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Author: Pdxradio
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 6:06 am
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Does anybody have program lineups from Portland television stations between the 1970s and 1980s? Do anybody have a program lineup of KPDX-TV between 1983 and 1988?

Radio-info.com has a classic television link and some of their members submit lineups from markets in a particular year. I think this should be interesting!

Author: Radiogeeky
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 7:41 am
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How is it possible you missed the RADIO part of Pdx RADIO, pdxradio?????

Author: Average_joe
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 8:10 am
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Radiogeeky what do you care?Why didn't you rip everyone when they talked about T.V Themes?Take a pill and let this be a FRIENDLY board.

Author: Roger
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 8:13 am
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not really the right place to seek that info, but let me try......

7-7:30pm Celebrity Bowling
7:30-8pm Entertainment 2nite
8-9pm Little House Full of Prairie Dogs
9-10pm Roller Derby
10-11pm Pimp My Hooker
11-11:30 The Sensationalised News at 11
11:30-2am Bazillion Dollar Second Rate Star Movie
2am-6am Jesus Roundtable/Shop at Home Gadgets.

Can anyone give me the music rotation for KINK between 6 pm and Midnight for August 19, 1993?

there, we are back on the radio side.

Glad I could help.

Author: Bookemdono
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 10:29 am
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If I remember correctly, KINK's playlist from that day was:

6:00 pm - a Sting song
6:05 pm - a Tracy Chapman song
6:10 pm - a Lyle Lovett song
6:15 pm - a Bonnie Raitt song
6:20 pm - another Sting song
6:25 pm - another Bonnie Raitt song
6:30 pm - 11:55 pm - Tree Top Flyer (the extended version)
11:55 pm - a Tracy Chapman song

Author: Waynes_world
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 10:40 am
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whats the name of that morning host on KINK with the Kansas accent who later moved to Channel 10?
I remember Bob Marx did an hour or two in the late afternoon. Of course thats Michael Baily.
Then there was Jack Mcgeowen (thats probably not how he spells his name). I think my favorite was Uncle Don Wright. His groaners (bad jokes) were funny! I won a dinner from him when I met him when he was at KOIN 970. Of course Craig Walker got his start in the 1970s. Then KISN went dark in 1976 and the Stoner was the deejay.

Author: Semoochie
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 10:52 am
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I'm guessing you refer to Jeff Douglas. He just about WAS KINK for the first several years!

Author: Edselehr
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 11:49 am
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Here's the evening lineup on KPDX-49 from Wednesday October 18, 1989 (just happen to have the paper right here...):

6:00 Mr. Belvedere
6:30 Crimewatch
7:00 Hunter
8:00 Movie: "Harry and the Hendersons"
10:00 Magnum P.I.
11:00 Twilight Zone
11:30 Love Connection

Author: Radiogeeky
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 2:24 pm
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Edsel - You need to tidy up more often. lol.

Author: Edselehr
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 3:08 pm
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You think that's bad? Here is the KATU-2 evening lineup for Saturday, August 10th, 1974:

4:30 Police Doctor
5:00 Wide, Wide World of Sports
6:30 ABC News
7:00 National Geographic
8:00 Partridge Family
8:30 Suspense Movie
10:00 Owen Marshall
11:00 Local News

BONUS: Here are the radio stations and formats for the same day in the Portland market:

AM STATIONS
KXL (750 KC) Popular adult album music
KPDQ (800 KC) Religious programming
KISN (910 KC) Rock
KWRC (900 KC) Popular Music
KOIN (970 KC) Popular contemporary
KWJJ (1000 KC) Country-Western
KKEY (1150 KC) Western
KRDR (1230 KC) Country-Western
KLIQ (1290 KC) Religious; talk, gold, Beatles "Rockumentary" 11am
KPOK (1330 KC) Modern country
KUIK (1360 KC) Light Rock and Great Saturday
KEX (1190 KC) Personality, ABC News
KGW (620 KC) Contemporary rock
KLSC (1410 KC) Classic Gold Oldies
KBPS (1450 KC) Concert
KVAN (1480 KC) Rock, Blues, Jazz
KYXI (1520 KC) Popular Adult Album. News Blocks 7-8am
KGAR (1550 KC) Solid Gold

