Look! You could be the 11th production-guy to work for CHERYL HARLE in the past 5 years!! Bring your blood-pressure medication! I'M DONE!

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Work, Live and Play on the Central Oregon Coast. The Oregon Coast is a wonderful place to live, and we get calls from all over about openings at our company. One position has become available. Boss Fm & News/Talk KCUP AM is looking for a Creative Production Director to take over our very busy Production Department. Boss FM is Lincoln County’s Number One Station and offers a great opportunity for someone who is not afraid of hard work. Only the brave should apply.

Call Cheryl Harle @ 541-270-1434.

>"Only the brave should apply."

Does this say it all?

* The station is #1, only in the 55+ demo.

* You'll have no time to play, only to work and "live"

* expect to work weekends

* Creativity will get you in trouble here -- a more accurate job description would be DIGITAL AUDIO EDITOR/AGENCY SPOT DUBBER. And you will edit (with oversight) to the owners liking, NOT your ear's.

* You WILL be required to call-on/sell clients.

* The production facilities are second rate.

* You WILL be expected to VT a 4 hour air-shift.

If you don't have a family, and like being micro-managed, working 10 hour days and doing remotes on the weekends, this is the gig for you!

Having said that, there is a couple of good guys here, and a programmer that stops in every once in a while to make our station sound really good. But don't be confused by the job title--this is NOT a radio job. It's an office job, and it's no more satisfying or rewarding than working on an assembly line...which wouldn't be HORRIBLE, if the owner wasn't nuts. Don't believe me? Just do a search on this board for "HARLE"...I rest my case.

I came to LIVE at the beach, not DIE here.

This is by far the funniest yet most informative thread I have ever seen on this board.
Thank you O3, you made my morning!
Dude, I almost went there for an interview a few years back but got the same kind of heads up from another former employee/slave and decided selling stuff on Ebay was probably the wiser choice.

I thought all mom and pop ops were great? Actually, I too have heard nothing but Horror stories about C.H.

I NEVER could understand why on earth someone manages with that style and can be successful being such an ogre.....

Sounds like a great place to live and a terrible place to work! Not a real great trade off.

Having consulted for Cheryl Harle, I will disagree with much that has been written above.
Cheryl wants to win, she pays well above the market average, and has a heart of gold. Her opportunity would be a great place for a person to learn the business. By the way, her current consultant is ex-KISN and ex-KFRC'er Bob Harlowe. That says a lot.

Paul -- you yourself couldn't stand it here for more than a short few months...

I once saw Cheryl Harle slaughter a lamb with her bare hands then drink the blood......

Omega3, my situation had little to do with Cheryl. Over time I found Cheryl to be very passionate about winning, and she went out of her way to take care of me. Sometimes you just have to look a little deeper...

Yes, and OJ loved Niclole....

He sure did....
One stab and slice at a time....

I think it was more of a cutting or sawing motion.

I admire your loyalty Paul. Much respect always...seriously.

She was great to me the first few months too -- I even stuck up for her and said it publicly on this board, that she got a bad rap. Boy was I ever wrong -- she's been nothing but pure-evil lately. Now I see why so many talented guys have come through these doors then promptly saw their way through the exit. I should've known there was a catch...my bad.

My new motto: "Just say no: to worktapes!"

Bruce Springstein is looking for workers? Might be worth a try!

Thanks, Omega3. Worktapes. Forgot about those!

Interesing thread, and some questions:

Do stations still use work tapes? I thought production was on computer.

How do you get work tapes if you need them these days? In the "good old days" we used to advertise for jocks. Send tape and resume. Usually produced enought tapes for a while.

By any chance has anyone told Newportradio about this opening?!?!

Deane,
An ad on allaccess.com will usually generate dozens and dozens of packages, at least for the desirable gigs, according to PDs I've talked with.

Omega3,
Some people would say you shouldn't say unbecoming things about former employers on here. I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE! I've worked for amazing (in a good way) PDs, and I've worked for a couple of dill weed GMs (because the PDs were powerless -- so the GM was really my boss) that sound similar to your experiences. I'm talking about the kind of small-market GM that hates talented people for these reasons:

1) Talented people tend to be intelligent, and therefore tend to win arguments. Often a small-market GM was promoted to his or her position because he was the "number 1" salesperson at the station. So they are "driven" people. Not neccesarily smart, but driven. So they hate surrounding themselves with smart people who can prove them wrong.

2) Talented people can be difficult to work with, and require management to sometimes tread lightly, or risk losing the person.

3) Talented communicators are good at winning over the favor of fellow employees, possibly turning them against management.

I admit, I'm drawing heavily on a couple of specific personal experinces from small-market stations I worked for, but I'm sure others have seen the same thing.

Shane correct observations, and the reason why so many places stagnate. Not just radio, but other businesses also. Absolutely why you hire a Good Manager, rather than make your killer jock the PD, or your top salesman the GSM. Using baseball or football, how many superstar players went on to become top managers and coaches? Not many, and the reason is usually that they were so focused on their own performance that they didn't take the time to become a student of the game. The spotlight was always on them, so they were the center of attention. When you are the star, it's hard to share the accolades, and listen to the ideas of others if you deem them below your own talent and skill level. Nope, leave your Stars where they are, reward them for their performance, and get someone with people skills to manage. This way you improve the performance of the entire business rather than the stars holding everyone down to a lower level out of fear , ignorance, or lack of understanding on how to effectively manage........

Shane:

I'm fully aware of the taboo involved with speaking about previous employers in a negative-light on here, or anywhere for that matter. It looks bad, I know. And nobody wants to hire somebody who might turn around and blast them on here down the line. It makes perfect sense.

But Cheryl Harle is in a league of her own as an employer. I've NEVER had an issue with ANY former employer until NOW. I left a great station w/ a great GM, and a great PD, to work here and found out (too late) I had made the worst mistake of my young-career.

Still, I probably wouldn't have said anything if there hadn't been hundreds of posts before mine re: Cheryl being crazy. I know I'm not alone in my frustrations with her, and I thought venting here would be therapeutic for me. It was.

Thanks to all of you who have sent me e-mail's and words of encouragement. It's nice to see that there is still a REAL sense of community in this profession! To my surprise, there's still alot of really AWESOME people in Oregon Radio! I wouldn't want to be anywhere else!

Only one rule: Never, ever write what you cannot live with. If it's honest and defensible, the only people who will have real problems with it are those who have bigger problems of their own.

Comes down to this:

Are your values for sale or not? If they are for sale, there is no shame in that, but best be quiet or risk devaluing yourself. If not, speak with no worries!

