http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/fifty-percent-of-americans-would-not-vote-for-c linton-2007-03-27.html
But then you can win an election with only about 25% of the voters.

So 50% of those polled said that they would not vote for Hillary? Doesn't that mean 50% might vote for her?

What's your point?

Those 50% who right now say that they won't vote for her may need to re-think that later if they want to vote for the lesser of 2 evils, which always seems to be the case these days.

Sorry Okie, everyone appears to be on the other thread of the same topic, and Andrew already said what I was thinking.

I don't care much for Hillary, but I'd pick her in a heartbeat over somebody like Romney...Having a puppet of the Mormon church in charge of this country is beyond scary.

>>>"Having a puppet of the Mormon church in charge of this country is beyond scary"

Just like John Kennedy was a puppet of the Catholic Church?

What we're really talking about here is bigotry. Shame on you.

Call it whatever you want. It won't change my opinion.

Thank God Kerry wasn't elected, we wouldn't want the Pope controlling our country.

"Run Hillary, Run"

Hey....thats what the bumper sticker on my front bumper says!!!!!

The one on the back says...."Sorry, you were not fast enough"

Oh bigotry is just fine for the left, as long as you're one of them.

Yet they're quick to call it when a conservative says something they don't like.

Classic leftist spin.

Little from our 'enlightened' liberal friends would surprise me anymore. They already lowered the bar so far with Mr. Clinton, with groups like the national organization of women giving him a pass on sexual harassment as long as they could keep their abortionist policies.

P.S. I don't carry water for the pope or mormons, but the left's hypocrisy reeks.

Herb

Guys, this is a solid example of bigotry where the person engaging it has no problem with it.

She made that totally clear.

All of us have our stopping points, however many of us will simply not admit them, or attempt to explain them away.

This one is simple: No Romney. I happen to agree. Don't exactly feel good about it, but I'm totally there, justified or not.

And it's not the left, it's a few of us here that just don't like the guy. For me, that's not a blanket statement against Mormons either. Romney just does not appeal to me in that Presidential way.

We get to say we don't like someobdy. What we should not do is try and justify that with a bunch of false crap, religion, or some other goofy construct.

eg: gays

Don't like them? Fine.

Don't like them because you claim God does not like them? Bullshit. That's using something as a crutch to explain what is otherwise a personal issue.

See the difference?

Hope so.

Thank you, MK!

I won't care if my daughter's gay, marries anybody of another ethnic group, or becomes a staunch Republican. I've also stated here many times, HerrB, DJ, et. al, that I'm not a flaming liberal.

I don't care about Teresa Heinz's citizenship, (IMO, She'd make a better president than Hilary and most of the men)

However, after living in Utah for over 10 years, I am terrified of having a Mormon president. While I quite like Gordon Smith on many issues, and totally believe in freedom of religion, I saw the hypocrisy, slavish power, and wretchedness of this 200-year old "cult" based on a white salamander over and over again. I do not harbor any ill-will or dislike to any individual LDS folks, but I think the machinations behind it are too frightening to be in control of this country. I honestly can't explain why the Catholic church does not arouse the same feelings in me.

I would be very upset if my daughter became involved in, or married into the Mormon church or any other cult: Rahjneeshi, Worldwide Church of God, Children of God, whatever.

I guarantee, so would all of you.

Does it frighten you that the majority leader in the Senate, Harry Reid, is a Mormon?

So far he's been decent about keeping his religious issues where they should be.

I'm not convinced Romney would do the same.

>>>"I'm not convinced Romney would do the same"

Why is that?

"Why is that?"

for one thing, I known of Reid for years and just now learned he was a Mormon, while Romney just surfaced and Mormon is the first thing that comes to mind.

"...For Utah Mormons and Republicans, who traditionally are largely one and the same, there is no small irony in the role Reid played in tilting the Senate's delicate balance away from the GOP. With his ascension to majority whip, second-in-command to Majority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota, Reid has set a new high-water mark in the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

No other member of the LDS Church has served in a higher leadership position in Congress.

Yet tempering that pride among the faithful is Reid's party affiliation. He is a Democrat, a party even Mormon Republican colleague Sen. Orrin Hatch has suggested is out of favor with the Almighty.

Reid's place in political history among Mormons comes with a footnote: Fellow church members are among his biggest detractors.

"The only aggravation I've had in politics as a member of the church has come from within the church," Reid told The Salt Lake Tribune in a 1998 interview. "Some people in the church write me letters about what a bad person I am; they've really tried to damage me."

Typical.

I just read his bio on Wiki, I love what he said about Bush Jr., so I might change my mind and vote for Reid, if he ran.

>>>"I just read his bio on Wiki, I love what he said about Bush Jr., so I might change my mind and vote for Reid, if he ran."

That's what we need Mrs. Merkin, a lot of depth and conviction before pulling the lever. Your approach is how we get all of these idiots in office in the first place.

I said "might", as in "I'm joking", and we don't "pull levers" out here, unless that's a euphimism for another thread regarding self-pleasuring. In that case, politics is the last thing on my mind when I'm "pulling the lever".

We vote by mail here, and believe me, I "hand" deliver my ballot at the last minute, after reading everything I can get my "hands" on, and making sure no last minute mind-changing scandal/crap/lie erupts during the time the ballots are received and election day.

I'm also proud to say that I'm not responsible for putting any of the current idiots in office, I say the majority of the current idiots are leftovers from the Bush regime that you and the morons voted for. Twice.

Yeah, that's TWICE!

Freaking love it.

And Skep's quick 'n dirty analysis works for me.

I want to expand on that.

The ideal situation is that one's religious bent does not matter when holding office. A solid respect for the law, our freedom and equality should provide plenty of guidence on these things.

Our reality today is starkly different! There are a lot of people (a growing body of people) thinking they are somehow entitled to legislate their convictions, without solid support for them, other than they really, really feel they are the right thing to do.

Reid has not engaged in very much of this. Had he done so, he would have gotten my attention.

Romney reeks of it.

That clear enough?

Give examples.

I'm not gonna do that this time around.

This just isn't my guy and that's all.

I'll give an example then.

Reid has put the Mormon church in a whole new perspective for me. I can no longer make certain blanket statements about Mormons since I now know it would be false.

Romney simply reinforced my previous thoughts about Mormons.

Romney regularly talks about being Mormon when interviewed.

There DD. There's an example.

That is not an example.

Romney is talking about being Mormon because the media and the public are talking about it.

He's responding to the question: can a Mormon be elected President?

Yes, but not that one.

You mean the Mormons who run for public office as Republicans.

No, I mean that one.

DA said>>>
Your approach is how we get all of these idiots in office in the first place.

So that's how DUHbya got in there?? I don't think MM was voting for DUHbya back in 2000.... DUH!

Hahahaha! Touche'!

Lovin' you, Trix!