FM STATIONS
KRRC (89.3 meg) Jazz, Rock, Folk
KBOO (90.7 meg) Classical, Concert, Jazz
KOAP (91.5 meg) Ancient, Contemporary music
KGON (92.3 meg) Contemporary Popular rock
KPDQ (93.1 meg) Religious programs, music
KXL (95.5 meg) Stereo, Classical
KPAM (97.1 meg) Stereo Rock, Specials
KUPL (98.5 meg) Popular Stereo music
KJIB (99.5 meg) Stereo, popular, classical
KOIN (101.1 meg) Stereo, popular, classical
KINK (102 meg) Stereo, rock
KQFM (103 meg) Familiar instrumental
KQIV (106 meg) Quadrophonic programs, Soul and Jazz, Black News

Questions:

How do you broadcast in Quadrophonic?

Whatever happened to that Ancient Music format? Bet it would be a winner today. :-)

Author: Edselehr
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 3:12 pm
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I forgot to mention Sinister Cinema at 11:30pm ("The Horrible Dr. Hitchcock" starring Barbara Steele and Robert Fleming, followed by "The Spider Woman Strikes Back" starring Gale Sondergaard and Brenda Joyce.)

Author: Roger
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 3:17 pm
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oldies and country......nothing changes except oldies which is going the way of familiar instrumental........

Author: Bookemdono
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 3:21 pm
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Check out all the music formats on the AM dial back then. One didn't have to have one of those fancy AM/FM 8-track tape decks to keep up with the popular music of the day...an AM radio and a single in-the-dashboard speaker was all you really needed to be livin' large.

Author: Pdxradio
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 4:00 pm
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Thanks Edselehr for that KPDX lineup from 1989. I remember watching Mr. Belvedere on KPDX, which don't last that long.

Does anybody have a list of shows that KATU, KOIN and KGW aired in the late 1970s and early 1980s (just syndication shows only)? I know the "old" KPTV has a website that has their old program schedules going back to the 1950s.

Author: 62kgw
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 4:25 pm
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There were several variations of "quadraphonic", several of which derived the rear (both rear left and rear right) audio from the difference signal (a.k.a. L-R) of a 2 channel stereo transmission.
That was called "SQ" i think. Kind of mickey mouse.
Some others who post here might know exactly what KQIV actually did.
I dont think any "discrete" 4 channel (4 completely independent sounds) method was ever approved for use, thus nobody would have had a receiver for that,

Author: Craig_adams
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 4:37 pm
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KPTV Channel 27 Line-up December 20, 1956:

8:00 - Today In The West [sign on]
9:00 - Tic Tac Dough
9:30 - It Could Be You
10:00 - Ding Dong School
10:30 - Home [Arlene Francis]
10:55 - News
11:00 - Home [Arlene Francis]
11:30 - Tennessee Ernie Ford
Noon - Matinee Theater: "Late Love" (color)
1:00 - Queen For A Day
1:45 - Modern Romances
2:00 - I Married Joan
2:30 - The Price Is Right
3:00 - Telecourse
3:30 - Northwest Home
4:00 - Cowboy Serial Time
4:30 - Uncle Whittle
4:45 - Movie Playhouse "Beck Sharpe"
6:30 - Long John Silver
7:00 - Liberace
7:30 - Dinah Shore
7:45 - The Huntley & Brinkley Report
8:00 - Groucho Marx
8:30 - Dragnet
9:00 - The Great Gildersleeve
9:30 - Ernie Ford
10:00 - Lux Video Theatre (color)
11:00 - Playhouse 27
11:30 - Tonight [Steve Allen]
1:00 - [sign off]

Author: Onetimeradioguy
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 4:48 pm
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Some of the people who worked at the original KQIV have put together a website called Rockin' in Quad . Somewhere on the site is a rather extensive discussion about how the station never broadcast in quadraphonic and how it was all a ruse.

Author: Jeffreykopp
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 5:37 pm
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To be fair, "Rockin' in Quad" was only a "ruse" in that they hyped it before the anticipated technology, which at the time of their inception was supposedly just around the corner (that turned out to be a 20-year corner).

Whoa, KPTV had a color film chain in 1957?

I have always been puzzled by Jeff Douglas' accent, but then I've never been to Kansas (... but I kinda like the music.) (So-ree!)

(P.S. There *is* a picture of a TV set above the topics list.)

Author: Edselehr
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 5:45 pm
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nah - that's a radio. Looks like a Zenith.