The most irritating thing i hear on the radio today is Really good talent doing liner card Radio. How is liner card radio, good radio?
I understand If people don't want to hear a lot talk, I get that, But why do we always need to be remined that there is 10 songs in a row or that so and so is on in the morning. It just kills me that management think that is good radio. As a programmer you should want to put on the best product possible, and really get listeners listening and staying listening to your station. I think a lot of programmers/management who are burnt out, uncreative, and have lost all there passion in radio resort to liner card radio, and those are the ones who should be OUT of radio.
I fully understand why people say the Disk Jockey is dying, and it is because they are resorted to liner card radio, they sound like Robots. Let a disk jockey have some personality and you might be amazed at what a creative, interesting product your station is to other people. Connecting with an audience is not something that every jock can do, but boy, when you hear a jock that says something interesting or does an amazing bit with a caller, it is a beautiful thing.

Omega3,
Perhaps you misunderstood me. I was saying I'm NOT one of those people who thinks it's a bad idea in what seems like an extreme example of a bad employer; it's more of public service, really. Maybe she'll get her "just deserts" if no self-respecting professional will work for that station.

Shane:

Gotcha.

Omega 3 is right on. Those defending Cheryl Harle have certainly not worked for her. Don't ask me how I know - but there is much more to the story than is even presented on this forum. Applicants beware!

Is "liner card radio" what the guy does on the 60's 70's station in the afternoons? Does it mean reading jokes from cards? I really hate that. I enjoy the music, I just want him to tell me the name of the artist and song and then shut up.

>>>>I just want him to tell me the name of the artist and song and then shut up......

And I already know the artist and the song, have heard them all a million times, own most of them, and can sing along with every one of them. SO they better do something along with the title/artist to keep it fun and interesting to keep me wanting to listen rather than putting on the CDs.

THE BIG QUESTION IS.... How do they please both of us?

The answer is, Roger, you don't...but the corporate types seem to have settled on pleasing Angryman and not you or me.

What the corporate types don't seem to realize is that if all they are going to give us is liner card readers...or worse yet, jukeboxes like Charley...we can just put on the CDs or the Ipod. Hell, when we play our own music we don't have to put up with songs we don't like or worse yet ads. Maybe that's why I'm listening to CDs more and more.

When I turn on the radio I expect to be entertained. That's why in the afternoons I listen to Dr. Doug, Daria and Skippy. I wish there was something as good on in the mornings, middays and evenings. Somehow I think, though, the radio is going to become less entertaining as time moves along.

Well, I'll have to be satisfied to know that when I am put in charge of all radio VTing and liner cards will be outlawed. It'll be all personalities 24/7.

I really think the recorded liners on K-Hits are part of their break in period and don't expect to hear them much longer. Perhaps, they'll be replaced by jingles.

I have to ask: All of the people who have worked for this station - were they fired or did they quit?

Quit. Couldn't stand to work for her. Best move I ever made was leaving AGPAL

sickandtired:

A combination of both -- I'd say alot have quit or were on the verge of quitting when Cheryl saw what was coming and axed them before they had a chance to prepare, line up something new, or accumulate more money toward their last paycheck.

If you're going to leave; she wants to be in control of when and how that will happen, and make sure you're not going to be taking too much of her money with you. She's set up the payroll in such a way that it really benefits her in the event you DO decide to leave.

For instance, about 1/3 of my salary is given to me in "COMMISSIONS", so that if I EVER decide to quit, she doesn't HAVE to give me any of that portion on my last check. Also, this "COMMISSIONS" portion of my check is taxed at near 50 percent, as the state considers it something like a bonus.

Further, she pays only once a month, on the 10th (unless this falls on a Saturday or Sunday, in which case you get paid the following Monday), and those are your wages for the previous months work -- seems really shady to me.

I have a small garnishment on my wages, and am penalized $50 every month because she refuses to send my garnishment in on-time. When it came time to get my income tax refund last April, It was short nearly $700.00 because these penalties were adding up and interest was being accrued--unbeknownst to me.

On a few occasions she's had people put in their two-week notice, and then fired them on the spot, telling them to pack their things and leave NOW.

Other times she's hired people, sight unseen, over the phone from places like New York, and Texas only to have them pull-up to the station in a Uhaul and decide that they don't fit the station's "image" -- fired, before they even unpacked their moving truck.

She's brought many of grown-men to tears...It seems like she gets some kind of sick satisfaction out of it.

So, to answer your question -- it's a little of both, though probably more people are fired -- alot of them were going to quit anyway.

I really think the recorded liners on K-Hits are part of their break in period and don't expect to hear them much longer.

You wish semoochie! That Geeky voice liner guy is probably here to stay. By the way, who is that Geek that voices those liners? Will someone please tell him its time to move out of his parents basement! The Reason why he has never been with a woman is because he keeps talking about Pet Rocks and Cartoons when he was younger.

It's interesting to me how many people blast "liner - card radio" on this board, when in fact, I hear very little of that in PDX - and where it is in place, it seems to make sense for the format (e.g. soft A/C).

From Country to Hot A/C to Talk to Rock, I hear quite a bit of non-liner card radio in this market. It may not be to your taste, but there's lots of entertainment, IMHO.

Liner Card Radio = time/temp/title/artist/positioner/time/artist/title/billboard up coming music/time/temp/title/artist...

I can't speak for the fun some of you have been having at the beach, but I can endorse a lot of these observations about managers and PD's who think they know it all, but they really don't know squat.

MY VERY FIRST JOB was at KTW AM/FM Seattle when I was a junior at Queen Anne High. I was a talking tape jockey on a Christian station.

The owner, Norwood J. Patterson, lost the stations when he failed to make payments. When the station went into receivership, and the attorney entered the Northern Life Tower Building and began posting notices on the walls of every room, every studio, every control room, Patterson drove out to the transmitter site in West Seattle and stole the finals right out of each transmitter. If he couldn't have his stations, nobody could! The self-centered arrogant numbskull failed to look in the spares cabinet. We were back on in a few hours.

Norwood J. Patterson did two years in Club Fed for that. He and his Christian management team floated from area to area for years. They're now still wrapped in their faith, owning and running a chain of stations in Central California. They're not Christians, they're crooks. They're not managers, they're phonies. They're not broadcasters, they're opportunists.

I had to tell this story to the FBI when an agent interviewed me as the U.S. Attorney was gathering evidence for prosecution.

We were young, talented and dedicated people. But we really didn't matter. We were just pawns.

By Notalent on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 10:00 pm:

Liner Card Radio = time/temp/title/artist/positioner/time/artist/title/billboard up coming music/time/temp/title/artist...

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Actually, "Liner card radio" = jock is only allowed to say what has been previously scripted or outlined by the PD -- vebatim.

"time/temp/title/artist/positioner/time/artist/title/billboard up coming music/time/temp/title/artist" = a lazy jock

(assuming he's given the reigns to do more, but doesn't)

This will be my last post to this thread:

BOSS-FM is a VERY successful radio station. And it sounds REALLY very GOOD -- I would even say it sounds AS GOOD or BETTER than most of the Classic-hits stations in Portland or Seattle.

The people who work there are some of the best in the state.

