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New Daria O’Neil and Mitch Elliott afternoon show on 1051
The Buzz Portland, OR seeks producer. Must-have skills are
audio editing and production, call-screening, and show
imaging. Creative brainstorming, writing, public relations
show scheduling and on-air interaction a plus. Part-time
position. Resume, audio and photo to Jeff McHugh at
dariaandmitch@mac.com.
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I find hialrious that it's a PART time position. let me get this straight: Producer for afternoon drive , in a large market is a part time position! ( read as Entercom is cheaap!) I imagine that it's a fixed amount of hours they'll pay this person, who will be expected to work OVER those hours! Why don't they part with a few bucks from Daria and this Mitch guy, and get a top notch producer?

Didn't they leave off one of the job requirement's?

Must have your own sunglasses as the headlight's can be glaring at times! LOL

This is the most pathetic ad I have ever seen. Check your local Labor laws before applying for this position (LOL) I also think they need to take some money out of Darias Paycheck to make sure this poor sap(part-time producer) is at least getting minimum wage.
Too Funny, I havent laughed this hard in a long time!

Makes one want to rush right over and apply for that one don't it....

Here is the Radio Exec interpretation of the local labor laws:

COMPETITIVE SALARY: We remain competitive by paying less than our competitors.

SOME OVERTIME REQUIRED: Some time each night and some time each weekend

SALES POSITION REQUIRING MOTIVATED SELF-STARTER: We're not going to supply you with leads; there's no base salary; you'll wait 30 days for your first commission check.

SELF-MOTIVATED: Management won't answer questions

CASUAL WORK ATMOSPHERE: We don't pay enough to expect that you'll dress up; well, a couple of the real daring guys wear earrings.

COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT: We have a lot of turnover.

SOME PUBLIC RELATIONS REQUIRED: If we're in trouble, you'll go on TV and get us out of it..

DUTIES WILL VARY: Anyone in the office can boss you around.

CAREER-MINDED: We expect that you will want to flip hamburgers until you are 70.

SEEKING CANDIDATES WITH A WIDE VARIETY OF EXPERIENCE: You'll need it to replace three people who just left.

PROBLEM-SOLVING SKILLS A MUST: You're walking into a company in perpetual chaos.

GOOD COMMUNICATION SKILLS: Management communicates, you listen, figure out what they want you to do.

ABILITY TO HANDLE A HEAVY WORKLOAD: You whine, you're fired.

FLEXIBLE HOURS: Work 55 hours; get paid for 37.5.

CAREER-MINDED: We expect that you will want to flip hamburgers until you are 70.

Im sure most managers at a fast food place are a lot smarter than most managers in radio, plus You get treated with respect working in fast food, unlike radio where you get SHIT ON from day one.
Plus Fast food is A lot more stable than radio, and the pay is just the same.

Welcome to McDonalds, would you like a side of MAYO with your fries??

Well if it's the McDonalds you are at think i'll stick with katchsup as you probably only have a little of that light mayo anyway...!!!LOL

Its a common occurance. I myself was a "producer" for a local morning show...MORNING show. Part time...hourly money...and I use the word 'money' loosely. And while I was paid for ALL the hours I worked there, it wasn't nearly enough when ya had to deal with the ego's that come with the morning show. Producers, I've noticed, are nothing more than grunts for the C*nts & a$$holes behind the mic. Not generalizing here, there are specific c*nts and a$$holes that I'm sure everyone who has worked in Portland radio know about.

I take a small bow...

no, bases on what I just saw, fast food managers aren't too bright either.... Some guy was calling fast food joints saying they were the police and the one girl was stripped searched and humiliated. The manager did what the voice on the phone told her to.......

Is there no common sense left?

looks like the producer job is a no growth position.... they want you to be fully grown when you walk in.

Don't forget the picture! Don't matter your skill level, you have to be photo friendly.

You can't train ugly! Damn, and I would have applied!

Here's my beef. Entercom is a FAT company, for them to hamstring this position to me is unacceptable. If this is in market #108 or something- I'd expect that. But for a drive time producer to be part time, and no benefits: rediculous. Thye'll get what they pay for, probably someone from MHCC.

overnighting package....

I know very few folks that have come out of MHCC that could handle a job like that right out of school. People that come out of that program DO get a well rounded education though. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. Just dont have all the experience that alot of people require.

