Author: Alfredo_t Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 7:25 pm |
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In the Hillsboro area, some houses have Yagi rooftop antennas with elements that look shorter than those on standard UHF television Yagis. Judging by the size of the elements, I would guess that they are designed for frequencies around 1 GHz. For what service are or were these antennas used? |
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Author: Andy_brown Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 7:56 pm |
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The original HBO service via microwave. |
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Author: Jr_tech Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 8:03 pm |
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Vertical or horizontal polarization ? Are they all pointed in approx same direction? Can you give the approximate location of one, so I could take a look ? |
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Author: Alfredo_t Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 11:03 pm |
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They are horizontally polarized and pointed southeast. I'd initially suspected that they were channel 22 antennas, but the elements look a bit short. |
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Author: Washnotore2 Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 11:34 pm |
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Could it be some big WiFi test going on? |
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Author: Jr_tech Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 1:22 am |
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In the Hillsboro area the KECH-22 Yagis were usually mounted on short masts (4-5 ft) and braced with 2 metal straps (no guy wires). The Yagis were only about 8-10 elements, and mounted so that all of the elements were on one side of the mast, toward the transmitter. A small box (booster or down-converter?) was usually mounted just below the antenna. |
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Author: Paulwarren Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:26 am |
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Intel uses an unlicensed wireless broadband between its Hillsboro campuses and some area employees homes. 2.4 GHz, I think. |
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Author: Sutton Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 8:49 am |
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For us non-engineers, Yagi is "smarter than the average bear," right? |
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Author: Jimbo Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 9:32 am |
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A year or so after they shut down the KECH-22 PPV movies, you could go to Cascade Surplus on N.Denver Avenue and find, in the back corner, a bunch of the converter boxes and a bunch of those antennas, complete with amplifier. I bought one antenna and amp for about $5, I think. For what?????? Why did I buy anything in there? It was a Friday afternoon treasure hunt!!! |
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Author: Jr_tech Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 11:24 am |
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Alfredo_t: |
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Author: Thatonedude Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 1:09 pm |
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Here's a question for you guys. |
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Author: 62kgw Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 1:17 pm |
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There was bunch of people using something similar to receive HBO (i think) in the 80's. HBO (?) sent out roving observers to document all of the addresses of houses where they could see the antennas, and then had their lawyers send a little note to the suspect addresses. |
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Author: Jr_tech Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 2:39 pm |
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Thatonedude: |
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Author: Humbleharv Friday, February 16, 2007 - 1:10 am |
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No, the can just had an antenna attached to an N-Connector. From there, Most had a barrel N connector to a box. That box either hung from that "can" or it was mounted to the mast and connected by a short piece of coax. The down converter was in that box. A DC voltage was sent up the regular coax (RG-6 or RG-59) Adjusting that voltage would tune the unit. |
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Author: Jr_tech Friday, February 16, 2007 - 10:53 am |
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Ah! that would be an easy way to tell... if the can has an "N" connector, it is just an antenna, If it has a "F" connector there is likely to be a down-converter inside the can that must be removed before the device could be used as a WiFi antenna. |
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Author: Kent_randles Friday, February 16, 2007 - 12:17 pm |
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A yagi is a type of antenna. Co-inventer: Hidetsugu Yagi. Patented in 1926. |
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Author: Alfredo_t Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:09 pm |
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Thanks for the tip, Jr_tech. I looked at the antenna on the house across the street from the school. This one definitely looks like a UHF television antenna, judging by the length of the elements. I'll have to make a closer comparison between this and the other ones, as I think they have shorter elements and no amplifier/downconverter box. |
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Author: Thatonedude Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 3:02 am |
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"Thanks for the tip, Jr_tech." |
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Author: Jimbo Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 12:12 pm |
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If you look real hard at the other end of the N connector (on the inside), you will probably see a little stub about an inch or so long That is the pickup point for the antenna. It is soldered on the center conductor on the inside of the can. I forget the exact length and I also forget the distance from the back of the can. We used to make them out of old (Folgers) coffee cans. I hauled my last "commercial" one to the dump 4 months ago. it was getting in the way just taking up space in the garage. The downconverter died years ago. |
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