Author: Broadway Monday, January 15, 2007 - 8:21 am |
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from wire services.... |
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Author: Exradioguy Monday, January 15, 2007 - 8:58 am |
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Hope they had all the legal in place befor this stunt. My guess is with no waiver of liability there will be several jobs sacraficed. I am sad for the loss, death never makes good radio. |
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Author: The_dude2 Monday, January 15, 2007 - 10:01 am |
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Here is a link to local TV coverage of the tragedy: |
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Author: The_dude2 Monday, January 15, 2007 - 10:13 am |
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More from the Sacramento Bee: |
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Author: Timryan Monday, January 15, 2007 - 11:07 am |
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No one should lose their jobs over this, and no lawsuits should be filed. I imagine that there was SOME kind of document signed. It's an accident- plain and simple. I'm sure some that a gaggle of ambulance chasers have been on the horn to the family of the late woman. |
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Author: Rsb569 Monday, January 15, 2007 - 11:33 am |
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Enterscum at it again. They like to kill radio stations, why not kill the listeners too? |
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Author: Paulwalker Monday, January 15, 2007 - 12:00 pm |
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An "accident"? Hardly. It was a known scientific fact that people can die from drinking too much water. (Read above about how a college hazing incident killed a California student a couple of years ago.) Waiver or no waiver, the radio station should have known better. |
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Author: Alfredo_t Monday, January 15, 2007 - 1:04 pm |
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This is a really sad commentary on our society that people would willingly risk their lives for video game machines and pool tables. If the worst thing that could happen were for contestants to pee their pants, this stunt would be funny; tragically, that was not the case. |
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Author: Notalent Monday, January 15, 2007 - 2:21 pm |
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they should have ask expert advice if they did not know. |
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Author: Paulwalker Monday, January 15, 2007 - 2:29 pm |
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I wonder how they are handling this on the air, if at all. Nothing on their website either. Probably for legal reasons. I agree with others there will be a lawsuit here. |
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Author: Wannabe Monday, January 15, 2007 - 4:24 pm |
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I feel sorry for the woman who died. That is tragic. But, I feel even more sorry that she was dumb enough to participate in a contest of this nature. It's about time people started assuming responsibility for their own actions. The radio station screwed-up by picking an idiotic contest, the listener screwed-up even more by participating. Is the station's promotional department lame, yes, of course, pathetically lame. Should they suffer some huge legal responsiblity. No frickin way! However, the blood sucking celebrity lawyers will be standing in line for this one. |
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Author: Boss_boy Monday, January 15, 2007 - 6:11 pm |
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they pulled the show indefinetely, and posted |
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Author: Paulwalker Monday, January 15, 2007 - 6:23 pm |
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Thanks Boss_Boy for the update of a story many PD's and GM's have been following all day. The website message (new this afternoon) has a very "legal" look to it...unfortunately, the legal matters will now become more important than the actual tragedy. But that's life in 2007. PD's all across the country are now sharing this story with their staffs, which isn't a bad thing. |
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Author: 62kgw Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:02 pm |
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Anybody who "approved" this contest should be shown the door for stupidity, plus the person who is next up the chain should be pay a price for hiring the idiots. Did entercom's legal department review it in advance? Would be intersting what ages and education levels were involved. 6th grade graduates? |
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Author: Paulwalker Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:22 pm |
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Absolutely, 62. I have been surprised how many posters seem to be defending Entercom in this situation. While I agree one needs to take personal responsibility, radio stunts should not encourage dangerous, life-threatening behavior in any way or form. This has been a building problem for years, and hopefully this episode will teach some (dare, I say, younger broadcasters), that there are some lines you simply don't cross. And upper management, as you point out, is equally, if not more responsible, hence my interest in this topic. |
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Author: 62kgw Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:38 pm |
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There have been numourous eating contests in the past, like eating the most hot dogs. Don't know if any of those are sponsored by radio stations or not. Seem risky for someone to sponser that type of thing. What about run/walk events? |
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Author: Missing_kskd Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:44 pm |
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Completely agree. |
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Author: Notalent Monday, January 15, 2007 - 9:55 pm |
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Maybe Marconi could do a bit and laugh at the woman... |
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Author: Oldbroadcaster Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 12:29 am |
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Those who defend Entercom in this situation, are young and naive, just like the brilliant minds who carried out this stunt. |
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Author: Timryan Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 5:28 am |
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Let me put this in perspective: |
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Author: Radioboy25 Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 7:05 am |