Author: Dberichon
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 7:07 pm
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There was a Quad FM system developed by Zenith that used a 76 KHz subcarrier to carry the F-R info.

Anyone wanting any info on Quadraphonics should check out the following websites:

http://www.quadraphonicquad.com
http://members.cox.net/surround/quaddisc/quadindx.htm
http://www.geocities.com/quadaudio/

There is nothing better then hearing good music in surround sound.

I'm a quad-enthusiast (in case you couldn't tell.)

Author: Paulwalker
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 8:13 pm
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I grew up in Seattle, but I am fascinated by the 1974 Portland radio formats from what I assume was the Oregonian. Maybe some of you native PDX'ers can help me out.

Note all the "popular" formats listed. Must have been a catch phrase, but what did it really mean? Did it mean AC?

What was 900 KWRC? I have no recollection of that station.

This must have been a period right before FM started to evolve in Portland. The FM band here looks very undeveloped. KGON...contemporary popular rock? What was that, early FM Portland Top40? KPAM...stereo rock, specials. What were they in '74?

I know 70's Portland mainly from the AM's, KGW, KISN, KYTE. How did Portland FM's evolve in the 70's? What was Portland's first real FM top40?
Come on, somebody fill me in!

Author: Paulwalker
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 8:25 pm
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And, as someone pointed out above, every AM played music! What was the first AM to go all news/talk?

Author: Craig_adams
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 9:49 pm
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Portland's first Top 40 FM was 97.1 KPFM in 1969.

KWRC Woodburn was on 940KHz.

Portland's first News/Talk station, meaning it had a morning & afternoon news block with Talk Shows at other times. That would be KXL in 1980.

Author: Randy_in_eugene
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 12:46 am
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>>KLIQ (1290 KC) Religious; talk, gold, Beatles "Rockumentary" 11am
>>KUIK (1360 KC) Light Rock and Great Saturday

I specifically remember that scrambled radio list from 1974. In earlier editions, entries for KLIQ and KUIK read as follows:

KLIQ (1290 KC) Religious; talk [and possible other info?]
KUIK (1360 KC) Light Rock and Great Gold, Beatles "Rockumentary" 11am Saturday.

"Popular" simply meant popular, yes, a catch phrase. "Popular adult album" meant 101 Strings albums -- easy listening, as did "Popular Stereo Music," and "Stereo Popular, Classical."

In the case of KOIN 970 "Contemporary Popular" meant uptempo AC.

KGON's "Contemporary Popular Rock" was kinda' AOR, heavy on current rock-leaning top 40 hits.

Between '73 and '78 I DXed KPAM 97.1 more than all other Portland stations combined, but I can't tell you what the specials were in '74, if any. It was the only Top-40 station I could get on FM (other than KFLY's mono FM simulcast, a horrible signal from the Valley floor).

I'm thinking KWRC's "Popular Music" was some form of AC. I remember them doing some spanish programming even in the mid-70s, might have been on weekends.

Author: Randy_in_eugene
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 1:16 am
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Oh, I assume the "Ancient" music on KOAP was what most people refer to as "Classical."

KPDQ-FM was on 93.7, never on 93.1, and KQFM was 100.3, not 103.

Author: Jeffreykopp
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 3:19 am
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KWRC was easily received here; we kids discovered it on afternoons when home sick from school in the mid-sixties. We were intrigued by the first bilingual, somewhat-ethnic radio we'd ever heard.

One amusing broadcast was some kind of bingo contest when too many winning cardholders called in at once, crashing the local phone exchange. The announcer had to ask everyone to hang up and wait a few minutes.

Author: Onetimeradioguy
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 5:53 am
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Craig...

Are you forgetting KLIQ was all news way back when. I think I read about it on some radio history thing on this site.

Author: 62kgw
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 8:03 am
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Did KXL morning news block begin in 1968 approx?
Did that include any music segments?

Author: Edselehr
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 8:45 am
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While KOAP-FM played "Ancient" music, KXL-FM was playing "Classical". Is this simply semantics, or was there a key difference? "Ancient" to me sounds like Gregorian chants. Which, by the way, I never hear on Charlie. "We Play Everything", indeed.

Author: Brade
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 9:07 am
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Where did the "Ancient Music" moniker come from to describe KOAP-FM's format anyway? Their format then was classical music, educational programming and the beginnings of NPR. Also, KXL-FM was only classical a few hours a week then. I'm not sure if they still had their "Sunrise Symphony" program weekdays 6-9A (I think it was gone by then) but the only other classical show I remember was on Sunday night, hosted, I think, by John Salisbury. The rest of the time KXL-FM ran the same "easy listening" format as KXL-AM.