BOSS-FM probably has more client's on the air than any other station in the county (and probably on the coast)

Cheryl is an incredible SALES-PERSON.

My problem is only with the way management treats it's employee's, and the unrealistic expectations put on them.

That said, this really WOULD be a good opportunity for: someone young and healthy, who doesn't scare easily, is computer-savvy, VERY organized, a bit creative, doesn't mind working long-days and weekends, and really, really, REALLY wants to learn how this business works/get their foot in the door.

The pay IS above market average -- but the woman cutting your checks knows this, and will make you EARN every penny of it.

Sounds to me like a good place to work and learn how to do things right.

It's a place to work and learn how to do things.

At some point early in a radio career, it's good to have a gig like this. It's boot camp, it teaches you way more than you'd ever learn in an easier job, and it motivates you to move ahead and get the hell out of there. I had a couple of bosses exactly like that, and I curse their memories even as I prosper using the skills they drilled into me. It's kind of the Boy-Named-Sue effect...you get tough, or die.

Back in the era Andy Harle was the other half of the "dynamic duo" of Oregon broadcasting; when they owned the "station at the beach" and K-Wheat in Pendleton, I had the misfortune of being a General Manager for them. I won't relate the specific challenges I had with Cheryl, but leave it to be said since my departure, several program directors and production directors, a herd of very talented jocks, an army of sales people and a couple of GM's and SM's have gone to work elsewhere. And I suspect, the majority of these past employees didn't list Cheryl as a reference. I sure as heck didn't. Unforntunately, the challenges at "Boss Radio" increased exponentially with the sudden passing of Andy Harle. Since my GM stint, my wife and I almost got sucked into going to work for Cheryl. We were treated as Cheryl's chattle before we even said yes. She had called one of my longtime broadcast friends and prevailed on him to let her use his studios (free) to produce promos announcing my arrival at her station prior to agreeing to go to work for her. And all this with the request to sign a non-compete contract and no specific talk of compensation. My wife who used to work for Gannett in advertising for years finally said no. The harrassing phone calls continued for days until I called and left a message that I wasn't coming and neither was my wife. A number of my fellow broadcasters consider Cheryl a nice lady, but that she has an over-inflated view of her abilities, success and her impact on the biz. The challenges in Newport, Oregon are a little different than say Portland or Eugene or Albany, eh? When many of my broadcast friends heard of my decision no to go to work at KCUP and The Boss, visa vi Cheryl, several called and emailed confirming my decision. 'Nuf said.

I worked with Andy/Cheryl at KZUS/US101 back in 1994-1995. Didn't see Cheryl much, but man, did those two get into some awesome fights over the telephone! Did they know radio? I'd say yes. But their business sense and people managing abilities...ugh, they SUCKED!

The jist is, when a few people leave over time chalk it up to personality issues, and better opportunities... when many people leave, and the atmosphere is more revolving door, then poor personnel management skills are to blame. If you create a hostile work environment then bet you are not as successful as you could be... For some OK is good enough. Some people don't realize what keeps them from the next level...........An efficient workplace doesn't have to be a gulag.......

Interesting thread, but let me add from a different perspective, from an Ad buyers perspective...I was looking to cover the area from Astoria to Waldport was an introductory offer to my product. I met with large and small operations and bought ads from KAST, KTIL and KORC.

That left me the greater Lincoln City area to cover, hence my choices of KNPT/KBCH or The Boss and KCUP.

I had a GREAT conversation with LB from for KNPT/KBCH and came up with some competitive pricing, comparable with the other markets and I bought the coverage (THANX LB!).

Next came Cheryl...now...how do I say this tactfully(?). In my business, you don't insult customers or potential customers - you educate and give a better picture of what YOU can offer versus the 'other guy'. What you don't do is whine, make noises of exasperation and tell a potential client "that's a stupid move...you didn't buy the 'Big Gun' in the market...US."

Nor do you tell them "you made BAD choices, you're wasting your money by not buying the 'Big Gun'!"

After being insulted - I found the hackle on the back of my neck rising and started to defend myself when I realized that the best approach was to tell her that I already bought the coverage that I wanted from LB at KNPT/KBCH...I thot I actually heard the blood vessel break through the my cell phone....no matter, at that point I said no thank you Cheryl...EVER! I won't be spending my company’s money at someplace that insults me...catch a clue!!!

I may be new at ad buying, but I know the difference between being treated professionally by someone with integrity about what they do and being treated like "the scrapings off your shoe".

I'll take professionalism EVERY time!!!

Newmarket---
Your story confirms for me that Cheryl hasn't changed a bit over the years. Whew!
You did the right thing...

Someone send a link to this thread to this lady, I'd love to see her respond.

I have never met Cheryl or ever listened to her station, and this thread is still one of the most interesting and entertaining threads on this board in a long time.

I guess The BOSS really means THE BOSS...........

Been sent, no response yet.

It would sure be fun to see a reply, but read the thread from her point of view, and bet any reply wouldn't be thanking people for the constructive criticism....

"Tough business... dog eat dog... not in it to make friends, in it to make money... bunch of disgruntled ex workers who couldn't cut it....
only the strong survive.... if you were as smart you would be managing a station.....My mom can whup your mom, and I can whup the both of them".

Did I leave anything out?

I'm often surprised at how many small businesspeople have this kind of attitude... yet they seem to survive, sometimes in spite of their own efforts.

That's why they're in small business, they'd be canned in any sort of job where they'd be accountable to someone else.

One of my favorite radio stories is to tell the time I went over to interview with Cheryl three summers ago. I had a nice conversation with her on the phone the night before and was so excited to drive over I had packed some my stuff in case it turned out well.
I thought it was me ... the interview went horribly (I sat in the waiting room for nearly a half an hour) from the first minute. Cheryl told me I didn't have enough experience in radio to work there (this is after nearly 25 years in the biz as everything from news to sales to play-by-play to on-air). She wanted me to write and produce a :30 spot, with music ... on their equipment. I did a horrible job of that, too.
Since I'm so hard to get along with, anyway, I figured I had come across badly to her.
This is an interesting thread. I think this could be a great experience for someone.
By the way Newmarket, did LB used to work at "The Boss?" If so, that's pretty interesting. If it's the same LB, he kicked butt in Corvallis.
C'mon folks. Where's your sense of challenge? I've always enjoyed a good fight with the boss ... but bosses sometimes don't enjoy it so much. Right, Mike.

steve, dude, look at the website for "the Boss". Then click through to the am kcup.
Her pic is there and it is exactly what I imagined from my one phone conversation with her:
about one too many bottles of Jack and two too many packs of smokes.
She is one hard lookin woman.
Your story is great though mah man. I am so glad my wife put the kabosh on my going over there 2 years ago for an interview. Mrs dodger has great intuition. She said "no freakin way I am living in Newfrigginport!"
Or something to that effect.
When mrs harle didn't dig the idea of my commuting, that sealed the non deal.
Someone surely can handle this lady can't they? Maybe that jaquel chick?