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20 million dollar settlement here....and those disclaimers listeners sign? You can use them as Charmin when it comes to a death due to stupidity. |
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Author: Leewhite Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 12:40 pm |
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But for Entercom's sponsoring a contest, it is unlikely that the woman would have consumed mass quantities of water in a short amount of time and then died. Entercom also apparently took no medical precautions whatsoever and ignored a warning from a caller who claimed to be a nurse (believe me, the plaintiff's attorney will track her down in time for the trial). Pay up! As an aside, I expect more stupid stunts like this one as radio attempts to stave off its inevitable demise at the hands of .mp3 players and Wi-Fi. |
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Author: Omega3 Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 12:57 pm |
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She died after drinking only a half gallon of water? |
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Author: Ronkbzy Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 2:15 pm |
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The general manager and the people involved must lose their jobs. I agree with radioboy25. Waivers don't prevent people from filing lawsuits. The bull poker analogy isn't the same. Those people know they are going to get hurt. This lady didn't know that. If my family member died and the people who did the stunt kept their jobs, it would make their death meaningless. I hope this causes a "shockwave" around the country. Maybe stations won't do so many stunts that could hurt people. |
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Author: Radio921 Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 2:36 pm |
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There will be a management shake up for it. Almost guaranteed. I am sure it has the whole company on eggshells. |
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Author: Radio921 Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 2:38 pm |
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Entercom fires ten employees at Sacramento's "End", says the Bee newspaper. |
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Author: Paulwalker Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 2:49 pm |
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Wow. I thought heads would roll, but ten employees. Good move. |
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Author: Leewhite Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 2:54 pm |
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There are many variables that affect the way a human body handles fluid. The woman could have had kidney problems that prevented her from getting rid of the fluid fast enough. Maybe she had congestive heart failure or an existing electrolyte imbalance. Perhaps female hormones caused her to retain water. Doctors and nurses spend many blissful hours studying the effects of fluid on various body systems. It's never a good idea to dump large amounts of any substance into the body in a short period of time unless one does so in a medically-controlled environment. I understand the morning show has been pulled off the air. This one was way worse than the WKRP turkey drop and will likely cost Entercom a lot of money. |
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Author: Paulwalker Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 2:56 pm |
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Pulled off the air permanently, evidently. All Access is reporting among the casualties are Program Director Steve Weed, all of the morning show members, the promotion director, and others. As of now, though, the Vice-President of the station keeps his job! |
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Author: Ronkbzy Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 3:10 pm |
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Why does the boss make the most money? Part of the reason is that they are responsible for everything on their watch. If the GM/VP knew about the promotion and allowed it to happen, they should fall on their sword. |
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Author: Darktemper Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 3:49 pm |
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The captain of that ship was probably a rat and left before it sank! |
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Author: Bob Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 4:09 pm |
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Ten Dismissed At KDND Over Water-Drinking Contest Death |
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Author: Radio921 Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 4:10 pm |
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I believe someone in upper management will get let go before the weeks' out. (Or made to "resign") |
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Author: The_dude2 Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 5:17 pm |
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I doubt it, Radio921. It sounds like everyone who was involved with the stunt has been shown the door. |
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Author: Notalent Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 5:19 pm |
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Time to send T&R to Sacto! |
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Author: Paulwalker Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 5:23 pm |
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PD Steve Weed was the highest exec to go...so far. |
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Author: The_dude2 Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 5:28 pm |
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Maybe Doctor Doug & Skippy will get Entercom to send them to Sacramento so they can do Top 40 again |
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Author: 62kgw Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 6:45 pm |
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How about the station facilities and license be sold at auction, the proceeds going to the 3 kids? |
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Author: Nitefly Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 7:46 pm |
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Excellent idea, although I'm frankly not sure which is worse: a station that assumes its listeners are all morons, or listeners who confirm that judgment. "Hold your wee for a Wii." Jeez. Wonder what the promos for that one sounded like. |
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Author: Ronkbzy Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 8:16 am |
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The comment from "Inside Radio" says it best. |
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Author: Grady Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 3:41 pm |
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I wonder if KUFO is negotiating with that fired morning show to bump Cort & Fatboy? |
