A couple of things that stand out:

"It is much worse in Miami than it is in Baghdad," Gittoes said in Sydney today.

"Even left-wing Americans ... don't want to recognise the mess they've got in their own backyard," he said.



US 'suburbs more violent than Iraq'

By Jonathon Moran

November 07, 2006 02:32pm
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MORE fighting goes on in parts of suburban US than Iraq, according to Australian filmmaker George Gittoes who has just finished a documentary set in a Miami "war zone".

Gittoes' latest feature, Rampage, contrasts life for a family living in the blue-collar community of Brown Sub, Miami, with ongoing fighting in Iraq.

"It is much worse in Miami than it is in Baghdad," Gittoes said in Sydney today.

"There is a sense of people with guns, drug dealers lairing at you ... and being there, I knew I was in a war zone."

Rampage is the second in Gittoes trilogy of documentaries based on the war in Iraq.

It follows the success of 2004s Soundtrack to War, which depicted American soldiers and their music in Iraq.

The film will be released in cinemas around the world and Gittoes is expecting plenty of controversy.

"Even left-wing Americans ... don't want to recognise the mess they've got in their own backyard," he said.

Gittoes has spent much of his career travelling the world, painting, filming and photographing wars in places such as Rwanda, Afghanistan, and East Timor.

"To me, this was just another war zone and it was in America," he said.

Gittoes said there were similar stories to Rampage in Australia's indigenous communities, although he said the task of translating that on the big screen would be difficult.

"The film that I'd like to make in Australia I couldn't make," he said.

"All of our politically correct laws and things wouldn't let someone like me make a film like this in an Aboriginal community in Australia."

The final film in the trilogy, Fearless, and will examine the impact of the Iraq war on the American soldiers who have fought there.

"It is about the difficulty of exit and how much the soldiers have changed and become hardened warriors and how much the people they're fighting have changed as well," he said.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20716640-1702,00.html

So, some Aussie twit says that the 5 people killed in Miami on a bad night is MORE than the 100 Iraqis who die in Baghdad every day.

I guess Australia is on the bottom of the world, because down there 5 is more than 100.

Nice try, jerky boy!

>>>"Nice try, jerky boy!"


I assume this means you have nothing useful to say, so you resort to name calling. Glad you were thoughtful enough to qualify your post.

If things truly are worse in Miami in Baghdad, maybe the governor of that state should be held accountable. If only I could remember who the governor of Florida was. Anyone?

655,000 dead Iraqi women and children is of NO concern to you DJ????
Huh?

>>>"655,000 dead Iraqi women and children is of NO concern to you DJ???? "

That figure has repeated been debunked as myth, Trixter, but it's fun to keep dragging it up for the uninformed isn't it.

Even if you divide 655,000 by 2, 3, or 10, it's still too many, IMO.

Okay let's say that 5,000 have been killed is that better.... Is that NOT enough for you???

So, what do you two propose we do?

STOP killing innocent civilians!

Trixter, apparently your vacation wasn't long enough.

Most of the civilians have been killed by other Iraqi's.

Are dozens of cops being hacked up in Miami every month? Are people being blown up by IEDs on the streets? What a stupid comparison!

Andrew

DJ...
Maybe you need one???

>>>"Maybe you need one???"


I'm on permenant vacation these days. That's why I can think so clearly.

I guess that view is a little shitty UP there then.....
Are you like Wayner and retired living off TAX-PAYERS money till you die??

>>>"Are you like Wayner and retired living off TAX-PAYERS money till you die??"

That and a lot more. Don't forget, I'm a life long Republican.

So, what do you two propose we do?

WE GET OUT OF THERE! ASAP!

Make like a tree (Bush?) and leave
Make like a cowpie and hit the trail
Make like a banana and split
Make like a baby and head out
Make like a hockey player and get the puck out of there.
Make like a drum and beat it
Make like Diarrhea and run
Make like a tire and hit the road
Make like a terrorist and blow that place


And just for Wayne, from his favorite movie:

"Make like a tree and get out of here"

Cut and Run
Defeat and Retreat

full speed ahead...thousands more dead.

Cut and Run
Retreat and Defeat

neo-CONer bullshit!

So how many young men and women need to lose their lives for a war that started because the DUHbya administration THOUGHT they had a nuclear bomb???
HOW MANY MORE?
You seriously don't think that if we defended OUR country from the inside out that we could keep ourselves safe? But fighting somewhere else will? You seriously believe that? Are you going to take up arms when they come to this country because most of our kids are overseas? The neo-CONer thing to do is get a deferment.... When they're at your front door blowing up your car and house you can't defer shit!

Is that better than a Stay and Pray™?

How will we know if we've won?

Seriously - those of you that think we are doing the right thing, still, spell out what defines a victory. The MINIMUM that you yourself would accept.

Say it.

Out loud.

That's it exactly!

"Victory" is whatever made sense at the time. All made up.

The war is over. We "won" that, captured Saddam, then proceded to hose it up from there.

We lost the occupation. We failed at reconstruction. (Whole lotta reasons for that, but there is a strong case for it failing due to losing the occupation.)

The insurgency/resistance only has to point to that, the lack of jobs and quality of service for all the willing Iraqis they need to continue resisting.

We are screwed.

Still waiting for DJ....

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6149138?FSO1&ATT=HMA

Florida is a shithole for the most part. One of the reasons why this is, is that they have no gun control in Florida. When you have a bunch of thugs running around armed, and the law supports those that shoot first and ask questions later, this is what you get. A culture of gun death.

We have the exact same problem around here.

We too "have a bunch of thugs running around armed, and the law supports those that shoot first and ask questions later"

It's the cops.

Hmm . . . I think I know just where to send Sgt. Humphries.

HA! Good one!