Author: Brade
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 9:09 am
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Good point, BTW, about Gregorian chants on Charlie...I did hear KRRC once go from Gregorian chant to The Supremes..

Author: Semoochie
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 10:42 am
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The '74 radio list doesn't really follow an order. Popular music was music popular with adults and Rock was anything derived from Bill Haley, onward. KEX and KOIN were the rough equivalent of AC today but more like Sunny in presentation with a lot more personality. KOIN was particularly "talky". KXL was the first real News/Talk station but KYXI switched to All News in 1976 and had a good run. KLIQ was mostly Talk after a morning religious block that moved to KKEY after the station shut down many years later. KKEY began phasing in the Talk format in 1971 with(I hope this is right)Brad Eaton.

Author: Craig_adams
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 11:29 am
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Onetimeradioguy: This was he question: What was the first AM to go all news/talk?

KLIQ went all news in 1959. No talk shows.

Author: Edselehr
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 12:26 pm
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Paulwalker: Yes, I'm looking at old backissues of the Oregonian. They were archived because of key events (1974= Nixon resignation, 1989= SF Bay quake). Since the whole paper was saved, I get the Living section TV/radio listings also - plus the comics! (remember 'Winnie Winkle the Breadwinner'?)

Craig Adams: You say KWRC was at 940kHz, the paper says 900kHz. An Oregonian typo?

Author: Randy_in_eugene
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 6:14 pm
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Definitely an Oregonian typo among many in that list.

Author: Alfredo_t
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 7:06 pm
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> Whoa, KPTV had a color film chain in 1957?

My guess is that the color programs that KPTV aired in 1956 had to be coming over a network feed. Was KPTV an NBC affiliate at this time? Somewhere else, I read that the first television station that had the capability to originate color programming in its own studios was in Chicago, and that didn't happen until 1958.

Author: Albordj
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 7:38 pm
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Actually I believe KPTV was the ABC affiliate at the time...at least it was when KATU signed on in 1962 and that's as far back as I can remember since it was the spring of 1962 that my parents moved us to Oregon from San Francisco.

Author: Jr_tech
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 7:39 pm
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Alfredo_t:
At least in 1953 "Matinee Theater" was listed as a network program (NBC), so I suspect your guess is correct.

http://kptv.home.comcast.net/Sked/1953.htm

Author: Albordj
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 7:44 pm
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Here is some history that I found:

KGW-TV signed on the air on December 15, 1956 on channel 8 as an ABC affiliate...KOIN began operation on October 15, 1953 as Portland's first VHF TV station. At that time, it was owned by Mt. Hood Radio and Television that was a group that included the Portland Oregonian, local investors, Marshall-Field department stores and KOIN (970 AM and 101.1 FM) radio.signed on in 1952 on channel 27, as Oregon's first television station, as well as the world's first commercial TV station on the UHF band. It was owned by Empire Coil. As Portland's only TV station at the time, KPTV carried programming from all four networks: ABC, CBS, NBC, and the now-defunct Dumont network. Storer Broadcasting bought out Empire Coil in 1954.

The channel 12 allocation was at first occupied by KLOR-TV (which signed on in 1955 as an ABC affiliate). However, by 1957 KPTV and KLOR came under common ownership (as Detroit businessman George Haggarty purchased KPTV from Storer and KLOR from its local owners earlier that year), and the two stations merged on May 1, 1957 under KPTV's license, but using KLOR's channel. In 1959, KPTV was sold to Chris-Craft Industries (whose pre-United Television broadcasting unit later became BHC Communications) and became a full-time ABC affiliate. However, the station lost its ABC affiliation to KATU in 1964, and went on to become an independent station. The station's long-running news program, The 10 O'Clock News, launched in 1970.

Author: Paulwalker
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 8:20 pm
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All very interesting. In Seattle, we were fortunate to have a lot of media documented by the local papers (Vic Stredicke, in particular, wrote frequently in the Seattle Times about radio from the 60's through the 80's). I'm not sure there was the same amount of coverage in Portland, atleast on a regular basis.