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Author: Bobmiller Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 3:43 pm |
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From R&R: |
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Author: Mysterydj Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 4:08 pm |
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Hopefully this will put an end to this ridiculous era of stupid radio stunts. Whoever thought this one up (and other stupid people tricks) has been standing too close to the transmitter. |
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Author: Radioboy25 Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 4:40 pm |
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Author: Mysterydj Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 4:49 pm |
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Oh my gawd! That aircheck is chilling! |
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Author: Paulwalker Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 5:25 pm |
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Does anyone want to still defend Entercom and the station after hearing that? |
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Author: Cochise Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 5:26 pm |
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its why working in radio is one step up from the drive thru at wendys. |
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Author: Radio921 Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 5:43 pm |
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Would you like to Biggie size your combo? |
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Author: Roger Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 7:00 pm |
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see, stick to the cards and be the 100th caller nationwide, and nobody gets hurt. Now back to a 30 day commercial free music marathon and we kick it off with Fleetwood Mac.............. |
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Author: 62kgw Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 7:59 pm |
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Can anyone come up with more dumb and unhealty contests for entercom to try? |
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Author: Cochise Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 8:01 pm |
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couple years ago when Marconi was on 94.7 they had some people eat a sandwich pull of pubic hairs, and while nobody could die from that it set the standard for exactly what Entercom is all about. |
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Author: Dan_packard Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:00 pm |
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My God, this is so depressing to hear. It’s the most horrible kind of radio -- you usually hear one or two morning shows like this in every city nowadays -- juvenile Howard Stern wannabees with not one iota of originality. Their main focus is to demean and wring out every last drop of dignity from listeners, while dangling the proverbial carrot in front of them. |
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Author: Deane_johnson Monday, January 15, 2007 - 9:32 am |
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While I think the contest is pretty stupid, but rather reflective of today's radio industry, I think it's one of those things that would be hard to foresee. I should think any one of us could have walked into that mess. Somehow, I never realized drinking too much water could kill you. |
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Author: Darktemper Monday, January 15, 2007 - 9:35 am |
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There were probably underlying problems that contributed to it but the excess water just set it off. Unfortuneate that this person died as a result of what was an innocent contest. |
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Author: Paulwalker Monday, January 15, 2007 - 9:39 am |
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Going to have to disagree, Darktemper. Radio stations need to think about all ramifications before doing stunts like this. It's part of being responsible broadcasters. |
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Author: The_dude2 Monday, January 15, 2007 - 10:03 am |
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All the promotions director had to do was google "too much water" and in 10 seconds, they could have learned that too much water can kill. Lucky for them, they had signed waivers. It's horrible PR, though. |
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Author: Roger Monday, January 15, 2007 - 10:14 am |
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they had signed waivers...... |
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Author: The_dude2 Monday, January 15, 2007 - 10:19 am |
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Of course there will be a lawsuit. I am no expert on legal documents, but I would be shocked if the signed waivers don't hold up in court. |
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Author: Paulwalker Monday, January 15, 2007 - 10:25 am |
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The station should have never done the promotion. |
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Author: The_dude2 Monday, January 15, 2007 - 10:40 am |
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I disagree. It's juvenile, no doubt about it, however, their station is aimed at people who would be amused with jackass type stunts. If they would have had the contest ended by a doctor, no one would have died and they could have settled it with some sort of equally juvenile tiebreaker. Maybe weigh their used depends and the wii goes to the heaviest pair. They just didn't fully think it through. |
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Author: Darktemper Monday, January 15, 2007 - 2:56 pm |
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I was saying that the woman may have had an unknown bladder infection or someing along that lines as an underlying issue that caused her to die. It is unfortuneate so are you never going to have any contests? I could sue the radio for causing me to become depressed as I can never get through on the contest line and am bummed out that I did not win so I quit my job and got divorced as a result....and it's all the stations fault! |
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Author: Paulwalker Monday, January 15, 2007 - 3:22 pm |
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Darktemper, I think your analogy is a bit far-fetched. Nobody is saying "don't do contests". However, radio stations are still here to serve the public. Or have we thrown out that idea here in 2007? Personal responsibility is one thing, but a radio station encouraging something like this is ugly. |
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Author: Andy_brown Monday, January 15, 2007 - 3:39 pm |