Thank god for places like Eugene. Where you can suck and the people arent concerned about it. And basicly... Im talking about me... Its good that I was able to come to eugene and suck at my job for a while... until I got "Not crappy" enough to want to apply for jobs in bigger markets.

Back on topic though...Im sure whoever daria is with... things will work out. She is a great talent.

Eugene used to be the third or fourth step up the ladder.

Still, that's a good point. But obviously you don't "suck" or you would have started in Ontario, Forks, or Quincy rather than Eugene.

I can think of a few in various markets who came out of school, interned, then got their first gig in the bigs! Live Small market seems to be a place for people to go to get out of the rat race and have security nowadays... The big fish in a small pond scenario....

Sometimes small market is tougher to get into than a mid or large....

The job listed here could be a nice gig, but they seem to want a mule. They don't seem to have any respect for the position

So, there is an oppertunity here!

One really smart person just needs to nab about 3 of these production jobs, one for each cluster!

That fact that "radio school" still exsists just boggles my mind!
Hey lets teach kids about radio and get them prepared to leap out into a DYING INDUSTY where jobs are few and far. Not to mention the death of the disk jockey!
ps- Daria is over-Rated and has an ego the size of her water ballons. Would someone please remind her that a "disk jockey" is one small step up from a fast food worker.
Have a lovely day,
Just my 2 cents and they contain no tran fats!

I don't believe that Daria has ever jocked a disk, therefore, I would not call her a disk jockey.

I have a hunch Daria's pay grade puts her a bit more than a step up from a fast food worker.

Is that her ego talking, or is that just a bad joke?

What's wrong with radio school? It sounds more fun than the vocational class I am currently enrolled in....

8-track and Beta Repair School.

My counselor says these will soon be the industry standard.

Do you work on reel to reel tape players from eons ago? My in-laws have one of those and they can't list to their Neil Diamond tape anymore?

LOL

Man....now that is old school!

If it is super old and hasn't been properly stored, many reel to reels will oxidize and then the part that actually plays the recording flakes off.

That's the major reason that reel to reels become unusable.

And you bastards, there is nothing wrong with a degree from MHCC. I went through the program, and it taught this kid who knew NOTHING about recording or how to get into radio a thing or two.
It gave me an "in." And I'm fairly happy about how things have worked out thus far.

Say what you will about the industry, I love it. I've been treated fairly well, and I'm a workaholic as it is...so it works out fine.

Anyone who thinks that an associate's degree will bring them wealth and fame is delusional. If you really want to have a solid education, go for the bachelor's...Associate's are just there to supplement your education.

What did the PSU graduate say to the OSU graduate?


You want fries with that!! LOL

Go for the Bachelor's or the Master's and do intern work in your field before seeking full-time employment. Makes a big difference on your application that you have real world experience instead of just a piece of paper that says you went to the classes and managed to graduate.

It's funny how all of the career board-ops I've worked with have a broadcasting degree, usually from MHCC.

What's even funnier is that half of these guys have the nerve to come to work with an ego! HAHA!

I will agree to that Omega. Lots of people from there with egos.

Luckily I'm one of the few that have gone beyond just running the board. For that, I'm pretty happy. Considering I've been actually employed in the business for under 5 years.

It's funny how all of the career board-ops I've worked with have a broadcasting degree, usually from MHCC.

I REST MY CASE!!!! LOL! Radio School. How about Janitorial school?
Or what about burger flipping school?? At least with burger flipping school their is EMPLOYMENT.

The thing with the MHCC program is that it's an actual degree. If it were some trade school or a correspondence school, I'll poo-poo it right along with you.

But it actually helped me in my quest for a Bachelor's. Like I said, it works as a supplement to your education...if you depend on it to bring you riches, you're delusional. If you expect radio to make you rich, you're insane.

It's funny how many people in radio who talk for a living don't know the difference between their, there, and they're.

You know, I'm a horrible spelling/grammar nazi myself. I feel that if you're going to claim it's your primary language, you should use it correctly. Or at least make a valid attempt to.

Hey Mayo -

I can name several students from last year's MHCC class alone who are working full-time or close to it in the industry in positions well above that of board op (not that there's anything wrong with that). A small-market PD, a kick-ass new engineer, and a bonafide promotions star...

That said, a degree alone won't get you anywhere in this business without some talent, lots of drive and a financially well-off spouse.

Let me interpret those three jobs for those who are new to radio...