KLIQ with all-news in 1959? Wow, that is very early for a market Portland's size. I don't think Seattle had anything "all-news" until the late 70's or early 80's. I could be mistaken.

Even KIRO, trying to image themselves as a news/talk, played music during certain dayparts well into the early 80's. KOMO and KVI played music in the 80s's as well. I've always had the philosophy that hilly terrain stunted FM development in Seattle, (maybe Portland too, to a lessor extent), and that delayed the AM's from going all news and talk.

Anyway you look at it, the period from 1974 to 1984 was a giant transition for both markets, with lots of changes, some real players, some pretenders, trying to adjust to the switch and consequent format adjustments between bands. A real interesting time in the development of northwest radio.

Author: 62kgw
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 8:46 pm
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Thinking about it....
Would KPTV necessarily need "color" equipment installed locally to transmit color program from network?
Did the network/at&t need special "color" equipment to transmit the color programs live from NY or L.A. to the local stations? or would the existing B/W facilities work fine for color?

Obviously, KPTV or other local station would need color cameras and such to transmit local programs or films in color. Correct? Or was more "color" upgrades needed for other equipment?

I presume this (mid 50's) was before any TV stations were using videotape (color or B/W)?

Plus hardly anybody had color tv sets then.

Author: Craig_adams
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 9:58 pm
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December 15-21, 1956 TV Guide is where I got the KPTV channel 27 listing. In the front you find this:
___________________________________________________________

Channels listed in program section

[4] KPIC (NBC) Box 670, Roseburg
[6] KOIN-TV (CBS) 140 S.W. Columbia St., Portland
[8] KGW-TV (ABC) 1139 S.W. 13th St., Portland
[12] KLOR (ind) 915 N.E. Davis, Portland
[13] KVAL-TV (NBC) Blanton Heights, Eugene
[27] KPTV (NBC) 735 S.W. 20th Place, Portland
___________________________________________________________

KLIQ was an initial "All News" station in the Nation.

Author: Semoochie
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 10:37 pm
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Try this; it's fascinating! http://home.comcast.net/~kptv/kptv.htm

Author: Randy_in_eugene
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 11:42 pm
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Paul, to refresh your memory regarding all-news in the 70s, NBC's News & Information Service started in '75, which brought on a lot of all-news stations in medium and large markets. Eugene and Portland had NBC-NIS affiliates, but I don't know about Seattle.

Author: Jeffreykopp
Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 2:27 am
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Aha. I overlooked the possibility of a daytime network movie. Yes, it must have been NBC by microwave from KRCA, as CBS broadcast almost no color at the time and KABC didn't get a color film chain until 1962. The transmitter would need to be color-capable but no significant other local color equipment would be required.

Author: Mrs_merkin
Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 7:27 am
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Q: "Can anyone give me the music rotation for KINK between 6 pm and Midnight for August 19, 1993?"


A: If I remember correctly, KINK's playlist from that day was:

6:00 pm - a Sting song
6:05 pm - a Tracy Chapman song
6:10 pm - a Lyle Lovett song
6:15 pm - a Bonnie Raitt song
6:20 pm - another Sting song
6:25 pm - another Bonnie Raitt song
6:30 pm - 11:55 pm - Tree Top Flyer (the extended version)
11:55 pm - a Tracy Chapman song

Hey! I checked with the KINK archives and That's the same playlist for August 19th, 1983, 1993, and 2003!

(And pretty much every other night as well...)

Author: Brade
Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 7:52 am
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Actually, the first talk host to turn up on KKEY was Jack Hurd. After several months the station added Russ Myers (9-11) and Dave Collins (3-5) (Kack was on 11-1) I didn't show up there until 1975. I also didn't know KLIQ had been all-news. I've heard KGAR tried that in the early '60's. In addition to Portland (KYXI) and Eugene (KASH) Salem also had an NMB NIS affiliate, KROW. (1460) I worked there for awhile right after NIS went away. I don't think we ever had an all-news NIS station here in Seattle, though I wasn't here at the time. I think KING-AM tried all-news for awhile before switching to news/talk. Brad

Author: Brade
Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 7:54 am
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Oh, I meant to say NBC NIS affiliate, and Jack was on 11-1....

Author: Paulwalker
Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 10:33 am
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Yes, Brad...KING-AM went all news in 1982 after experimenting with a soft rock format for a couple of years. KING then evolved into news/talk in the mid-80's, with a much more animated Mike Siegel who use to scream and yell at his listeners before becoming much more mellow. I believe Portland talker Jim Bickel also put in some time at KING. Infinity/CBS took over the frequency in the mid-90's.