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"However, radio stations are still here to serve the public. Or have we thrown out that idea here in 2007?" |
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Author: Darktemper Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:15 pm |
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You know this is really a legal battle for Entercom and I would be interested in seeing any future news on this issue. It was a bit far fetched but still were do people themselves have the responsibility to find out if drinking to much water can kill them. Would it have made any difference if there was a warning on the waiver....probably not. Just like people still smoke in spite of the cancer warning. When you order coffee you can expect that it will be hot. When you spill hot stuff on you it will burn. I do feel that there is something to it though that has been said as maybe the promotions manager should have checked with a doctor to see if there would be any possible reaction in drinking a lot of water. But who would think that aside from drowning in it water could kill you....I did not know about that and I think it fair to say most people prior to this did not either. |
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Author: Randy_in_eugene Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 12:05 am |
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As someone said on another board, "The audio is damning." |
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Author: Bunsofsteel Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 12:33 am |
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IDIOTS! |
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Author: Bunsofsteel Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 12:35 am |
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The dj's on that station are complete RETARDS! It's a given that most radio listeners that follow radio stations around are dingbats. |
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Author: Paulwarren Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 12:42 am |
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Years ago, I remember "jackass"-style stunts by jocks, but involving listeners in dangerous stunts is a newer phenomenon. There are morning when I get up, and my back reminds me of a donkey baseball game I played as a jock at WNYR/Rochester NY in the 70s, but no listeners got hurt. |
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Author: Justin_timberfake Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 12:44 am |
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The Nintendo Wii's are definitely not worth dying over, Now the play Station 3............Thats another story! |
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Author: Radioboy25 Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 5:33 am |
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law suit was filed today. Entercom & sponsors better roll out a few brilliant Attorneys. This will make the record books for settlements. |
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Author: Radioboy25 Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 5:37 am |
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(law journal) |
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Author: Radioboy25 Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 5:46 am |
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Criminal Charges Possible In Water-Drinking Contest |
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Author: Rlanm Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 7:08 am |
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Haven't heard anything about a "bottled water Co." sponcor. Heads could roll there as well. |
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Author: Tdanner Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 9:25 am |
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Considering the scope of those who were fired (i.e. the entire morning show team, PD, and promotions) and those who weren't (i.e. top management) -- I'd bet that the contest was pretty spur of the moment ("boss, can we give away a wii on the morning show") and never checked out by management or Entercom legal. |
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Author: Kkb Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 10:18 am |
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Wasn't the station GM fired also? |
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Author: Mysterydj Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 11:49 am |
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I'm reposting my contribution to this conversation (since it seems to have been deleted). I'm hoping that this incident will finally put an end to this rediculous era of |
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Author: Paulwalker Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 11:53 am |
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Mystery, and Dan... |
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Author: Craig_adams Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 12:51 pm |
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Dan moved both threads together. |
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Author: Bestdj Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 3:39 pm |
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create good compelling radio? serve the people? I wake up and my back hurts but no-one got hurt? IT"S ABOUT THE DOLLAR how to make more and pay out less, how to cut corners and how the save more MONEY! It stopped being about the listners along time ago. All that happened here is a new line has been drawn. A new boundry to be broken. Something else to be topped. The woman could have stopped at any time!!!!!!! She choose not to even after complaining? She signed a waiver without knowing the risks? She continued even after a nurse called in and related the facts as to what could and eventually did happen....STILL she continued to drink water. People lost their jobs, it will cost millions... and life goes on. It's indeed sad and tragic that someone lost her life. Maybe we should all be complaining about the price of a Wi. It sounds to me like the price was and still is to high!!!!! |
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Author: 62kgw Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 3:55 pm |
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OK, your Entercom, whats your attorney's arguement: |
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Author: Paulwalker Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 3:59 pm |
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Speaking of litigation, the lawyers have started their barrage. Check this out... |
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Author: Darktemper Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 4:06 pm |
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Offer them a fifty million dollar settlement and a sincere appology from the President or CEO of Entercom in person and publicly! No excuses....the station and it's parent company are responsible no matter what the employee's did and who knew or did not know about it. JUST MAKE IT RIGHT AS POSSIBLE....given what has happened. Nothing will ever make it right but don't lowball and insult these people. |