Small Market PD - Job no one else wants in a city that is unlivable.

Kick-ass Engineer - Pimply face kid that was horrible on the air, yet excelled at Everquest. Now has co-workers who "understand" him.

Bonafide Promotions Star - The easiest of all jobs in radio to acquire. Willingness to pass out stickers at any event in hopes that it will lead to a coveted on-air position.(it won't)
"Would you like to spin the wheel for a chance at a sticker or key chain?"

"Full time or close to it...."

Please define "close to it". Is that just enough so they don't have to offer you benefits? "Close to it" doesn't really cut it in the real world.

Twally said:

"Small Market PD - Job no one else wants in a city that is unlivable."

Correct. But he's working full-time and it's where you start, and he's doing much more than board-op work.

"Kick-ass Engineer - Pimply face kid that was horrible on the air, yet excelled at Everquest. Now has co-workers who "understand" him."

Wrong on this one, completely...none of it applies to the MHCC grad I know.

"Bonafide Promotions Star - The easiest of all jobs in radio to acquire. Willingness to pass out stickers at any event in hopes that it will lead to a coveted on-air position.(it won't)"

And way off base on this one, too. She has no desire to be on-air whatsoever, and while yes, she started as a sticker bitch, she is doing much more than that now.

"Please define "close to it". Is that just enough so they don't have to offer you benefits?"

Unfortunately you are correct on this one, but since when did ANYONE ever start in this business full-time with great benefits? We're talking about new people in the business who got breaks they never would have had were it not for the contacts and education they got at MHCC.

Are you suggesting that to prove the MHCC degree worth the paper it's printed on, the grads gotta be working full-time, great-paying, major-market gigs right out of school? Hardly realistic.

Im curious how much money it costs to be in the radio program at MHCC? Iv'e heard its A LOT!! Talk about throwin your money away!
Not only are you throwig your money away but you will never make enough money in your lifetime to pay off student loans ect. C'mon, the pimpley kid over at the Carls Jr Drive through window gets a better starting wage than most people in radio.

Well, first off...it's an associate's degree. By a college that is fairly well respected in the community college world. It's really not that much when you look at the prices of the BS schools like the Art Institute (which charges 16k a year for their advertising program PLUS supplies.)

I didn't just take radio classes. You're required to complete everything in the requirements for an Associate's of Applied Science. I experienced my first political science courses, my first psych courses...I was only 18 when I entered the program. Everyone who is realistic about the industry and actually into the radio industry reads. And when you read, you realize that yes..you won't get money right away (if ever) unless you go into sales.

But that's not where my heart is. So I'm zen with the fact that I have to work 2 jobs for the time being....it's ok. But I will say that most people I know that have started in radio earn more than minimum wage. Not much, mind you...but as a kid I worked at Taco bell during high school and my first degree. I never got above 8 bucks an hour considering they give .10 raises (even to the adults trying to support families.) I started out above that in radio.

If you're in it for the money, you need to get out. Especially if you don't have the patience to work your tail off for a full time job.

Another thing to think about...is the corporate environment really that stable anywhere else? The telecommunications industry sucks, the manufacturing industry hasn't had stability since at least the 90's; Businesses are being bought and sold left and right, the first thing to go during budget cuts are either the benefits or the employees themselves...especially if they've been there for years and years.

It all sounds just like how the radio industry is right now. So really, while I could be making more money in a job I hate...I'd rather be happy and then supplement it with a second job that pays well.

You just have to think about things in a different way when you're in radio. You do it because you love it, not because you want to be rich. Go into business and work in a cubical if that's what you want. I'm cool with being creative and poor. It's what makes ME happy..

Interesting thread here and I'm glad that there are those who understand that radio is truly a labor of love. I have been involved in radio, in one capacity or another since 1980 and have no regrets at all. Yes, there were times when I made just above minimum wage when I first started, but if I had it to do all over again I would in a heartbeat.

Today I am blessed in that I can not only work in helping the business community to grow their respective business's but also write and produce commercials and occasionally get thrown on the air which I still view as a treat.

Oh, and by the way, I was one of the lucky ones who happened to be in the right place at the right time and had a pd who took me under his wing and taught me programming and then had other brilliant people that I was able to work alongside to help me hone my craft, and no college degree.

For those who are looking to get into radio as a career, I can't help but think that college will only help you in your quest to be involved in radio. Not only should you learn the on-air side, but also the business side to make you a well rounded employee for any company that you work for.