Author: Brade
Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 11:21 am
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Yeah, I was the Assistant PD (Brian Jennings was the PD) at KING-AM in the late '80's...we hired Siegel from WABC and brought Jim up from KXL for AM drive.

Author: Semoochie
Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 12:13 pm
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Sorry Brad, that's what I thought too until I thought I heard you say otherwise! I must have misunderstood you. You must have gotten there just before I did. I want to put Hurd's arrival as 1972. Jerry Dimmitt was there for a short time and left at just about that time. PS: Are you still taking the Greyhound bus to work? :-)

Author: Paulwalker
Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 1:05 pm
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Brad, we share memories of King Broadcasting, as I was there as a young kid in the early 80's. Bruce Murdock was the PD/mornings on what was then known as "AM 1090, The King, Soft Rock and More." (The "more" was anything from traffic reports to a lifestyle relate). I remember moving from the old warehouse to the swanky new facility in 1981. King Broadcasting was a huge part of both Portland and Seattle, now just a piece of history.

Author: Johnf
Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 4:38 pm
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Following up on Paul's question (I was born in Seattle in 1955 and grew up there so can speak with some authority on this), there was NO all-news radio station in Seattle until KING-AM (later KNWX) went all news in the early 1980s.

And today, of course, KOMO is the all-news station in the Emerald City.

When NBC's News and Information Service was operating from 1975 to 1977, I was REALLY hoping that some Seattle station would affiliate with it. I used to DX at night to listen to NIS on what was then KYXI 1520 in Oregon City and KFBK 1530 in Sacramento. I also heard NIS while visiting Spokane on KSPO and while in Boise on KSPD.

But then, all too soon, NIS suddenly vanished. I was disappointed. I thought it was a terrific format.

And today I am frustrated that Seattle has an all-news station (KOMO) and Vancouver B.C. has an all-news station (CKWX), but Portland doesn't. Portland hasn't had one since KYXI.

I know I sound like I'm beating a dead horse on this (I've made this point before here) but I REALLY wish KPAM would go all-news!

For pity's sake, they're in the same building, and share the same ownership and resources, with the Portland Tribune and Community Newspapers.

It's a natural!

(But for some reason, Dr. Pamplin just doesn't want to take my advice, apparently...:-)

By the way, what Eugene station was an NIS affiliate back then?

Author: Paulwalker
Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 5:53 pm
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Hi Johnf...hope all is well.

As I think has been posted on another lost thread somewhere on this site, all-news stations are surprisingly rare in todays radio landscape, with the exception of the largest markets. A handful are doing well...WINS and WCBS in NY, WBBM in Chicago, KNX Los Angeles (though struggling), and KYW in Philidelphia. In markets of similar size to Portland, they are virtually non-existent. Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Denver has no viable all-news stations.

KOMO in Seattle succeeds partly due to the Mariners, but unless we get some better hitting, that may not last. :-)

Author: Craig_adams
Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 8:08 pm
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Jack Hurd began on KKEY October 4, 1971 followed by Dave Collins & Russ Myers debuting on November 29, 1971.

I kick myself every time I think about throwing out all my the old "Standard Rate & Data" Network booklets. I had subscribed to the small directory in the 1970's until they discontinued the bookets. It showed listings of all affiliates, including NBC's NIS Network. I seem to remember NIS had a station in Klamath Falls. When I was a truck driver for my fathers business, I would listen to NIS in the valley on KROW & KASH.

Author: 93khk
Friday, November 03, 2006 - 5:23 am
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Craig,
I was the PD at KROW when Don Robbs came over from the Islands and purchased the station. He was a TV talk show person in Hawaii and switched the station to NBC NIS..being a daytimer we had to go off at sunset and during the election period it was very difficult to keep the public informed by shutting the transmitter off.

Author: Craig_adams
Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 1:59 am
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93khk: That's right! I had fogotten you mentioning to me, working at KROW after your stint as PD of KMCM.

Pdxradio: Sorry I forgot to post what you really wanted after I had fun posting KPTV 1956.

