Author: Adiant Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:41 am |
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85 years ago today, KOL Seattle first signed on. It is tied for #1 on my list of favourite stations, in terms of listened to the most and the longest (mid-'60s to 1971). You can read my somewhat personalized history of the station, written just for today, at http://www.radiowest.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?p=12756703#12756703 |
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Author: Qpatrickedwards Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 2:33 pm |
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Interesting history of KOL. Thanks for posting it! (Also liked the blurb about Z95.3 that you posted--It is my favourite Vancouver FM station. Fantastic imaging and presentation.) |
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Author: Adiant Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 6:11 pm |
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Unfortunately, Z95.3 (CKZZ) has fallen upon very hard times, ratings-wise. They currently have the lowest rating of any rated commercial FM station in Vancouver. |
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Author: Craig_adams Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:32 pm |
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Adiant: Nice Job! |
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Author: Adiant Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 7:14 am |
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Wow! Thanks, Craig. I had no idea of the details of KOL's early existence. |
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Author: Squawkker Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 11:36 am |
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If you're interested in the early EARLY days of radio, there's a great bio on David Sarnoff here: |
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Author: Johnf Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 4:10 pm |
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I assume that the Carl Haymond who was mentioned above in the history summary as the first engineer for KOL's predecessor station in 1922 is the same Carl Haymond who later owned KMO radio in Tacoma and who started Channel 13 (now KCPQ) in 1953 as NBC affiliate KMO-TV. But he wasn't able to make a go of the TV station, which was then sold and became independent KTVW for many years. |
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Author: Paulwalker Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 6:04 pm |
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Johnf, you bring up an interesting sidelight to Seattle/Tacoma TV history. In TV's formative years Tacoma tried to offer their own network outlets, probably due to limited antenna coverage of the big Seattle stations. Cable eventually changed all that. But KTNT was CBS, and KMO was NBC for awhile, as you mention. The irony is that the old CBS KTNT, who had evolved to KSTW, retreived CBS for a brief period in the mid-90's, but was doomed to failure. So except for that abberation, Seattle's net affiliates are back to what they were a generation ago. The Seattle market is stable enough to keep these affiliate-identifications alive for awhile...atleast until the big 3-4 start to become less relevant. I see that coming in the next decade or two. |
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Author: Adiant Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 8:24 pm |
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Which brings up another question: what took KIRO so long to get a TV station? I forget the exact date but they weren't on the air until about 1960. I've heard two different stories about CBS affiliates KTNT and KVOS (Bellingham) somehow preventing it, but never heard a definitive explanation. |
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Author: Daveyboy1 Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 8:57 pm |
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In I think, in the spring of 64 not sure exactly, but KOL had a brief stint as an MOR station. Radio talk show host Fenwick left KPOJ to host a talk show on KOL in the early evening. Don Porter took over at KPOJ as the new host. Fenwick and his family lived in our neighborhood at the time. Apparently KOL wasn't MOR for very long. One night I listened to KOL and the stn was back to Rock'nRoll.........and no Fenwick. I wonder who owned KOL during this MOR stint and why this brief Mor phase? |
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Author: Paulwalker Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 9:36 pm |
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KOL may have had some format kiniptions (sp?) but from the late 50's to the early 70's they were a personality-driven Top40. KJR was the ruler, but KOL gave them a run for their money. |
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Author: Craig_adams Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 9:39 pm |
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Johnf: Yes! Carl E. Haymond purchased KMO on August 26, 1926. He also bought Portland's KFEC from Meier & Frank on March 18, 1929. He moved KFEC to Yakima and it became KIT March 22, 1929, signing on the air April 9, 1929. |
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Author: Daveyboy1 Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 10:17 pm |
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I might be wrong but I think he is Jim Fenwick his real last name was Pearson. I knew his kids plus I met the man himself. As a youngin' I recall being thrilled that a radio person lived across the street.KMO now is Radiosol KKMO Salem Broadcasting. They have been trying to change calls to KSSL or KSLL. a longtime ago. No news yet |
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Author: Craig_adams Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 10:37 pm |
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Daveyboy1: Yes, Jim "Fenwick"! I think I was thinking of Peter "Wiseback" another talk show host that used his last name most of the time. I've corrected my error above. Thanks! |
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Author: Semoochie Friday, May 25, 2007 - 12:02 am |
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I almost worked with Fenwick twice: The first time at KPOK, where we were actually there at the same time and again when he had just left KKEY. |
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Author: Johnf Friday, May 25, 2007 - 10:28 am |
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Very interesting responses here from several of you about the Seattle radio/TV scene when I was a kid. I'm 51 now and distinctly remember when BOTH KTNT and KIRO were carrying CBS programs at the same time during their legal dispute in the late 1950s and early 1960s. (KIRO hit the airwaves in 1958, by the way). |
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Author: Paulwalker Friday, May 25, 2007 - 11:34 am |
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Sorry, I know this isn't Portland Radio, but bear with me here. John, here is the wiki-explanation: |
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Author: Johnf Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 2:41 pm |
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Thanks, Paul. I remember reading somewhere some comment that Seattle TV viewers were just so used after decades of bouncing between 4-5-7 for their network programming that they just couldn't get accustomed to switching all the way up to 11 for CBS. That seems a little far-fetched to me, but perhaps the average TV viewer does form some habits that are hard to break... |
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Author: Paulwalker Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 5:26 pm |
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John, there may be some truth to that. 4,5, & 7 in Seattle are as common as 2,6, & 8 in Portland. But I've got to think that as later generations age, these numbers will become less relevant. Today, it is all about branding, not channel numbers. A different era for sure. However, most major market network affiliates will fight to the death to keep their cable channel numbers the same as their over-the-air numbers. I guess things are not changing that fast afterall! |
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Author: Semoochie Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 7:09 pm |
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The first two will cease to exist in less than 2 years. |
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Author: Adiant Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 9:54 pm |
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"most major market network affiliates will fight to the death to keep their cable channel numbers the same as their over-the-air numbers" -- wow! What a difference from the Western Canadian markets I'm familiar with. Stations here don't want to be on the same cable channel as their off-air channel for fear of compromising their local viewers' cable reception of them. In fact, their on-air channels have typically been referred to as Impaired, because of the leak through from off-air to cable-connected televisions, thanks to faulty grounding, etc. in viewers' homes. |
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