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Author: Nwokie Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 4:37 pm |
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I dont think the company should pay anything, its not like they held her down and poured the water down her throat. |
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Author: Darktemper Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 5:22 pm |
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Well that said then the station should then be responsible for their action in not having medical staff on hand to check for life threatening signs......like....my head hurts! Yes people should be somewhat responsible for their own actions so should the station and the parent company be responsible for their actions and sadly the lack of action to have the woman checked out! No matter what we think Entercom will lose any lawsuit brought against them so why not just make it as right as possible without the legal proceedings? Even if they actually won in court they still lose from the bad Press as a result. |
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Author: Radioboy25 Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 9:13 pm |
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Author: Paulwalker Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 9:28 pm |
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The death of Jennifer is tragic, and should not be forgotten. |
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Author: Craig_adams Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 10:02 pm |
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"Don & Mike" were also talking about it tonight. They as I, feel so bad for "Her" and for the "DJ's" that are left on THE END. Can you imagine the phone calls during Your shift? They probably don't even let the DJ's answer the phone. Don & Mike were surprised they haven't changed format yet or just turned off the carrier for a few days, then launch a new format. |
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Author: Radioxpert Friday, January 19, 2007 - 1:27 am |
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This has to be one of the worst tragedies, the radio business has ever seen. |
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Author: Bhone2000 Friday, January 19, 2007 - 6:09 am |
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On Tuesday, KDND's parent company, Entercom/Sacramento, fired 10 employees connected to the contest, including three morning disc jockeys. The company also took the morning show off the air. |
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Author: Roger Friday, January 19, 2007 - 7:48 am |
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...People should be responsible for their own actions...... |
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Author: Kkb Friday, January 19, 2007 - 7:49 am |
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Do we know if the GM was fired also? Certainly should have been. |
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Author: Beano Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 2:29 am |
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"They were small little half-pint bottles, so we thought it was going to be easy," said fellow contestant James Ybarra of Woodland. "They told us if you don't feel like you can do this, don't put your health at risk." |
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Author: Daveyboy1 Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 9:22 pm |
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I recall the station in the 70s asK108 KXOA Sacramento's Mellow Home. I guess AC. Kind of a Kink type or like where Murdock is k103.I think contestant took risk wasn't too bright The station people aren't too bright for doing this Responsibility has to go both ways. At my age it's easy to avoid ''End'' Stns. bring back K108. |
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Author: Bob Monday, January 22, 2007 - 12:52 pm |
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Attorney In Water-Drinking Death Asks FCC To Pull KDND's License |
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Author: Beano Monday, January 22, 2007 - 5:30 pm |
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AMEN- Close that POS station down! Putting peoples lives in danger just to get ratings. PATHETIC! |
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Author: Darktemper Monday, January 22, 2007 - 5:50 pm |
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OK.....then close down TV stations that air "Fear Factor" "Survivor" and the like. They are worse than a water drinking contest. And while we are at it how about movie theatres that show "Jack Ass" movies. I am not condoning this but there are other ratings mongers out there as well....lets go after them also before someone else gets killed.......then were do we go after that? |
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Author: Paulwalker Monday, January 22, 2007 - 6:18 pm |
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Darktemper, again...most radio stations do not have the resources nor interest in providing back-up for these stunts. Further, when well-meaning listeners called in warning about the dangers, the jocks laughed them off. This is what is so "criminal" about it. This kind of trying to be more outrageous than the last stunt has been going on for years and if there is anything at all good to come from this, it is that this kind of radio will go bye-bye and maybe we can get back to creative promotions that don't automatically aim to the lowest common denominator. |
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Author: Radioxpert Monday, January 22, 2007 - 7:08 pm |
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Pulling 107.9 off the air, is NOT in the best interest of the community. |
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Author: Eugeneradiogirl Monday, January 22, 2007 - 7:23 pm |
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The staff members at KDND were extremely foolish and uncaring, but I honestly don't think they're criminals. |
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Author: Missing_kskd Monday, January 22, 2007 - 8:06 pm |
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Manslaughter charges are brought when people could have prevented a death with some common sense, but didn't. (among other things) |
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Author: Paulwalker Monday, January 22, 2007 - 8:19 pm |
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Eugeneradiogirl, yah, what Missing said...plus, |
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Author: Bunsofsteel Monday, January 22, 2007 - 8:24 pm |
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Those jocks were well aware that You could die from this! They were told numerous times and they continued to laugh it off and say "She signed release" basically saying who gives a shit what happends. |