KPDX Schedule for Monday September 10, 1984:

5:30 :20 Minute Workout (sign on)
6:00 Public Affairs
6:15 Jimmy Swaggart
6:45 Harveytoons
7:00 Superheroes
7:30 He-Man & The Masters of The Universe
8:00 Star Blazers
8:30 Spider-Man
9:00 700 Club
10:30 My Favorite Martian
11:00 Family
NOON The Dick Van Dyke Show
12:30 Rhoda
1:00 Maude
1:30 Bewitched
2:00 The Beverly Hillbillies
2:30 Inspector Gadget
3:00 Tom & Jerry
3:30 Superfriends
4:00 He-Man & The Masters of The Universe
4:30 Scooby Doo
5:00 Mork & Mindy
5:30 The Andy Griffith Show
6:00 One Day At A Time
6:30 Carol Burnett & Friends
7:00 WKRP In Cincinnati
7:30 All In The Family
8:00 Movie: Rebel Without A Cause
10:00 That's Hollywood
10:30 Music Magazine
11:00 The Twilight Zone
11:30 Movie: Stiletto
1:30 Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In

I also have listings for all Portland TV stations for every year in the 1970's.

Author: Pdxradio
Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 10:17 am
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I am not trying to tell the whole world my age, but I remember watching "He-Man & The Master of the Universe" when I was 5 years old. I also remember watching "The Beverly Hillbillies," "Maude," "Rhoda," "Mork & Mindy," "WKRP in Cincinnati," "All in the Family," and "Laugh-In" on KPDX. The only show I don't remember watching on KPDX was "the Andy Griffith Show I may been too young to watch some of these shows, but that's a good line-up to me for an up-start independent station.

THANK YOU CRAIG ADAMS FOR THE KPDX LINEUP FROM 1984!

Another question: I know that KPTV was the leading independent station in Portland, but why didn't they acquire shows like "All in the Family," "Sanford & Son," and "Andy Griffith" in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Also, why did KPTV acquire more dramas like "Little House on the Prairie" and "CHiPs" for their early prime lineup? KPTV did not acquire that many sitcoms until the mid-1980s when they paid a lot of money to acquire shows like "Family Ties," "Cheers," "Three's Company," "Benson," and "Night Court."

Author: Pdxradio
Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 11:58 am
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Another moment from KPDX I also remember from 1983 and 1984 is that Portland advertising king Tom Peterson sponsored their Late Night movies. I don't remember seeing the "Wake-up" commercials during their late night movies, but I do remember that after each movie ended, Tom Peterson would briefly appear talking the his store. Peterson also sponsored late night movies for KOIN in the early 1980s. Also, Ron Tonkin sponsored movies for KGW in the early 1980s as well.

After each late night movie, KPDX would air "Laugh-In." The popular late 60s-early 70s show would air very late in Portland as other markets would air the show (in syndicated reruns) in the early evening time slots.

Another show KPDX aired unsuccessfully (also unsuccessfully nationwide) was "Thicke of the Night." "Thicke" was a late night show hosted by Alan Thicke that was quoted to be a new talk show that would challenge Johnny Carson in the ratings. It was listed as one of the worst shows in television history.

Author: Semoochie
Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 10:46 pm
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Alan Thicke was very successful in Canada and it was thought that his success would be equaled in America but he became a household name in another way.

Author: Shyguy
Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 11:10 am
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I am interested in KPTV's Saturday line-ups from aprox 83-87. Anyone?

Author: 62kgw
Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 12:07 pm
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Star Trek was on KPTV.
Note: Its (origional kirk/spock series) now back on 49. (Sat and Sun 10PM)
Brand new re-mastered, with improved/re-created exterior scenes of ships and planets, and effects. Better quality color, re-recorded opening theme music, etc.

Author: Craig_adams
Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 1:06 pm
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KPTV Saturday Morning Line-up September 14, 1985:

6:00 Viewer's Digest (sign on)
7:00 12 In The Morning
7:30 Super Chargers
8:00 Joy of Gardening
8:30 Happy Days
9:00 Jayce & The Wheeled Warriors
10:00 Transformers
10:30 Kids Incorporated
11:00 (College Football) Idaho State at Portland State, Live

Author: Pdxradio
Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 2:19 pm
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To view KPTV's Fall schedules between the 1950s and 2001, you can go here: http://home.comcast.net/~kptv/Sked/sked.htm'

"Happy Days" was a classic show and currently airs on TV Land. I don't know if it did well on KPTV because it would be on or off their weekly schedule between 1982 and 1985. Nationally, "Happy Days" was doing very well in syndication in the early and mid 1980s.