Geez Dodger, I know Jaquel can come off as whiny and needy...but what did she ever do to you?

That is one scary photo!

My wife loves Newfrigginport, but I would stand a better chance at Yaquina bay than workin for THE BOSS..........

P.S. IF Steve didn't have the experience to go to DAS BOSS, Jaquel would just be hello, NO, goodbye!

She looks like she might eat nails for breakfast.

http://www.kcup.net/listening/#harle

hey sorry onetime, didn't mean it that way, I meant she seems pretty tough so thought she might be able to handle mrs harle.

Damn, I gotta knock off this subtle stuff.

....great local content..... :-)

I know, Rogertoo. All that local programming is great. That's why, I think, it would have been so much fun to work there. And, Dodger, old friend (I almost stopped by the station to say "hi" on Monday), living in Newport would be wonderful.
I love Livin' La Vida Local.

Ricky Martins new hit IN A GADDA DAVIDA LOCA.....

Reminds me of when I was offered the opportunity to be the Producer for the "Brunch with Barb" show on KLAY... Duties included Booking guests who would pay a fee to be on her show... pay was small portion of said fee...

Hmmmm, makes me think... How about "Coffee with Jacquel and friends"? Now, you might sell Cheryl on that idea! get your local guests to pay a fee for airtime!

If you are a woman and want to work for her, you better make sure you are older and uglier than her.

Hmmm. Is that possible? Who fits that bill, both inside and out?

That definitely excludes all of us cool chicks here.

(Welcome, Southfork)

Thanks for the welcome, Mrs._merkin. I'm just droppin in from the little town of "horrorville".

In regard to living in Newport. It is not what it seems to outsiders. Imagine, Sweethome, with an ocean.

Sweethome needs an Ocean!... I thought it was kind of dumpy, but maybe things have changed, I haven't been through there in years........

Yet, for what it is Sweethome homes should cost thousands less than they actually do!

Actually, my first radio job was in Sweet Home. I enjoyed living there. Sweet Home with an ocean would be kind of cool.

Actually Steve, Sweet Home is better the way it is, not so cold all the time. by the way, speaking of KFIR, what ever happened to B.R.? is he still around? Oh, and yes, LB was the LB from the mid valley, the guy's been around forever, and he did a helluva job as the Boss morning man, kicked butt with one hand tied behind his back, and as i understand it, he was a very good salesman, i think c.h. also had him doing the emt engineering and a boatload of other stuff. He bailed out last summer and went to work at YBC, last time i saw him he looked 10 years younger.

I concur with Wannabe on LB. He DID kick butt as the morning man. Guess some people don't like to be surrounded by professionals...kind of intimidating to some managers.

My mother's first cousin(my first cousin, once removed)was the founder of White's Electronics. I'm not sure there would be much of a Sweet Home without it.

Some observations and opinions...

Linn and Benton Counties make up the Albany-Corvallis-Lebanon market. Sweet Home is nestled somewhat in the foothills to the east of Lebanon, and is probably the most scenic of the towns. Corvallis still feels like a small town from a different era, despite OSU. Albany is influenced by I-5, and Lebanon, (no offense to anyone from there), has little to offer.

This is an odd market, as it is about 40 minutes north of Eugene, and a little more than an hour from Portland. It feels like neither. Almost has a midwest feel to it. There are local radio stations, however many listen to Eugene and Portland.

As for Newport, it is isolated, somewhat insular, somewhat expensive, crowded during summer (101 is a nightmare), but if you love the ocean, it is perfect. BTW, 101 between Newport and Lincoln City is one of the most beautiful stretches along the entire coast.

FYI LB told me a while back he had open heart and was now back having fun in radio again.

Paul, yes agreed about the stretch between newport and LC..... wife wants to retire there someday..... we already have a tent! :-)

Then I can work at YBC!

Hey steve-

my first gig was at KFIR too. Good Ole' pleasant valley road. What years did you work there? I guarantee nothing has changed since you left! Same Bauer xmitter, same board, same production room. The place is permantly frozen in 1974...

They're about to go 10k, - did you know?

The Albany/Corvallis radio scence hasn't been the same, since the demise of 103.7 KIQY...and then, KXPC. 103.7 has been an outdated, jockless jukebox since the Fall of 2004. This is very sad!

Back in the day, KRKT and KFAT were duking it out, KIQY was rocking, mid valley radio was interesting and entertaining. And those guys were pulling huge numbers, they rightfully earned and owned their own market. Strangely enough, they all had live jocks 24/7, radio was a fun job, and the corporations had not reared their ugly heads,yet.

I'm in agreeance wit' ya on that one wannabe.

On air talent makes ALL the difference between quality and ho- humm radio. When I was first at KXPC back in '99 and it was 24/7 live- oh my God, that place would smoke. I'd be filling in overnights and get sometimes 30 phones an hour even at 3 am. There is a special connection that is made between dj's and listeners. I think that in alot of places, the corporate wigs have forgotten about this..

Tim,
I started at KFIR in April, 1978 (I still have the rate card somewhere) as an afternoon announcer and in the 18 months I was in Sweet Home, Oregon (where the skies are blue) I became the news director, the morning announcer, the production director (I wrote some killer commercials, some of which I still have on cassette) and I did Husky football through the radio station on the local cable system. Ahh, those were the days. We had two owners, neither names I remember. (one of them had a wife who was a doctor).

Congratulations to all who followed...I built KFIR, literally. Was the CE, PD and morning man, did a little part-time sales, too, mowed the lawn and chased news in my spart time. The first part-owner/GM, Dennis Celorie is now living in the Sarasota Florida area. The early days were really a ball! The majority owner was the town Pharmacist, named Groves. Ralph Cook came up occasionally from Eugene to help with some of the engineering and having moved out of the Eugene area to start the station, Dennis and I called on some of our Eugene friends to come up for occasional part-time work and vacation fill in i.e. "major Tom" Lichty, KUGN's Traffic Guy. There was absolutely nothing more rewarding in my career than starting a small town radio station from scratch.

Hey steve-

sounds like what I did. I got my start doing light stuff there , and then that progressed into a shift, and all the other responsibilities..

Hey been there.. Do you have any pics/ airchecks of the begining days? ANy stories? radiotimryan@hotmail.com

Oh yes, Groves pharmacy..

The stations' quality has diminished in the last several years due to Bob's health, God bless him.. ( just saw him the other day). Don Procknow is a friend of mine and sounds good on the country store. As far as the other guys there-- NOOO coment..

