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Author: Deane_johnson
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 10:52 am
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The big deal Democrat controlled congress, which was elected to solve everything the nasty Republicans had done to the country is now rated lower than Bush according to The Gallop Poll.

Bush 33%, Congress 29%

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27589

Author: Chickenjuggler
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 10:59 am
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I have to admit, that really surprises me.

Author: Missing_kskd
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 11:06 am
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Well, there could be more solving if the GOP were actually open to the idea.

Some time needs to pass before we fully grok this. As far as I am concerned, it's just a minor bump in the road.

It does not yet have quite the staying power, where lows are concerned, demonstrated by the GOP.

Author: Deane_johnson
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 11:22 am
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>>>"Well, there could be more solving if the GOP were actually open to the idea."


I swear Missing, if you had a turd on your plate you could somehow rationalize it was a steak.

Author: Chris_taylor
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 11:38 am
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Uh Deane- It's ALL of Congress not just the Dems. Both parties at fault here.

Author: Deane_johnson
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 11:42 am
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>>>"Uh Deane- It's ALL of Congress not just the Dems. Both parties at fault here."


Which party is in control with all of the committee chairmanships?
Which party controls the agenda?
Which party gets to make all the decisions?

Author: Chickenjuggler
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 11:49 am
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The executive!

What do I win?

Author: Chris_taylor
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 11:51 am
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Which party had 6 years to do the same? You don't unravel something in 6 months after 6 years. We are seeing why the dems and GOP are so far apart the leader of the free world has screwed it for both parties. Bush is so far over his head that all he really has left is the almighty Veto.

Author: Saveitnow
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 11:53 am
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Congress has low ratings because they won't impeach Bush. There are many people who voted for the Democrats to end the war and impeach Bush. They aren't seeing either, so they have a bad opinion of Congress and you then add Republicans who always hate Democrats there you are.

Now if the Democrats would get their war funding and ending the war legislation through Congress, you would see the Congress favorable ratings jump up.

Author: Shane
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 12:17 pm
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You don't impeach a President simply because he keeps doing things you don't like.

Author: Littlesongs
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 12:17 pm
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Chickenjuggler, you win an autographed copy of the Declaration of Independence -- complete with a new signator, Turdblossom! You also get our Bill of Rights, looking much like a darling chain of paper dolls after all the editing and revisions. Brightens any room and is suitable for hanging.

That's not all, since you answered with the secret word of the day, you also win a complete set of Halliburton briefcases in fashion blacks and silvers. Not only are they bulletproof and sturdy, these cases tell clients that you will kill for their business. Thanks for being today's winner on "Strrrrrrrrroking the Polls."

Author: Sutton
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 12:43 pm
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I tend to vote Democrat more often than Republican, and I think Bush is breathtakingly incompetent, but ... the Democratic-led congress so far has been pretty short-sighted and un-strategic. Different statements every few days, a lack of proper focus ... I wouldn't give them high marks.

Author: Missing_kskd
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 2:44 pm
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Now we are talking turds Deane?

Hilarious!! I'm really glad I'm making your day. I'm here to help --really!

One day after the election results came in, we had the usual suspect here chanting, "Gridlock!".

Well, here we are in gridlock and there is bitching about it? Sorry, that's still a GOP thing, just like all the other horrors of the last several years.

Guess we will have to just wait until either the GOP gets smaller again, or their level of fear of getting smaller shakes a few sane heads free of the dogma.

There is time.

Author: Edselehr
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 4:08 pm
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Folks, click on the link in the first post, scroll down and look at the trends.

The Democrat-controlled Congress approval rating has now dropped to 29%, which is equal to the HIGHEST approval rating that the Republican-controlled Congress ever got since May of 2006.

When (if) the Dem-controlled Congress approval rating drops below the lowest rating of the GOP since May '06 (21%) then and only then do the GOP loyalists have anything to crow about. Not that these are stellar numbers for any party, but if we are talking a Dem v. GOP comparison (as I'm sure Herb and Deane are) then there is no comparison at this point - Dems are still doing much better.

Wanna talk about Bush's 28% over at Newsweek?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18505030/site/newsweek/

Author: Herb
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 4:37 pm
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Compared to President Truman, whose approval rating dropped to 22%, Mr. Bush is doing just fine indeed.

http://137.99.36.203/CFIDE/roper/presidential/webroot/presidential_rating.cfm

And give 'em heck Harry is now considered among our finest presidents.

History has been kind to Mr. Truman and Mr. Nixon and history will be kind to George W. Bush.