Author: Stoner
Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 2:58 pm
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Does anybody remember the show "Whirlybirds"????

Author: Onetimeradioguy
Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 4:33 pm
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Yeah, wasn't it paired with "Resuce 8."

And, BTW, thanks for letting me show my age.

Author: Craig_adams
Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 6:18 pm
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I also remember watching "Whirlybirds". The series was syndicated by Desilu. Trivia: The Whirlybirds were "Bell Ranger" Helicopters with identification numbers N2838B & N975B.

"The Complete Encyclopedia of Television" by Vincent Terrace.

Author: Paulwalker
Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 6:25 pm
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Speed Racer.

Was this not the coolest cartoon of the 60's?

What was the popular song of the 90's that sampled it?

KTNT-11, at the time, Seattle afternoons.

Author: Craig_adams
Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 6:36 pm
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The "Speed Racer" theme song was Conducted by Tatsuo Yoshida who also was the Producer & Director.

Author: Bhone2000
Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 8:11 pm
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Stoner, that's so weird that you remember that show. It was my favorite show when I was but a wee lad. I remember the 2 characters names were "Chuck and PT". !! I was obsessed with toy helicopters in my toddler days because of that show. Not too many people remember it. I actually found a link to it on the web at one time. I'm sure if you googled it you'd find it.

Author: Dan_mullin
Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 8:51 pm
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festus from gunsmoke was one of the whirly bird stars.

Author: Bhone2000
Monday, November 06, 2006 - 6:17 am
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Hey Dan, I don't see any mention of Ken Curtis (Festus) on the show. I think Gunsmoke was on the air at the same time anyway..Here's the poop..

Originally on: Syndicated (30 min.)
Status: Ended Premiered: February 4, 1957 Last Aired: January 18, 1960
Show Categories: Action/Adventure, Drama
The Whirlybirds flew into our television sets from 1957 to 1960. Featuring Bell 47 helicopters, Chuck Martin (Kenneth Tobey) and Pete "P.T." Moore (Craig Hill) are the owners of Whirlybirds, Incorporated, a chopper for hire company based in California.

Each week, Chuck and P.T. would find themselves called to help the local authorities in search and rescue, or fly a rich bigwig around. And of course, let's not forget the coolest of helicopters, the Bell 47, tail number N975B.

The Whirlybirds was another hit series produced by Desilu Studios and ran three seasons in syndication . The show was filmed at the San Fernando airport and Whitman Field in and around Van Nuys, California and was conceived after a show idea from an I Love Lucy episode.

Helen Carter (Nancy Hale) was the firm's secretary, replacing Janet Culver (Sandra Spence) midway through the 1st season.

The show was the first television series to feature helicopters as it's main focus and inspired hundreds of young people to become chopper pilots. The Whirlybirds was also the place of introduction for Bell's improved model helicopter, the Bell 47J Ranger.

Author: Stoner
Monday, November 06, 2006 - 7:41 am
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Ahhhhhh..This all brings me back. Great show. Played in the afternoon if my memory serves me correctly. 4:30????

Author: Murdock
Monday, November 06, 2006 - 8:32 am
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If I remember, there was a day of the week you could go from "Rescue 8" right to "Whirlybirds". And don't forget on Saturday mornings it was "Sky King". He had the coolest planes. First one was a Beech 18 and then the sexiest light twin ever, the Cessna 310.

Plus, his "niece" Penny was hot.

Author: Craig_adams
Monday, November 06, 2006 - 3:21 pm
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There were two "Sky King" theme songs. The first was called "Western Theme" and the later cooler theme with the Cessna was called "Cracked Idol".

I remember, "The Songbird" was stationed at Sky King's "Flying Crown Ranch" in Arizona.

Author: Stoner
Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:09 am
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Remember when Sky King made an appearance at Tom Petersons Muntz store...same day (tom) was giving away free puppies! No joke. Sky came in to the Foster Store and chatted with us for a spell. We took a photo of him behind the diamond counter! Love to find that picture today.
Penny was very cute!

Author: Craig_adams
Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 2:17 am
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I had a crush on Penny! Here's a cast picture below, with Sky (Kirby Grant), Penny (Gloria Winters) & Clipper (Ron Hagerthy). The series had the distinction of playing on all 3 networks.

http://www.resoluteconsultinggroup.com/newsletter/0606/images/skyking3.jpg


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