BACK TO THE BOSS. The station itself is well positioned. Basic best of 60's and 70's in a market that is very receptive to such a format. But the station has always done well. The fact that Harlowe is now there simply points to the woman's sales skill. She is a closer. She has attracted a slew of very talented people over the years, just to see most of them run out the door screaming. She hires people, places them on a pedestal, telling them that "it is so good to finally have a professional in the station to help me deal with these people who just don't get it", gushes over them for a couple months, then the honeymoon is over, and they get their regular turn "in the barrel". But back to Harlow, he is a talented radio guy, but, I would bet that he does not have to spend regular time in the radio station.

Tim,
OMG. I FORGOT about the Country Store! I still don't know what a "boomer" or a "binder" is ... but I sure had one to sell every day. I do have some pictures but I'll be hard pressed to know which bin they're in. This was during the time KFIR expanded the building to the east of the production room. I even got to design my own little newsroom, complete with the slot in the desk for the AP paper.
I dropped by one day a few years ago and nobody knew who the heck I was ... or cared.

Beenthere: You should get a kick out of this. The 1969 Broadcasting Yearbook:

SWEET HOME (503) Linn County
KFIR Aug 7, 1968 1370 kc; 1 kw-D.
Box 611. (97386). 367-6168. Santiam Bcstrs Inc.
Net: ABC. Rep: Pacific West; Northwest Time Sls.
Spec progs: C&W 25 hrs wkly.
Dennis J. Celorie, pres & gen mgr; Herbert A. Schacher, coml mgr; Kenton E. Sturdevant, prog dir & chief engr.

wasn't KFIR originally the call sign for KBBR in North Bend?

Yes! The calls KFIR were first used on 1340kc in North Bend when Bay Broadcasting Co. requested them in 1951.

Hey, Wannabe. Sounds like you've had first hand experience at the BOSS. How many employees can you count that have come and gone in say...the last 4 years? By the way, I heard she refers to herself as "the Boss of The BOSS.

This is a scary thought but I wonder if anyone has made it in Newport by doing "special favors" for the boss?

yuck.

Why would the boss want to mess with a lowly employee?

Why would a lowly employee want to mess with "the boss"? Of course, as we see everyday, there is a price tag on most everything. Omega3, no truer words were ever spoken.

I am still curious about the number of "fine folk" that have left the BOSS is the past few years. Anyone in the know that might speculate?

EVERYONE EXCEPT NEWPORT RADIO.......

Uh, Roger....'splain please!

(We could all use a good laugh!)

It's not so funny when you explain it.......

I thought about how I could twist that into a joke, and I have nothing!

Now Trevor actually working for Cheryl.......

That would be hilarious!

Mknox, in regard to the number of folks who have felt the fire of the "Boss". Keep in mind that the operation has run with basically, two on-air types (who also do sales) one sales person, traffic/receptionist, and of course, the Boss herself, which we won't count. Ok, four staffers. In the past 3 years, here is a rough body count (there are more, just cannot remember)
Casey,Rob, Larry, Michael, Jenny, JoAnn(r.i.p.),
Matthew, Paul, Debby, Angie, Carrie, Deb, Jay, Shane, Phil, Dusty, Rex, Tony, Kim, Maria, and Andy (r.i.p.)....Oh, yes, there was a husband and wife team, can't remember their names, and others...Gee, I guess that's just normal turnover.

Define "normal"!!! Makes you wonder how one operation can survive with that kind of turnover. Does that say something about small market radio? More than that, it makes me wonder if people are that hard up for work.

doesn't say anything about small market radio...
in any business High turnover is either a result of it being an entry level job... fast food and the like, OR bad management....

You can't help but wonder if better people skills would make "DAS BOSS" a more successful operation.

Based on some other smaller stations and their lower turnover rate, in this case it probably
says everything about MANAGEMENT style and philosophy......

mknox, nearly all of the people mentioned as having been through Da' Boss experience were broadcast veterans. Some had actually been successful G.M.'s, and business owners, including the present head Dude at the OAB. Each had heard the rumors and wild stories about working at that station, but, apparently each one thought that "Da' Boss of Da' Boss" just had not met them yet. After all, they must have reasoned, having been in the business for years, they had the experience to successfully deal with any personality type. WRONG! OH, SO WRONG! And yes Roger, Da' Boss could soar, if only it had decent management. Because an oldies-type format is perfect for the beach, where that older demo rules. But that ain't gonna happen in this lifetime.

I totally agree with Rogertoo and Wannabe. My comment had nothing to do with the personalities that she hires...it had to do with listeners not having a lot of choice of who to listen to in small markets. Too bad. People live in small communities because they like the slower, more layed back lifestyle. It does, however give you less choice. It also gives the advertisers less choice. Let's face it, the format is good...

...Because an oldies-type format is perfect for the beach, where that older demo rules....

I would almost kill to be in that situation....

We have all run into managers who feel that the title "Boss" means ruthless dictator.... Hey according to the people who work for me, I'm great, but every last one of them thinks my boss sucks, as do I. I'm sure he thinks he does a fine job.

What works for me is giving my people jobs to do the getting the hell out of their way and letting them do it... The results are always first rate and exceed expectations..... When my boss shows up, he micro manages, makes everyone do it the corporate video way, and the jobs always take longer. when a problem arises, I work around it and find a solution, he stops... I know who does what best and that's where they work then move them to other areas to work with more experienced people.... he likes to put people in unfamiliar situations and let them work thru it...

Different styles... Corp loves my boss because he is a by the book corp guy... Me, I am dead ended. do my job well, but add my own pages to the book if they make the job go smoother....

Some companies appreciate that.... some don't.

A good manager will always make for a better work environment. If your employees know what they are doing, give them the job and know they have the skills and talent to do the job. Check in on them, give them a few words of praise, bake them cookies once in awhile, and they will bust their asses!

Constantly look over their shoulder, always criticize, and carry a my way or the highway attitude, and you are always looking for a replacement................

R2 sounds good. You make sense as a boss. Very un-corporate, I like that. In regard to living at the beach and playing oldies. Yeah, seems like a good gig. But, oh my god! The reality of the situation is so weird. But you, know, when I really think about it, it's a test of courage for any broadcaster. One may think they have a handle on things, thinking to oneself, "we'll I've been in this business a long time, I've done it all, I've seen it all". But deep down inside, you may have these little nagging doubts. Are you up for a test of your courage? Do any of you you have the balls to give it a shot, well, punk, do ya'? Seriously, it might be a lot of fun to work at Da' Boss, and besides, she has not met you yet. (with that one I'm cracking myself up)

t'was awhile back, several years in fact, when Mizz. C. told me I did not have the qualifications she was looking for....

never met in person, and the phone call lasted about that long!

betcha I could work at least PT for her competitor tho...

Don't feel badly about being told that you did not have the qualifications to work for her. Take that as a compliment. Anybody who can work for the woman, for an extended period of time, is either desperate, or heavily medicated. Or both.

Anyone worth a hoot has been told "I am so glad to finally have someone professional working here." Doesn't take long before you are told "you have no idea what you are doing". If you can take that kind of encouragement from your boss on a daily basis, this job is for you.

