politican on your side of the aisle does anything far worse than not being aware of the meal choice being served at his daughter's wedding. But, you hold Democrats to a far different standard than Republicans - hypocrite.

Andrew

According to the following link the fish is not an endangered species. Sounds like the real boob, is the one reading the conservative Daily Telegraph.

http://www.state.gov/g/oes/rls/fs/2002/8989.htm

Andrew, what you're overlooking is that the likes of Al Gore and Robert F. Kennedy, JR., spend the bulk of their time running around telling the rest of us what we should do, but don't do it themselves. I'm surprised you chose to bring up the word "hypocrite" in this thread.

And just imagine, a big mean ole SOB like me picking on a poor defenseless "private citizen" like Al Gore.

And so what are we supposed to actually DO with this information? Know it? Act on it? What?

>>>"According to the following link the fish is not an endangered species. Sounds like the real boob, is the one reading the conservative Daily Telegraph."

The Humane Society International says it's the most endangered fish on the planet. The Bush Administration, being ever mindful of it's Chilean relations, says go ahead and eat it.

I guess it's you guy's call as to which to go with.

All sorts of recipes out there, here is one from Food Network:


Chilean Sea Bass with Spicy Fruit Salsa

So would you prefer we use the Humane Society over the Bush administration in this case?

Actually, I'm just surprised that the libs on this forum suddenly found comfort in the Bush Administration.

It's not a question of that. The fish is served in fine restaurants all over the place. It's a high ticket item, which is probably the reason poaching has been occurring. That is the problem, not that is in short supply.

"Actually, I'm just surprised that the libs on this forum suddenly found comfort in the Bush Administration."

Even a stopped watch is correct twice a day.

Deane, just tell us which one is right and we'll go from there.

I am not completely liberal. I find no comfort in this (failed) administration.

"..spread another smear against private citizens Al Gore or Bill Clinton.."

Are you saying the allegations are not true?

Talk about hypocrisy. I've yet to see evidence of Mr. Bush using illegal substances. But the leftist talking points prattle on and on about that smear drivel.

But when it comes to liberal hypocrisy, it's turn a blind eye time around this leftist board. I can't wait until 2008. There's PLENTY of intel on Hillary, Edwards and Obama.

Herb

"There's PLENTY of intel on Hillary, Edwards and Obama."

?

Chickenjuggler, they have a track record.

Especially Mrs. Clinton.

Herbert Milhous

Right. And we know that. And they are still running. You made it sound like you have some kind of inside information that is waiting to be sprung in 2008.

But why don't you list the top ones for each so I don't have to assume anything.

Fishing for an angle Deane? Trying to lure us in?
What's your hook?

So there is hypocrisy in politics. Gee, what a surprise!!

So now that we've established that what is served at a private function is now worth political backlash, can we move onto more important REAL news. Like Paris Hilton!!

I still am waiting for an answer on what we are to do with this information.

I know that ANYthing else is, in the eyes of Deane, spin. But heck, man, give me a direction. What do you want me to do with this? Call him a hypocrite? What?

What are YOU going to do with this?

Deane, it looks like you're the boob:

http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/products/seafood/chileanseabass.html

Obviously, Chilean Sea Bass isn't an "endangered species."

Admit it: this whole story about Gore was bullshit. You didn't care if it was true or not - you just wanted to smear Gore. Perhaps you're just jealous of his success at a time when your own bankrupt political party is falling apart?

Andrew

>>>"I am still waiting for an answer on what we are to do with this information."

CJ my recommendation is that you start taking what the Bush Administration says as they way to go on everything. A hardy meal of Chilean Sea Bass would be the best demonstration of your new found gospel.

Andrew your link is to someone selling the product. They profit from the sale. Hardly objective. I'll go with the Humane Society International as a neutral source, you go with a commercial interest profiting from the use of the product.

No, Deane. I meant " What are we supposed to do with the information that Gore ate some sea bass when he wasn't supposed to if we are to believe global warming?"

Man, I think I actually stumbled on your intent by having to repeat it to you. And it looks rediculous.

>>>"No, Deane. I meant " What are we supposed to do with the information that Gore ate some sea bass when he wasn't supposed to if we are to believe global warming?"

I don't see any tie between global warming and sea bass in any of my posts. However, what you should do with it is realize what Gore really is. Nothing. Well, maybe that's not exactly correct, he actually a hypocrite, which would be a notch up the ladder from nothing.

>>>"And it looks rediculous."

I believe the correct spelling is "ridiculous".

"I've yet to see evidence of Mr. Bush using illegal substances. But the leftist talking points prattle on and on about that smear drivel."