Herb

Author: Chris_taylor
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 5:18 pm
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"and history will be kind to George W. Bush."

Possibly only in your scrapbook.

Author: Aok
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 5:23 pm
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I love your hypocricy, you and Bush both. You do know Truman was one step away from being socialist don't you???? Well, you didn't seem to know liberals were in power during WWII so I don't know where your coming from. The point is I would think Truman is the last president King George would want to compare himself to UNLESS........what I have been saying all along is right and he believes in control more than he does freedom and liberty. He did express his desire to be dictator if I recall.

Author: Herb
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 5:26 pm
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Hypocrisy? It's the exact opposite. I'm being fair and balanced!

Mr. Truman ended WWII.

And while he may have been a tad pink, he did the right thing. Ol' Herb is open minded to embrace liberals when they get it right. God bless Harry Truman.

Herb

Author: Littlesongs
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 5:34 pm
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Yes, Aok, you are correct. The shrub has been quite candid about his desires.

"You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier."
-- Governing Magazine, July 1998

"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
— CNN.com, December 18, 2000

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it."
— Business Week, July 30, 2001

Author: Missing_kskd
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 5:49 pm
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It's bait people. Don't take it.

Author: Mrs_merkin
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 6:41 pm
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"and history will be kind to George W. Bush."

That will never happen, and you'll be worm food by the time you're proven officially (still) wrong.

WPE

Author: Missing_kskd
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 6:53 pm
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WFPE!

Let's at least get that right!

(yes the F, stands for one of the really bad words!)

Agreed Mrs M. History is not gonna be kind at all. The best he could hope for is a sort of ignored state of irreverence. (Nobody cares enough to bitch any more!)

Author: Missing_kskd
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 6:57 pm
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Yeah, you impeach because he is guilty of crimes.

Both the (P)resident and his Vice(roy) are totally there. Scared shitless that Rove might actually come under some rational investigation.

I'm one of those pissed off Democrats, BTW. If there was time to impeach Clinton, there is plenty of time for these clowns.

Edit: Nice catch Magic! Fixed it though.

Author: Magic_eye
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 7:46 pm
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Good man!

Author: Herb
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 8:05 pm
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Just like erroneous predictions about Mr. Bush, the left once insisted Mr. Nixon would never recover from Watergate.

Recover he did, and he is now more admired with each passing year. Historians now recognize Mr. Nixon's international stature far surpasses the hatchet job performed on him by communist sympathizers in his own country. They simply never forgave him for exposing the communist Alger Hiss.

Herbert Milhous Nixon VIII

Author: Littlesongs
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 8:29 pm
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Truman was not a moron.

Nixon was not a moron.

One insurmountable difference between the shrub, and all those who were perceived or believed to be awful before him, is that he is without a doubt, a moron.

He is the top ornament on a tree of dimbulbs, the heaviest of halfwits, hell, if he were a robot truck he would be Moronus Prime. All hail G.W. Sandwedge, King Champion of the Moron Presidents. *trumpets blare* Ladies and Gentlemen, his travesty...

Author: Missing_kskd
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 8:44 pm
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You know Herb, there is nothing like a good impeachment to solidify the memory of this (P)resident. That would be the tops!

C'mon, there is a legacy to get cracking on here, let's get it done!

Author: Herb
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 8:46 pm
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"there is nothing like a good impeachment..."

I'll remember that the next time you insist Mr. Clinton did nothing wrong.

Herb

Author: Chickenjuggler
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 8:47 pm
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While you are at it, remember that EVERYone says that Clinton did something wrong.

Author: Darktemper
Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 8:02 am
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I am not the most political minded person but in reading other blogs I find one thing interesting that has yet to be mentioned here....Impeach Cheney First! I found this interesting snipit in another blog:

"For the past 50 years, NORAD has had the duty of protecting US airspace from attack, and has always been under the direct command of select … all » US Military Generals. Three months before the attack of 9-11, Dick Cheney usurped control of NORAD, and therefore he, and no one else, had the power to call for military sorties on the hijacked airliners on 9-11. He did not exercise that power, and consequently, the Pentagon, WTC2 and WTC7 were left unprotected, and then destroyed, resulting in the death of thousands of innocents. Three months after 9-11, he relinquished command of NORAD and returned it to military operation."

Is this True? Could the second WTC attack have been prevented with a military air strike to bring down the second jet and also the one that hit the Pentagon?

Author: Chris_taylor
Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 9:34 am
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I have come to believe the Herb is a closet Bill Clinton fan. He posts his name more than Nixon's.

Author: Herb
Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 10:03 am
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Ouch.

Herbert Milhous


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