THE "BOSS" STRIKES AGAIN!!!! ARRRRRRRRRRGH!
Rumor has it that omega3 replacement was finally hired just last week, only to get canned the second day on the job....I guess he had not read this thread.

Bruce Springstein struck again??

Speaking of Bruce Springsteen, his latest album "We Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions" is absolutely incredible. A must buy if you like the Boss.

Wayne, Bruce Springtein has been performing in the Catskills for years now, small clubs but very funny man.
Probably best Jewish comedian since Morey Amsterdam.

wannabe:

are you sure he didn't quit?

Omega3, pretty sure he got fired after fumbling his first sales call. Besides, anybody with any brains (who would have the balls to quit) probably won't apply, thus leaving only total rejects who will end up getting fired. You, omega3, are irreplaceable. You could very well be the last production guy to ever work at the Boss.

Look! You could be the 11th production-guy to work for CHERYL HARLE in the past 5 years!!....

Look! You could be the 12th production-guy.....

R2....FUNNY!

This is too good...the "production" guy got fired on his second day on the job for fumbling his first "sales" call. What did you say she was hiring????

And life goes on...

Cheryl will continue to do what it takes to make money for her property.

Yes, some will disagree with her tactics, but one cannont argue with her ability to continue to maintain revenue. We can all argue about how employees are treated, but at the end of the day, she wants to win and she wants to maintain a steady revenue stream. It may not be right, but it is the foundation of what makes our system tick...

I still maintain that her operation is a good place to learn about our biz, warts and all. Try a "broadcast school", and compare. You'll learn a lot more, maybe good and bad, in Newport.

Well said...

By Dodger on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 9:55 pm:
Wayne, Bruce Springtein has been performing in the Catskills for years now, small clubs but very funny man.
Probably best Jewish comedian since Morey Amsterdam.


I thought the Catskills were in England.

Paul, Winning does not mean she has to treat her employees like dirt under her feet. making money does not equal having to go through people like crazy. Her operation is not a good place to learn, it is only a place to be discouraged, brow beaten and disapointed. Why would you throw a kitten into a pit bull areana? It's difficult enough trying to maintain an air shitf, production, remotes, and everything else that's asked of us. We shouldn't have to be in a work environment that is a constant state of chaos and anger. Plain and simple, Cheryl is a bully. She ought to be ashamed of herself for the way she treats everyone (and I do mean everyone) in her life. You've been there, so have I. Winning is no excuse for being that way she is.

I second that emotion...... It all boils down to management style. She won't change just as Marge Schott didn't. Steinbrenner is a bastard too, but he still gets people to work for him!

You can be very successful AND treat people decently....................

BUT, obviously you don't have to!

And those that don't treat people good are labeled as such among their peers. Not a legacy I'd personally be comfortable with...

I've been reading this post for some time, and I have a 1.5 cents opinion about it.

I once worked as a Production director a few years ago. At first, things were great. The pay was horrible, but I liked the staff, and it seemed like a laid back atmosphere. They used to tell me how good I was, etc.. All of this collapsed almost over night. It started because the GM created a psa for one of his many clubs that he belonged to, and asked me to mail it out all the radio stations within the area ( none of the stations requested it, btw) , which I did. A few weeks later, the SM came storming into my lil' studio asking me why I didn't send the psa's ( the GM after listening to several stations claimed he never heard it being played) . After explaining that I did, ( she didn't believe me) I showed her the out going e-mail file, and after examining the list of radio stations, she blew up and asked why K--- wasn't on the list. I told her I might have forgotten that station ( out of 11 or 12 that I sent it to) , & I'll e-mail it right out. WELL, they wanted to crucify me! Becuase I slipped and didn't e-mail the unrequested PSA to one station, I was a scumbag! ( as it turns out, none of the stations had any interest in playing it anyways. )

After that, it seemed that anything that went wrong was my fault!

When I got canned 6 or so months later, I was nice enough to train my replacement for a week. He lasted a month, and they fired him.

AS it turns out, they have had a total of 8 or 9 production directors in the last 4 years.

When you have that high of a turn around in a job title somewhere, it's usually not an employee issue, but an employer issue.


Once again, my 1.5 cents

-tim-

kinda like your current situation though tim.
23 out of 25 people gone in less than a year.

YOWIE!!!! a case where it's better to rent!

Omega3 and Paul W. coming to C.H. defense? Both of you must be having a difficult time finding work to stoop so low as to defend the management syle at Boss radio. OMega3, have some gonads, stick to your original story that started this entertaining thread. And, Paul, as far as producing revenue: yes, radio is a business, and producing revenue must be a part of the scenario. However, Paul, you seem to defend her producing revenue through any means possible, including the alleged abuse of employees. And that is just plain wrong. My opinion is, the woman has a loose connection on her mother board.

Wannabe, with all due respect, go back and read my last post. I wasn't defending her, just describing a situation. I know there have been issues with some employees (and potential employees), but I personally was treated very decently by her when I consulted the station last year. I can only speak for myself, however.

So then, Paul...why did you leave...twice?? I will wholeheartedly agree with Wannabe that there is never a time or any amount of money that gives one person the right to treat another cruelly. Most of us do the best we can each day, and there is no excuse for abuse and badgering. It makes me curious, though...does she not check any references when she hires all of these people that "just don't get it", or do they all of a sudden lose their brains and turn into bad employees the minute they hit her payroll.

This discussion has taken on a life of its own and I seriously doubt many outside of a handful of insiders care, but for the record...

I came on board in the late Summer of '05 to help Cheryl, mainly as a favor, to get through a period where one of her other employees had become ill. From the outset, Cheryl knew I would be a temporary consultant. (Since, she has hired former KISN and KFRC PD Bob Harlow to do similar work). When an opportunity to program in suburban Chicago came up, I departed. Cheryl was well aware of my plans.

I guess what is disturbing me most about this whole thread is that it seems to be a brutal attack on a woman who, in my mind, treated me well. I can appreciate others experiences and opinions of her, but as I said earlier, I can only speak for myself and my perceptions.

My choice to move on was due to my desire to advance my career, not due to any perceived betrayal or abuse by Ms. Harle. Can we please move on?

sI to am very aware of how things work at the boss. Cheryl actually gave me a job pre P Walker. I put my stuff into storage,gave my notice got ready to move just to be put on hold,for no apparent reason. I went to KZEL to update myself with their broadcast equipment since Tom the engineer had worked with her. What a complete waste of time. She may be a great sales person but she has no....I repeat no clue how to run a station!!! P Walker may consider going back just as a favor of course. The only reason the station remains solvent is because she still uses techniques she learned from Andy who did know what he was doing. I have 32 yrs. in this industry and I as many others have posted cannot believe
this woman. Paul was treated well because he wasn't sticking around for any fallout (no offense Paul). Everything that has been posted in this thread in a negitive twist is absolutly true....despite whatever P. Walker says.
Kudos to all who do tell it like it is without any worries about future reprocutions.