Umm Herb, Bush has admitted himself past transgressions involving alcohol and drugs ... much more serious stuff than Clinton's "I did not inhale".

Don't try passing that crap off on us.

Bush only admitted to having a problem with alcohol.

Brianl always want to see the worst in Bush, which is odd coming from a so-called Republican.

Yeah, a so-called Republican...just like Trixter!

Herb

Put Bush under oath and ask him if he's ever snorted coke.

Oh yeah, he would just claim "executive privilege" in order to avoid telling the truth.

And another lib comes out of the woodwork.

Put Mr. Clinton under oath and ask him...oh wait, we already did....AND HE PERJURED HIMSELF.

Herb

Actually, any one can decline to answer a question under oath. Mr clinton had several options, he could have claimed executive privlidge, as he should, since hes one of the 3 equal branches of govt. He could have claimed protection under the 5th amendment, or he could have just told the truth.

I think its wonderful, how the democrats protect womens rights, but claim it was perfectly acceptable for President clinton to lie in a sexual haassment suit.

If your a democrat go ahead and harass your employees, as long as you give lip service to the ERA etc.

Clinton's perjury has nothing to do with whether or not Bush snorted coke.

We all know that Bush would refuse to answer the question because he snorted coke and doesn't want people to know. Otherwise, a truly innocent person would do what he could to clear his name.

Nwokie writes:
I think its wonderful, how the democrats protect womens rights, but claim it was perfectly acceptable for President clinton to lie in a sexual haassment suit.

Stop making shit up. Dare you to name even *ONE* Democrat who claimed it was "acceptable."

Andrew

Ding...Ding. Fight's over...NWOKIE throw's in the towel, crying towel that is!

Deane writes:
Andrew your link is to someone selling the product. They profit from the sale. Hardly objective. I'll go with the Humane Society International as a neutral source, you go with a commercial interest profiting from the use of the product.

Didn't bother to read the link, did you, Deane? If you had, you'd realize that some Chilean sea bass are now certified sustainably harvested - that's why Whole Foods started selling them again. It's the unsubstainable harvesting that threatens the species.

But obviously, in your hate for Al Gore, you don't care about the facts. Smear first and ask questions later. But if you opened your tiny little mind just a crack, you might have to realize that this stance by environmentalists - that it's OK to eat fish if they are harvested in environmentally-friendly ways - also shatters "PETA" stereotype, that all liberals want to ban eating meat. Truth is, liberals are a lot more reasonable than you like to give them credit for. Many of them own hunting rifles and hunt and fish, too.

Andrew

>>>"in your hate for Al Gore"

Sorry, I don't hate Al Gore, I only pity him. He is so desparate for a cause so he can keep his face on TV. After all, the world is made up of only two classes of people, those who watch television, and those who are on it.

This is all just noise from a shaky GOP base, just beginning to discover how deep the damage goes.

Missing, I'll agree with you that the GOP base is unhappy. It's because many Republicans in Congress, and the President are too liberal.

Nice try, but no dice.

The too liberal meme is simply a lame attempt to associate all the damage done with left leaning people.

You've got much better. My time is limited. Do me a favor and let's see more of that. Makes the effort worth while.

Sucks having your party redefined doesn't it?

The GOP base is unhappy because they are being led by complete idiots and are set to lose even more power come 2008 as a result.

Lose power? I expect the GOP to retain the presidency, and regain at least the Senate, if not the House also.

"My time is limited."

So is ours, Missing. You write copious screeds but, somehow, you find the time for that! Sheesh.

That's right.
Those on the right much prefer the mindless soundbites dispensed by the likes of Limbaugh, O'Reilly, & Michael Weiner.

It's Wiener, Amus! And, I'm sure those on the left prefer the mindless droppings of Schultz, Rhodes, Kennedy, Papantonio, Flanders, et. al.

He'll always be a weiner to me!

The GOP stands no chance of winning in 2008.

As long as they support continuing the error George W Bush started in Iraq, they will lose.

And with 21 GOP Senators up for re-election in 2008, they will give up seats in the Senate as well. Mark my words.

Vitalogy, are you by any chance the 2007 version of the San Fransisco flower child of the 60s? Just trying to figure out where you're coming from.

So first I'm a young punk wet behind the ears, and now you think I'm a pot smoking SF hippie?

I'm neither, and my views vary based on the subject, not any party's position on it.

>>>"So first I'm a young punk wet behind the ears, and now you think I'm a pot smoking SF hippie?"

I didn't say anything about pot.

A San Francisco flower child of the 60's by default means pot smoking, no?

Man - we are in a fighting mood today. Be thankful none of us are at Uncle Bob's Wake drunk because there'd be blood on the floor by now.

