It's a demo slugfest:

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/02/falling_on_geff.html

Even if one admires Mr. Clinton, the whole Marc Rich thing is inexcusable.

Herb

I would have never heard about this had you not worked so hard to find it. You're really having to scrape that barrel for stuff like this. It's so transparent that it's funny.

Everyone knows Hillary is more of a mittens kind of gal.

If only she loved a good matching muffler.

if only. For she would be the muffler of all candidates.

Is a muffler the same as a scarf?

Herb

Indeed it is, Herb.

Since she has that whole yuppie Yankee pose down now, it would be nicely topped with a matching woolen ensemble. As the winter winds blow, she will need a nice scarf to go with her mittens. She has proven to be untrustworthy, but apparently is not ungustworthy. I hope she stays warm and does good work in the Senate, because as a Presidential candidate, well, to paraphrase Herman Melville, she blows.

I hope the Democrats don't blow it by trying to breeze past her fundamental weaknesses as a leader. Her potential as a candidate has been blown out of proportion. She blew it with the American people by enabling the shrub to start a war. She would have avoided a move for impeachment by simply blowing her husband. The four winds are howling these days. Blow is boss. Everybody is into it. Our current leader, the shrub, likes a cold sixer of Lone Star, boxcars of blow and has blown up any chance of America winning hearts and minds around the world. We need a new wind, a wind of change.

*Casey Kasem voice* Here's a long distance dedication. This next tune is for two old friends and longtime listeners, Curious George and Capitol Hillary, it's by a Minnesota native and American icon, Bobby Z.

"How many roads must a man walk down
Before you call him a man?
Yes, 'n' how many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand?
Yes, 'n' how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

How many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky?
Yes, 'n' how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, 'n' how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

How many years can a mountain exist
Before it's washed to the sea?
Yes, 'n' how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free?
Yes, 'n' how many times can a man turn his head,
Pretending he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind."

And let's give credit to the accomplished author:
Mr. Bob Dylan.

Herb

Robert Zimmerman that is.

Hillary doesn't need a muffler, she needs a muzzle!

>>>"I would have never heard about this had you not worked so hard to find it. You're really having to scrape that barrel for stuff like this. It's so transparent that it's funny."


Not exactly so CJ. Geffen is a powerful guy who raises a lot of Hollywood cash. He's so unhappy over the Mark Rich thing he is working hard to switch the Hollywood cash to Obama, and he's doing it. Hillary is pretty uptight. It's all over the talk shows. I don't think Herb had to look very far. It hit him in the face.

Touche', Deane. I think I also saw it on Drudge.

Herb

"It's all over the talk shows."

Let me guess; Hannity, O'Rielly, Lars, and Rush, right?

What a shocker. I'm continually amazed at how the right is so afraid of Hillary. It's 2 years away, so I can't even imagine how dirty it's going to get.

Warner, you're ignoring the meat. Hollywood is switching from supporting the Clintons to backing Obama. That's a big deal. Has nothing to do with Conservatives.


>>>"Let me guess; Hannity, O'Rielly, Lars, and Rush, right?"


What else is there that's viable?

...as in breathing and capable of making noise?

Yeah, they will do.

Warner: I suspect it will get as dirty as it takes.

LOL @ Missing. Noise, like a tuba full of water. I also agree, Warner, you and me, heck all of us and the fencepost are in for a helluva show. We are going to see the destruction of one or perhaps both political parties in the next handful of months -- if they stay careless. Both sides have saddled up a powder keg and love a good cigar.

David Geffen made a heap of money from John Lennon and Kurt Cobain -- who would have just turned 40 -- when they died. I think that when he backs a candidate, however, he would rather they had a chance of surviving the race. Whatever he wants to say is his Constitutional right and if it shoots him or anyone else through their shoes, well, that is politics.

Obama is young, fresh and new. Hollywood is built on young, fresh and new. The old guard only sticks around if they really work themselves to death or have a cult following. Hillary has neither an illustrious body of work, nor rabid panty -- nor boxer, nor rose -- tossing fans. Obama is a star on the rise. Hillary is coming downstairs to the policemen and reporters, and all the while she keeps muttering about Cecil B. DeMille.

My ultimate female candidate would be as sassy as Ann Richards, as efficient and organized as Carol Kester (is Marcia Wallace available?) and as brave and selfless as Rosa Parks. Silly as it seems, I think that each one of us would also like to see a bit of our own Mom, like we can often see a bit of our Dad in a candidate. Joan of Arc and Amelia Earhart would be on the list, but they didn't wind up having a good time. I wouldn't hire Hillary to manage a restaurant, so why in God's name would I give her the button?

Its on the front page of msn so I didnt have any problem finding it as well.

I stand corrected then.

"Warner, you're ignoring the meat."

I think we've all had enough of the Ham-Fist™ MRE's to last a lifetime.

Besides, it's Lent.

DJ said>>>
What else is there that's viable?

LOL LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

More like... What is VILE!

"What else is there that's viable?"

Well, there's always that baby in Herb's thread.

AND I just saw the story on Good Morning America.

My GOD people! The Democrats are in TROUBLE! RUN FOR YOUR LIIIIIIVES!

" Ignoring meat " sums up so many of these threads. Ted Haggard. PETA. Lars.

This just in:

McCain slams Rumsfeld.
Cheney says McCain has apologized privately, should do so publicly.

The gloves are off now folks!


http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/19/mccain.ap/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/02/cheney-mccain-may-apol ogize-to.html

Damn pussy neo-CONers!

Given his defending the freedom of every one on this board with valour, I'd say Mr. McCain has more than earned his right to slam anyone whom he darn well pleases, including Mr. Rumsfeld.

Herb

He should have SLAMED DUHbya and CO. in 2000 and 2004 for what they did to him. And he should CONTINUE to slam them every day!

Two wrongs never make a right.

Everybody has free enough speech to slam one another, but that does not mean it should be done.

Far better to counter with solid facts and support for one's person or position. Always have the high ground that way.

Trading tit for tat simply marginalizes both parties.

Watch how Thom handles Lars for an excellent example of this.

Additionally, I don't want a President that does not grok these simple things.

"Two wrongs never make a right."

Yes, but 3 rights make a left!

NO amount of neo-CONers make a right.


EVER!

"I think we've all had enough of the Ham-Fist™ MRE's to last a lifetime."

Still LMAO. Yellow packets raining down on the desert floor like Afghanistan in 2001. Hey, that's not salt, no, hey don't eat the des---ic----cant. Bleah, why did you do that? No, I am not hungry, and besides that other one is a cluster bomb, not an MRE. I know, bright yellow, heck, they look almost identical. Don't thr----