Perhaps Paul had the right attitude. Going in knowing you will be leaving completely removes any power such a person in power may have over someone in their employ.

Wannabe:

Make no mistake, I wasn't rushing to ANYONE'S defense. My feelings regarding Cheryl's management style have not changed. However, when I made those posts in June I was a bit more emotional about my situation. I DO think it's probably a good place to learn the business, warts and all as Paul said. In retrospect, I can look back on my year spent in Newport and say that I learned many things about this business. I am grateful for the opportunity I had there even if it didn't come to a happy ending.

As for my employment--I've been happily working in Portland at a job I probably wouldn't have gotten had it not been for my time spent in Newport.

Paul...people would probably move on (regarding you, anyway) if you didn't come on from time to time to defend someone who "treated you well". Let this be what it is...a thread that lets many, many others share their stories, warn the unknowing, vent, and perhaps "heal". Besides, as one said very early in this thread...it's really entertaining!!

She attracts talented (unknowing) folk to her station by using the "oh, I'm just a poor widow woman, being held hostage by my staff, and I need somebody with your professionalism to help me" Interestingly enough, that's the same line she used to recruit her staff in the first place. But nevertheless, many radio egos jump at the chance to be a "John Wayne" riding into town to save the "poor widow woman". However, it does not take long for the hero to become a zero in that environment. The reason why? The very thing she hires you for, your talent and experience, will soon challenge the dumb assed things she tends to do. And when you challenge her, you are gonna lose, because she is "Da Boss of Da Boss".

This thread continues to be interesting, informative and entertaining.

IMHO, this would be a great place to learn because:

-it's obvious it's a chop shop (to use lingo from another trade),

-the "save me" approach works both ways; easy to get in, learn what you can, leave with NO REGRETS,

-no need to respect each other the 'morning after', (both parties are concenting adults after all!)

-the only bridges worth burning are those that matter,

-one will get challenged in many important areas of the industry with high expectations,

-with so many people having passed through the revolving door, it's more like a rite of passage than anything else, no harm no foul. This is what marginalizes being dismissed from "The BOSS".

I have been through similar situations, in a different industry. Put in the proper perspective, "The BOSS" is a good thing to fill some time, while keeping food on the table. Just be sure and make some friends while there because you will need them in short order when you leave.

In a way, employers like this help to build their industry one pissed employee at a time!

Hey-

I'd just like to point out that I was the prod. Dir. at another station- not at KCUP ( I've had a couple of people calling me).

I posted my story, because it sounded veryyyy similar to the KCUP situation.

Tim, I think we can all agree,there are a large number of crazies who own small market radio stations. Thanks for sharing your experience. On that note, I don't know if being a crazy owner is something that happens once a person becomes an owner, or if it is what causes them to want to be an owner in the first place....anyway....the point is: C.H. is in a class of her own and any negative experience anybody has had at another radio station would seem trivial when compared to working for her.

I used to hear some horror stories about Cathryn Murphy!

"I used to hear some horror stories about Cathryn Murphy!"

Knowing from experience and others, I can tell you they are probably all true.

Ron Leonard has gone to work at the Boss. He obviously is unaware of this thread. Or.......

What's the over/under on the length of Ron's tenure at The Boss?

I've been saying this all along...Cheryl has the ability to bring in top-notch talent. How long they stay is another topic.

If he's desperate enough to go to work here, for her, he'll probably stay until his health can't take it anymore. One thing about it...all other's who work there have now been demoted cuz she's got another "wonder boy" for awhile, that is. I feel sorry for the guy that's been there the longest!!

Rumor has it that cheryl is ready to retire, and has brought on R.L. to take over as G.M.

If Ron is going to be on the air again, I wonder if we could get him to air "spin the pig", or "ride the hose", like the old days at Q105?

Cheryl will never retire...

I was promised something similar, never really took it too seriously...

But may I say, Ron Leonard is a legend. A true pro who sounded great wherever he worked! When I think of high energy jocks, I think of just two...Andy Barber and Ron Leonard. (And didn't they both work at KYTE in Portland?)

...back to back!

Ron Leonard was brought in to do Afternoons ,
some production and remotes.There is nothing
else to it. Cheryl is not planning to retire
anytime soon.

Now see, that's a perfectly typical On air position that is slowly disappearing!

An air shift, some production, and remotes!

Just like the good old days!

that sounds like a swell deal!

I would love to be watching from behind bullet proof glass the first time Cheryl tells R.L. that "you just don't get it!". She will, it's just a matter of time. Speaking of time, I give R.L. about 2 months at the Boss, before he walks.

Hey, wannabe, I can't disagree with you.

Cheryl is an excellent salesperson. Let's just leave it at that.

The Bob Harlow (current consultant to the Boss),and the Ron Leonard connection is interesting. Didn't Bob Harlow hire Ron Leonard when he programmed KFRC in SF? And didn't Leonard do some part-time for KISN with Harlow?

Either way, both pros...perhaps looking for that Oregon Coast "lifestyle".

I think any of us who remember Ron would agree that the guy is hugely talented. His talent is really beyond question. Veteran jock with great pipes, wonderful timing and delivery, sense of humor, etc. But, why is he at the Boss? That is the real question. Why would anybody work in that hell hole? Then again, I forget that he is getting old. And a lot of older jocks get the urge to move to the coast, and go to work at Boss radio, in an attempt to slow down and simplify their lives. But that is just a cruel illusion.

"And didn't Leonard do part-time for KISN with Harlow?"

Yes! Ron Leonard worked for Kisn-FM during both tours of Bob Harlow as P.D. First between the years 1990 to 1993. I don't remember him full time then. The 2nd period, part-time and then full time. (Afternoon Drive April 1, 2004 to July 19, 2004.)

If you gotta be on the beach you might as well do it ON THE BEACH!

...and how does that relate to radio?

Come on.......NOONE is hired at the BOSS to "just" do afternoons, some production, and remotes. Remember the guy who got fired on his second day as a programmer cuz he fumbled his first sales call? Cheryl is a "sales first" kinda gal. You know, it's all about revenue. So, I hope Leonard likes doing sales, too.

<<<<brought in to do Afternoons ,
some production and remotes

...then why is Cheryl on the air doing a remote at the 60's cafe? Can't she get her air talent to work weekends?

When Andy was alive he never let her near a mic. Her kept her out selling. As Paul Walker said, "Cheryl is an excellent sales person. Let's leave it at that." On the air, she relates to an audience, like she relates to her staff. And that is as if they were children or idiots. And in either case, that approach does not work. But when you are "da boss of da Boss", you do as you damn well please to feed your huge ego.