ACID baby.....far out and psychedelic! Purple Haze!

Well, we could all meet at some bar & grill that has one of those trivia games and have a trivia battle......lefties against righties!

EDIT ADD:
Losers pay!

There are Americans who cannot stand the fact that there are so many different Americans with so many different backgrounds, and so many doggone different points of view. They still cling to the glory of those monochromatic early dunking stool days, waggle righteous fingers, and make everything a personal attack. They fancy themselves rugged individualists, while fitting every other soul into a nice little box. God Bless America.

"Brianl always want to see the worst in Bush, which is odd coming from a so-called Republican."

Well name me something where I should see the BEST in Bush. He comes across as this traditional small-government, lower-taxes faith-based conservative, but he has overseen the largest growth in federal government in history, the largest budget deficit in history because he is spending more despite having slashed taxes, he has focused on putting bigotry and discrimination in the Constitution despite using the rest of the Constitution as toilet paper to fit his personal agenda ...

Do I like some things that have happened under the Bush watch? Sure. Home ownership is at an all-time high. Despite my beef with the jobless recovery of the economy, the economy has STILL recovered, and I don't think people realize how bad 9/11 was for the US economy ... it could well have turned into 1929. I personally like Bush's thoughts of privatizing social security and giving people the option of investing their own money into their own retirement plans instead of SSI, though I don't agree with his plan as it was.

That said, why is it that Herb and Nwokie and Deane and DD and everyone else expects me to have Bush's back, just because he is a Republican and so am I? In case you haven't noticed, boys and girls, Bush's fellow GOPers in Congress are turning against him at an alarming rate. They are sick of the lies, deception, and innocent lives lost in Iraq. They are sick of the cowboy diplomacy and the bull-in-a-china-shop mentality. They are sick of being made to look like buffoons because their fearless leader guides us with his head up his ass. George W. Bush has been the worst President in the last 100 years, if not of all-time, and I am convinced that history will not shine on him favorably.

Herb's own Nixon had his strong points. I grew up a child of the Reagan years, and I look favorably on his Presidency. Both had issues and scandals, one survived and one didn't ... but BOTH had something tangible that was positive that they could put in their legacy. What does Dubya have?

"What does Dubya have?"

No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil since 9/11?

No saucercraft landings since 9/11.

No talking horses since 9/11.

No free beer at baseball games since 9/11.

No pregnant octogenarians since 9/11.

What a fantastic record! Thank you for pointing out the error of our ways.

The satisfaction of knowing the the BUSH clan will never again have a ghost's chance in hell to run thank's to Big Brother!

No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil since 9/11?

Right, and neither did Clinton after 1993 (unless you count Oklahoma City in 1995, homegrown terrorists). Are you saying you think Clinton's record on terrorism was good because there were no attacks on the US homeland after 1993 on his watch?

Don't you think Bush did a bang-up job on terrorism in the first eight months of his presidency, since there was not a single terrorist attack on US soil from January 20, 2001 through September 10, 2001? Wouldn't it have been just as fair on September 10th to say, "Bush is doing an excellent job on terrorism. No attacks, see?"

Andrew

What about the terrorist attack that occured on HIS watch? Does Bush get a pass on that?

Would you claim that a CEO is a success if he hasn't taken the company into BK since the last time he did it 6 years ago?

Would you tell your wife that you are a success since you haven't cheated on her since the last time you cheated on her 6 years ago?

Claiming Bush is a success because we've had no attacks since the last one ON HIS WATCH is laughable!

Actually clinton did, the embassies in africa that were bombed, are American territory.

Actually clinton did, the embassies in africa that were bombed, are American territory.

It may be American terrority but most wouldn't consider an embassy in Africa part of the "homeland." You know exactly what I meant. If you want to talk about overseas attacks on Americans, there have been hundreds since 9/11.

Andrew

>>>"And it looks rediculous."

I believe the correct spelling is "ridiculous".

Yes. I would like to say " Oh that was a typo or whatever." The truth is, I am 38 and have spelled that incorrectly for many of those years. Thanks for the correction and not dismissing my point because I LOOK stupid sometimes.

LMAO......you looking stupid is like saying Hurb will vote for Hillary! HA

I just flat ignore them thar Yeller boxes when I pozt! See....there were three right there!

>>>Yes. I would like to say " Oh that was a typo or whatever." The truth is, I am 38 and have spelled that incorrectly for many of those years."

The yellow boxes are a joke. I use Mozilla Firefox and it has an outstanding spell checker that is hot all the time. If you misspell a word it automatically underlines it in red and then you can right click for a little pop up with the correct spelling.

Well I'm not going to change my computer for the occasional screw up. But your point isn't lost on me.