See...I'm very very lucky to be learning radio and gaining experience from the people I work with. I've made new friends and learned radio from some of the most talented people in the market.

I just feel lucky I ended up at my company rather than some of the others I was thinking about joining when picking my internship. I've been here since I was an intern...

At what point, if ever, does a career board-op realize his dream of being on-air is probably never going to become a reality?

I swear, alot of these guys have been manning the board for decades, still somehow convinced they're on the fast-track to radio super stardom.

I'd say, if you've been in radio for 5 years and haven't accomplished anything yet, get the fuck out and give somebody else a shot.

IMO, There is way too much dead-weight at these stations. Blow 'em out and hire people that have the potential to become more. It doesn't take a degree from MHCC to produce/board-op a radio show, just some common sense and half a brain.

Hey everyone has to make a living...

Maybe they enjoy their job?

I do agree if you haven't accomplished anything in 5 years at that job, you might want to consider a smaller market. But some people have kids....and that makes it a bit more difficult.

If people are happy with mediocrity, they'll remain there. It's not my job to judge them for that.

IMO, There is way too much dead-weight at these stations. Blow 'em out and hire people that have the potential to become more. It doesn't take a degree from MHCC to produce/board-op a radio show, just some common sense and half a brain.

Amen to that, but Omega, what about the PD's, and Marketing Directors at certain stations?? Shouldn't they be blown out if ratings continue to suck?? Why do certain Pd's and marketing directors continue to stay year after year??

DEGREES..... What I am finding is that like everything else, this is a tool to weed out the applicant pool. I am seeing more job applications asking :

College........ Yes _____ No___
Degree......... Yes _____ No___

Not Where, not What, just yes or no. It may come up in the interview, but many times it doesn't

So, yes, I have two degrees...

Anyone impressed? If I tell you Where and/or What, Will you be more impressed, or less?

Actually I know a couple of BO/Producers who are happy with that, were on the air, but rather be on the other side of the glass. There is some dead weight behind the mic as well. As for the 5 years and move up or get out.....

I would rather have a passionate 5 year board op than a disinterested experienced card reader, doing it for the paycheck only....

I go nuts when I read someones site and see that they were some pizza guy and a customer thought they should be on the radio, then viola, there they are spewing 12 in a row commercial free, and their talent consists of reading the next card and announcing the next group of core artists in the longest music sweep allowed by law. THAT is dead weight! Amazing how many stations find that compelling and interesting radio.......

Really Roger, two degrees and you confuse voila with viola. At least you didn't type "wahlah."

Beano: politics, politics, politics.

mabye I ma dsilxeic......

or didn't proof read it....

Actually, one of the degrees isn't in English

Actually, neither of them are.

OR better yet maybe it's an "All Strings All The Time" station hence, viola was just a clever twist to see "who got it".

Nice save?

Beano: politics, politics, politics.

Hey Omega, are you sure its not ass kissing, oral sex and other favors of that nature??

Oh yeah, big-time -- but all that stuff falls under the banner of "office politics".

Does anyone remember the last time Daria was the star of her own show? What did that show sound like compared with what she sounded like with Dr. Doug? What were her ratings?

Daria has never hosted her own show she said.
On air others have doen the work while she comes in 5 minutes late..if at all.
Like Pk said on the show last week that program will fail when it is just her and the new dude.

who is pk?

Oh dang, so PK is talking crap about Daria on the Jammin morning show. Ouch!

He talked about her for 20 minutes saying her show will fail in afternoons at 105..he was doggin her big time..

Well if PK has said Daria's show will be shit, then Daria's show will be shit because afterall it takes shit to know shit.

Crap, no need for Daria to even try if PK said she has no chance. Dk's word is BOND!

Funny, never hear Daria mention PK. Hmm...

C'mon Daria, are you going to sit and let PK talk shit about you for 20 minutes at a time. THAT IS A LONG TIME TO BE RIPPING ON SOMEBODY!!!!
So here are the fights that are coming up and beware they will be bloody!

In corner #1 we have Dr Doug and Skippy VS Nelson and Terry

in Corner #2 we have P.K. Vs Daria O'neal.

In example #1, it's the same company so I don't expect anything too brutal if everyone involved expects to keep their jobs.

So employees working for the same company ALL GET ALONG together??? I don't think so!! A bunch of egos in one station =war.