Gore / Edwards perhaps?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/22/wgore22.xml

Of course, I'm dreaming about the Edwards bit, but Gore clearly could be a jump in!

As I've said before, the only way Gore will run in 2008 is if Hillary crashes her campaign bus into a stage where Edwards and Obama are about to debate. If those three stay in the race, Gore won't run. Period.

And Edwards WILL NOT run for VP again. No way.

Andrew

mannix crashed his campaign bus into a real estate office (his supporters) so anything is possible!

The all-stars of PDX radio have come out for this debate!

I brought this up a couple of months ago...still think it has legs. Gore is just waiting for someone to stumble badly...

Are Gore and the electorate ready to come out swinging when the vicious, lying RNC dirty tricks come on hot and heavy.

Gore seemed to not be ready for them the last time around and, even during his vice presidency he seemed unsure about how to handle those sociopathic Republican maniacs.

I give him credit for not being able to immediately imagine how low people can sink when they are trying to smear a candidate.

I agree Redford.

I also think Edwards might reconsider if the landscape changes...

Gore-Kerry would be a dream democrat ticket.

Warmed over is all the left has got.

Herb

Like Nixon wasn't "warmed-over" in '68?

Nixon was the one.

He got us out of a democrat war, started the EPA and opened the door to China, whilst standing toe-to-toe with Brehznev, thus aiding us during a white-hot Cold War as western europe begged to appease.

Don't even TRY to go there with Mr. Nixon. You will fail miserably.

Herb

I'm not interested in getting into a debate about Nixon's legacy, I was just responding to your argument that the left has "warmed over" candidates in '08. Nixon was a two-time loser (President, and California Gov.), before he entered the race in '68. If that isn't warmed over I don't know what is.

It's relevant for sure. The Gore parallels are clear. Maybe it's a winning formula!

"I'm not interested in getting into a debate about Nixon's legacy..."

Fine, because when it comes to foreign policy, he's consistently rated as among our finest presidents.

"Nixon was a two-time loser (President, and California Gov.), before he entered the race in '68..."

Lincoln was an even bigger loser, yet he became arguably our finest president.

Mr. Gore is an appeaser and does not have the spine of a Nixon or Lincoln. In a hot war, most Americans prefer a 'strong on defense' president like Mr. Nixon or Mr. Lincoln, not wishy-washy panderers like the Clinton-Gore ticket.

Mr. Gore is far more likely to follow the appeasing internationalist ways of Neville Chamberlain. You wanna be like France? Vote for Mr. Gore.

Flawed as they both were, sad to say that Mr. Gore does not measure up to Nixon or Lincoln.

Herb

This just in: Nixon is (still) dead.

So is Mr. Lincoln. Both men were Republicans.

Yet unlike all the democrat failures in recent decades, those men both remain our finest presidents.

Herb

Gore-Kerry would be a nightmare, to the demo's.
To the republicans, it would be a dream.

(high five to Merkin!)

Your right President Nixon is dead, but he still has more charisma than Gore and Kerry combined.

If Mr Lincoln had of had any sense, he would not have sent troops into Virginia, it had not joined the confederacy.

That would have deprived the South of its greatest generals, Lee(all 4), Jackson and Stuart.

This just in . . . the North won the civil war.

Nixon was one of our FINEST Presidents???

Herb....
WAKE THE F UP!

Nixon RESIGNED in DISGRACE!

If that's fine to you then it's your fault that you like DUHbya.....

Trixter, maybe Herb is comparing Tricky Dick to Bush. Next to Bush, Nixon looks like Mother Theresa.

Nixon did not resign in disgrace, he resigned, because he put the interests of the country above his own. He could very well have continued in office, it would have been difficult to get enough votes to convict.

Charisma? Nixon?

"Nixon did not resign in disgrace"?


What exactly are you on? Do you need a prescription? Is it legal?

