Well, here is one of what is probably a lot of links:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_on_re_us/haggard_sex_allegations;_ylt=AlSXSg6QYV6lhp_6_XLJJqus0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OTB1amhuBHNlYwNtdHM

That didn't take very long, now did it?

"It was also the oversight board that strongly urged Haggard to go into secular work."

Yeah, I'll bet! Essentially, the line is that we've documented you only acting out! Now, go bury your head in the sand somewhere and stay outta the lime light, before there is another incident!

Pursuing masters in Psychology? Wow! The search for rationalization goes to new heights! Good luck on that one.

Sad...

Hey, if those guys in the Snickers Superbowl ad can turn gay by kissing, then de-gaying Haggard couldn't be that tough.

Just remember, gayness is a problem to be solved, not a facet of the human condition.

I'm still left with the question of who/what gayed him in the first place? Because, y'know, it couldn't POSSIBLY be something he was born with or anything...

I think he just got sucked into the lifestyle.

First of all, I assume the facetiousness of my above post is apparent.

Second, how does a fully heterosexual person get "sucked" (poor choice of words) into a homosexual lifestyle? Being married, being a leader in the church...he had about as much reinforcement of a straight lifestyle as one can have.

I don't buy it. He must have come to life with those tendencies. I doubt he is "gay", but likely has some feelings of bisexuality. And if those feelings are inborn, no amount of treatment will fully purge them. Nor should it. He is who he is, and that's fine. To pretend otherwise is the sin.

I assume the facetiousness of my above post is apparent too.

Haggard was quoted as saying, about the gay lifestyle, "I'm just not down with that." (more facetiousness)

I suspect he will be using the de-gaying techniques he learned in his new career as a counselor. I can see the books, videos, and even a talk show on TBN coming soon.

"30 Days to Heterosexuality!" by Ted Haggard.

Ahhhhh......

He was born gay, grew up in an oppressive environment and took his first adult opportunity to quietly explore his natural tendencies.

Being a straight observer with many gay friends, I find the obviously latent ones to be among the most macho, iron pumping, mirror preening and self-absorbed folks in the bunch. They go to the gym, spend a great deal of time around naked fellers and are routinely disappointed in their girlfriends.

J. Edgar Hoover was a fruit. His denial of this basic part of his being made him into a dangerous reactionary with a lot of power that he routinely abused. It is no wonder that "Teddy" was the leader of a large group of evangelicals.

Want to find a closeted gay person? See who protests the loudest when you talk about homosexuality as something that is natural.

Amus, you kill me!

I was watching a documentary last night and they showed and talked about an experiment where they interviewed, and then tested a large group of heterosexual male college students, and split them into 2 groups; those who were accepting of homosexuality, and those who felt it was wrong.

The researchers had them (individually) watch gay porn with a little wire-type device around their penis to measure their arousal levels. Interestingly, the men who were "against" homosexuality had a much larger "rise" while watching the porn!

While I weighed in with a reasoned argument, I have to admit, re-reading it all, Amus, Edsel, Warner and Mrs. M. made me laugh the "hardest." According to my calculations, facetious is much more fun.

Totally agreed!

You can only have fun with a topic like this if everyone is on the same wavelength. Otherwise it's a minefield.

That said, I wish Haggard the best with his New 100% Hetero, Fruit-Free lifestyle. Bon Appetite, Mrs. Haggard.

"Bon Appetite, Mrs. Haggard."

LMAO!

He is never gonna be able to capitalize on his old pickup line again, "Hey sailor, you ever played on a big church organ?"

Oh man, it's like a turkey shoot. I feel for his kids frankly. Hope it's a really small and outta the way town.

He should at least change his hair or get glasses or something. They might have a fighting chance.

Damn, no more "Mr. Rode Hard and Haggard!" introductions, unless the Mrs. has picked up a trick or two!

"He should at least change his hair or get glasses or something."

You mean like a makeover? I bet he would look fablulous!

Poor Haggard.

Mama tried, but the fightin' side of him found an Okie from Muskogee. He gave hungry eyes to Pancho and Lefty on skid row, before he broke every heart that he could. He is a branded man because he walked through those swinging doors and threw away the rose. It was just between the two of them, but now his friends are gonna be strangers.

Yeah, I think a make over, and then he could star in Broke Butt Mountain II

I feel bad for him. Yeah, yeah - I know - I'm a bleeding heart liberal. DAMN that caring stuff.

I know it would be easy to say things like " He brought it on himself and was a big hypocrite and deserves it and blah blah blah..." But you can clearly see, right in his eyes, that he didn't have a choice and fought it as long as he could. He wanted SO bad to be " normal." And that he was told for years that he was not is just too tragic for words.

I would like to thank God for exposing him though. Not for our or my judgment for it - but for other reasons. Namely, his position of power to hurt others has been taken away now. And for that I am grateful.

The Lord works in mysterious ways, man. Gotta dig it sometimes.

"The Lord works in mysterious ways, man. Gotta dig it sometimes."

Amen.

Sorry to keep stroking this subject, butt maybe the town he's moving to has no tanning salon, and he can start a little side business renting out his own personal tanning bed in his new garage, if he even has a garage at his new double-wide. I agree he'll eventually make a huge wad from all this and be the All American poster boy of redemption.

And you guys are NUTS thinking the Mrs. is even going to let him see her bra strap until she sees his HIV test results in both 6 and 12 months. Male Escorts? Drugs?

I also bet there are many more "cured" and/or "strictly hetero" former partners who don't want the pube-licity and screw-tiny of their torrid "hook-ups" revealed.

Very valid point. Mrs. is probably wearing a barbed wire hoop skirt.

And a chastity belt. Under a merkin, natch!

Total digression:

My friend Keith and I have a head to head fantasy baseball league. We each get two teams, one for the AL and one for the NL. For years, my two teams have been the "Natural League" and the "Merkin League."

I think I'm going to cry, I'm so proud that I have a team to cheer for!

The draft is in a month, any players you would like on the team that is your namesake? You can play George Steinbrenner here in the preseason, the only rub is that they have to currently play in the "Merkin" league.