You don't need to learn how to spell anymore in school now that spell-check is here. Hence "Guess and Go spelling! Just get it in the ballpark.....spell-check will bring you home!

I like Mizspellin' word's.....sometimes it helps to make a point!

Deane began this discussion with a few thoughts including, "This comes on the heals of the revelation..."

I would not sweat it Chickenjuggler.

It is always the thought that counts.

DJ said>>>>
Actually, I'm just surprised that the libs on this forum suddenly found comfort in the Bush Administration.

WTF?
You've got to be kidding!
Comfort and The Bush administration are very far apart period unless your drunk or on meth.

Gotta love how people make boobs of themselves in their selection of thread headings.

(see, no "attack on bush required".)

DD:

You need to do more research before attacking with just one source.

But the fish enjoyed by the Gores were not endangered or illegally caught.

Rather, the restaurant later confirmed, they had come from one of the world's few well-managed, sustainable populations of toothfish, and caught and documented in compliance with Marine Stewardship Council regulations. The Gores' spokesman, Kalee Kreider, admitted that the fish has been on the menu, but said: "The Gores absolutely agree with this humane society and the rest of the environmental community about illegally caught Chilean sea bass.

"The problem is huge. This is unfortunate, we have been in touch with the society today. The really important thing is that people become more aware of this issue."

Herb said>>>
Yeah, a so-called Republican...just like Trixter!

And a so called human like yourself???? COME ON NOW! Herb.... you know that I'm a tried and true Republican... I just don't like the CRAP that DUHbya and Co. are doing! Just because I don't agree with them 100% I'm not a Republican??? That's just retarded!

Don't you just hate it when facts get in the way of a good smear?

Trixter, agreeing with the Republican Party 1% of the time doesn't make you a Republican.

Stop with "I'm a tried and true Republican...".because it all crap.

Yep. Hates it. Confirmed.

@DD -- well, call it being a traditional Republican, as opposed to a neo-Republican.

Trixter, you're a great guy, but you side with the democrats most of the time.

You are what you are.

Herb

You're right Herb, Trixter sides with the Democrats most of the time.

Trixter makes a RINO (Republican In Name Only) look conservative.

*Jacques-Yves Cousteau voice*

Zoon, zee school tires uv chazing zee big-air prey. Zen, fine-ting no uzzer food zourzes, ze fish attack zere own and eat zem. It iz zee way uv nature.

Shibal nom, Geseki

Bbadori

Dol dae ga ri

Ggujo

(this dialogue is Korean -- something Dreckster apparently knows from Googling swear words)

Roughly translated, I called him a blockhead and asked him to go away. I will not translate what he said to me.

Trixter sides against Bush, not with Democrats. Most smart people do. Only dumb ones continue to support an obvious failure.

Ni me shi me nuhn il bon chon haam ey soo yong het nuhn dae.

Actually, she did not swim out to meet the Japanese ships, but thanks for noticing that I have a mother.

Budi kusmetlia! Umri na grobishtata.

I hearby declare this an ENGLISH-ONLY thread! If youse dun't like it, go back to wher ye came frum!

Andrew

Thank for the good luck wishes, but I shan't die in a graveyard.

(Andrew, agreed.)

$%^&*()^%%^&*+_*&^$)(*&^%$#$^%#%*&). Amen

Sadimwa betoukh (or satimwa betakh)

No, my house in Assyria is not going to collapse.

I think it is time to grab a nice juicy hamburger. You can bury the kim-chee, and all the other exotic dishes.

Wasn't this a thread about Tipper's chest?

To return to topic, I think it ought to have a parental warning label on it.

OK....knock it off or I will start speaking Klingonease!

Darktemper qaparHa'qu

Forgive me Andrew, but I think Klingon ought to be on the board more often. :0)

Now back to our regularly scheduled bashing of the President-elect from 2000 -- and his consumption of fish that hooked a floundering political party full of trollers.

tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh'e'

Dean, why are you afraid to respond to evidence of how you were wrong to start this post — which by the way got out of hand away from the topic as usual?

No, Darktemper, I don't, but I find myself respecting them as fictional characters more than some humans who are really alive. :0)

DD's writes>>>
Trixter, agreeing with the Republican Party 1% of the time doesn't make you a Republican.

Stop with "I'm a tried and true Republican...".because it all crap.

Well your obviously not a very smart person because dissent is the best form of Democracy. I'm LIVING up to one of the Republican agenda. SUPPORT DEMOCRACY!
Give till it kills... Oh.... That was DUHbya's saying...
I DO NOT BELIEVE IN DUHbya and CO.! That in no way means I'm NOT a Republican. If you think otherwise maybe Cuba should be your home from now on....