There's a statement above that Virginia did not join the Confederacy, which is not true. Virginia was a Confederate state, and Richmond was the capital of the CSA.

You can't Stonewall the truth.....

I didnt say virginia didnt join the confederacy, but they were one of the last to do so, after Lincold ordered forces to begin assembling to attack the south, at the virginia border.

If Mr Lincoln had begin his compaign further south, its quite possible Virginia would have stayed out of the war.

4 slave states never joined the confederacy.

"Charisma? Nixon?"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/7/newsid_3697000/36970 98.stm

Mr. Nixon won by a landside, 61% compared with 38% for his democrat opponent.

Yeah, I guess the American people voted for him because he was uncharismatic.

Herb

While I see no mention of "charisma" in the article, it was more about the voting for "the lesser of 2 evils",

Still, it's amazing how much things changed in 2 short years. Even If there ever was any Nixon "charisma".

Here's a great theory on (P)residential Charisma: (you'll love it, HerrB, really!)

It's Charisma, Stupid!

http://www.paulgraham.com/charisma.html

"Occam's razor says we should prefer the simpler of two explanations. I begin by reminding readers of this principle because I'm about to propose a theory that will offend both liberals and conservatives. But Occam's razor means, in effect, that if you want to disagree with it, you have a hell of a coincidence to explain."

"...These are the elections I remember personally, but apparently the same pattern played out in 1964 and 1972. The most recent counterexample appears to be 1968, when Nixon beat the more charismatic Hubert Humphrey. But when you examine that election, it tends to support the charisma theory more than contradict it. As Joe McGinnis recounts in his famous book The Selling of the President 1968, Nixon knew he had less charisma than Humphrey, and thus simply refused to debate him on TV. He knew he couldn't afford to let the two of them be seen side by side..."

Here's another bit on Nixon's "charisma"

http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-57153.html

"I don't care what you think of Nixon's politics, he's not a charismatic guy. Which leads me to wonder, were Humphrey and McGovern equally as uncharismatic as Nixon, less charismatic than Nixon, or did Nixon win solely on policy and nationalism, even if he didn't have charisma on his side."

Discuss.

Both Bushes have less charisma than Nixon, imo. I'm trying to think of anything positive I thought about Nixon. I remember thinking that he was smart. I think he's much smarter than Reagan, Bush and Bush.

It is, maybe, a little touching that he was bothered by so many young people who were mad at him that he tried to talk to them.

Nixon had a good sense of humor.

Name another President that would go on Laugh In and say "Sock it to me".

Both Nixon and Humphrey were invited to do cameos on Laugh-In in '68. Nixon accepted, Humphrey declined. Nixon won the election in a narrow victory. Laugh-In was the #1 TV show in the country at the time. Hmmm.

nixon could outcuss cheney.

He could out BIGOT Cheney also.

Let's not forget that historic meeting of Nixon and The King! He even brought a gift into the White House for Nixon, a WWII Colt .45

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/elvis/elnix.html

It's a Nixon quote-fest!

http://www.quotatio.com/n/nixon-richard-m-quotes.html

#22 is particularly apt.

Herb

"Nixon did not resign in disgrace, he resigned, because he put the interests of the country above his own. He could very well have continued in office, it would have been difficult to get enough votes to convict."

Wow. Do you think we all are dumb, or stupid, sir?

Nixon even said in his own autobiography that his resignation hand was forced when he learned that the Republican minority in the Senate was even turning against him, and there were enough votes to remove him. I know, I read it with my own four eyes. If Nixon had the best interests of the nation at heart, he would not have ordered the coverup of Watergate. He would not have destroyed and "misplaced" audio tapes of the Oval Office. He wouldn't have ordered the Plumbers to do their work.

Give it a rest.

Herb...
GIVE IT UP!
Nixon didn't want to leave and if you could just READ and learn a little more about Trick DICK then you would KNOW that Brianl is speaking truth. BUT we know what you think about the truth.
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!