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Author: Paulwalker Monday, January 22, 2007 - 8:42 pm |
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Actually, the more I think about this...that is exactly what "manslaughter" is...death caused without intention. Sounds like this is going to be the charge. A jury will decide. (The prosecuters are claiming KDND is holding back evidence...) The whole thing will play out in the courts, but it is not looking so good for The End. If they ARE able to hold on to their license, I agree, a major format re-brand will be necessary. I don't recall anything like this ever happening in the our biz. |
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Author: Missing_kskd Monday, January 22, 2007 - 8:46 pm |
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There is your intent right there. |
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Author: Bunsofsteel Monday, January 22, 2007 - 8:58 pm |
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Isn't there An "End" in Seattle??? Im wondering if they will have to change their name even though it has nothing to do with them. |
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Author: Paulwalker Monday, January 22, 2007 - 9:10 pm |
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Doubt it. While a national story, will be forgotten by most outside the biz. (Maybe a quick national mention when the jury reaches verdict). |
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Author: Paulwalker Monday, January 22, 2007 - 9:27 pm |
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Of course, there is always a possibility of an out-of-court settlement...but something tells me this will go to full trial. |
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Author: 62kgw Monday, January 22, 2007 - 9:29 pm |
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How about they reallocate the 10 employee budget surplus up here to 91 and re-hire the a full staff of DJ's for KKISN? |
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Author: Missing_kskd Monday, January 22, 2007 - 10:09 pm |
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You know there is. |
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Author: Radioboy25 Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 6:29 am |
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Attorney Asks FCC to ''Terminate'' KDND's License |
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Author: Deane_johnson Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 7:34 am |
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>>>"Attorney Asks FCC to ''Terminate'' KDND's License" |
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Author: Kkb Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 7:53 am |
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In the current environment, I think it could happen...not without alot of legal moves, but still very possible. |
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Author: Mysterydj Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 8:10 am |
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"only be able to try and get ratings by executing stupidity." |
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Author: Timryan Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 8:18 am |
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I know this is an unpopular opinion here, BUT I think the wrong blame is being placed, and too much scrutiny is happening. |
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Author: Copernicus Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 8:48 am |
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I think that since, as radio people, we are there to entertain...the lawyers are there to check legality and how harmful something should be. This is what happens when you have a bunch of overpaid, lazy, sloth lawyers that don't do their job. |
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Author: Tdanner Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 9:19 am |
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( cue spooky music...) |
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Author: Deane_johnson Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 10:46 am |
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Tdanner, excellent analysis. Another who lost all the licenses was Don Burden. If you're unfit, you're unfit in the eyes of the FCC. |
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Author: Tdanner Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 12:06 pm |
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Although IMHO, Deane, Burden actually was an unfit licensee. RKO was the victim of a GM paperwork error, and a policy that encouraged license challenges as a form of corporate greenmail. |
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Author: Deane_johnson Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 12:24 pm |
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As I recall, Burden's problems started with a post-midnight contest on WIFE to give away a water softner and their were no entries, so they gave it to a staff member. Later, an unhappy ex-employee reported it to the Commission. |
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Author: Darktemper Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 12:43 pm |
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What percentage would all of you say the contestant in any competition is liable? You know what is involved before you do it, you sign a release, and you compete for whatever prize is offered. Would you not check and see if it was harmful to you before you competed.....I mean they have you sign a release so that says to me that there may be some risk involved. Yes the people acted as if they did not care and should have had warnings listed on the release as to the potential danger and if symtoms result seek medical assistance immediately......you know like cigarettes have a cancer warning and warnings to pregnant women but people still smoke them anyway and die from cancer and have children with birth defects as a result. THE PEOPLE COMPETEING IN THESE CONTESTS ARE MORE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN WELL BEING THAN OTHERS ARE! Yes it was irresponsible when the woman complained that her head hurt and nobody did anything about it. Had there been an EMT on hand he would have probably got her to go to the hospital for treatment as he would have recognized the symptoms. I hope the family wins huge but this will most likely be settled out of court for an undisclosed amount. |
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Author: Joe_ferguson Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 3:54 pm |
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Deane said: "As I recall, Burden's problems started with a post-midnight contest on WIFE to give away a water softner and their were no entries, so they gave it to a staff member. Later, an unhappy ex-employee reported it to the Commission. |
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