I Grew up listening to Ron on KYTE in PDX. Summer of '77, the 1800 screamer. Love it. Welcome Ron to the coast. I spent 20 years at KYTE Newport Addition, built my Miller and I can tell you that 74% of the people hired, had been in Harle (God rest Andy's Soul) Land, and couldn't take it. So Ron, perhaps you can find your way across the street and begin flying KYTE's soon. The coast has been very good to this Portland native. Can't find many, that have positive things to say about Cheryl, and with all the offers that were made to my friends to come and work there, she NEVER made me an offer. Wonder why.........!

One of the reasons he never let her near a mic is that "smoker's voice". It may have been sexy in the 50's, but not anymore. Cheryl has a "huge" ego, beyond imagine, and anytime she can have someone tell her they heard her on the air, it's a stroke to the ego. Not so unlike a lot of jocks, right? The difference is...most jocks have to have some talent, she just has to own the station. Just try to imagine the ego of someone who has deemed themself "the boss of the boss". Oh, but there's more...she always boasts that she "sets fashion trends in Newport". Has anyone out there actually seem some of the stuff she wears???!!!

Gosh do you think she ever reads these posts? Your discriptions of her remind me of the "fab" half white and half black haired madam in "101 Dalmations"

If she does, she is gonna be pissed!

I just made a few vanity searches. There is a real chance she might bump into these, if she uses the net much at all.

Searching on her name, puts this thread at number 5 and another one at number 4!

They are buried somewhat, if one is searching on the station and or Newport.

First of all, people like that don't get pissed when others fire at them...they catch the bullets with their teeth. But if for some reason she did read all of this, maybe she should seriously consider why it's all being said. One person can't possibly be right and all these others wrong. But, as we know, zebras don't lose their stripes, so she probably "just won't get it". I did, however like the comment about 101 Dalmations...a more appropriate kind of black and white.

So, Cheryl...What's the hurry? I mean, that was YOU running a red light today at 101 & 20th street in Newport, wasn't it?

Tommy I will have to be more observent. That is too funny. I will go through that intersection a little more cautiously from now on. It is the closest light to the fabulous underground studios.

Imagine the commercial you could make from that wreck..."You got eyeshadow on my lipstick". "Well, you got lipstick on my eye shadow". Two gross looks that look grosser together!! I crack myselp up.

Unless one had other investments to live off of, this sounds like the typical small market "work at the radio station AND at McDonald's" to survive.

After just a short period of time one can hear the teriffic changes Ron Leonard has brought to the Boss. In addition to his always large market sounding afternoon shift, it was surely he, who made the very smooth format change change from the updated oldies-type format the station had been playing to a more 70-80's format. The station sounds completely different than it did just a year ago. It's encouraging to see cheryl finally realize that she does not have the skills to direct programming or to manage the station.

The changes started in March,when I approached Cheryl about consulting the station.She has been great about letting my group reposition the station.The music mix now includes songs from the '80's that mix well with our core years of 1967-1978. We play some earlier '60's and some early-mid '80's. The format includes a 30(or more) minute music sweep every hour after 9am to 9pm.from 10pm ti'l 5am it's commercial free.We re-imaged the station using Bob Brooks as our station voice.Bonnie Knox(music Director) from KGON and KISN is involved with RCS issues and Ron Leonardwho also worked at KISN (and KFRC)with me is doing afternoons and production.

We have had some very nice comments about the sound of 100.7 BOSS-FM since the changes started 6 months ago.

Now as a consultant, If you would only take into consideration some of the comments on any radio board regarding the importance of L-I-V-E air talent in connecting a station with the listener.

so, Bob, that confirms there has been an official format change. I wonder if cheryl told her clients that she was changing format? last time when she made the switch from classic rock to oldies, she, er, ah , neglected to mention the little bitty detail that the advertisers were no longer getting the station they had purchased.

From a distance, it doesn't sound like a format "change" to me...just a "modification" or "enhancement"... Heck, even CBS's KOOL-FM here in Phoenix has made some adjustments in the last couple of years, and they're STILL a vibrant station with "personality"! (Maybe I'll get to hear The Boss for myself when our family comes up for the Christmas vacation...)

So relax, Mr. Harlow knows what he's doing...

As a listener, I can tell that Ron Leonard is the real driving force behind all that is good at the Boss. It will be interesting to see the changes as Cheryl steps down and Ron takes over completely. It's about time.

Cheryl....Step DOWN???BWAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Gee Tommy, I seem to have hit your funny bone.

Baby Jane can't step DOWN...they have no heels!! What I really wanted to say was "Wannabe, I have to totally agree with the great afternoon format changes since Ron Leonard came on board." Cheryl really picked a pro there. The station hasn't sounded this good in about a year or so. I sure hope Ron can hang on, and get along, if you know what I mean. The inner station turmoil does show through to the listener. So...good luck, Ron you are doing an excellent job of filling some shoes that have come and gone through the doors.
Markandrews: it's a great place to visit. I hope you tune in to Ron in the afternoons. Who knows, maybe he'll have the BOSS sounding even better by time you get there.

"The importance of L.I.V.E air talent in connecting a station with the listener."

Roger: No one understands this better than Bob Harlow. When Bob Programmed KGON & Kisn-FM he was very committed to live air talent. Budgets made it tough but Bob found a way. I was able to keep my live air shift weekend overnights. Without his commitment in this. I would've been replaced with automation in 2001. If there's a way at BOSS-FM, Bob will find it.

Has anyone seen my can of worms?

... Craig, I appreciate the fact Bob took the time to post. It is rare to see someone at that level take the time. As I re-read what I posted It occured to me that it may have come across as a bit critical, though I didn't mean it as such.

It was more as a discussion point. There just doesn't seem to be ANY opportunity to discuss staff cuts, excessive linercard reliance, overuse of VTing and other decisions that have trimmed so many jobs with someone in a decision making position. We can bang it around among ourselves, but, some people think operations are too thin in the staffing department..... Some management people believe you can do without Air Staff.

I have my own thoughts based on what I see, what I hear, and what some companies have done to "control costs"

Though I directed the post at Bob and the boss, in reality it was of a more generic nature.

Maybe, I should have started a new thread... Whether in school or in the work force, sometimes you want to know why.

Always easier when you can get real answers to a question or concern.

I figured the main reason Bob Harlow took the time to post on this thread was to make sure he got full credit for anything good that might be happening at the BOSS. However, there is still a huge amount of Ron Leonard seen in the changes, and I'm sure it's not "just because" he formerly worked with BH. Give credit where credit is due.

All or any one of us who tried to work for the boss successfully or not could have and most likely would have made changes similar to Harlow's....we were never really given the shot or the chance. I'm sure PW tried, as did others before Bob finally did the trick but I am just as sure that by the time Bob got there CH had heard the same thing over and over again. Bob is not a rocket scientist, and the boss is no provin ground. Bob just used common radio vet sense to bring her around,that and the fact she had heard the from others in the biz a million times, Sometimes in just take a million and one times however.
I appluad Bob for responding, and he knows very well all about CH now, firsthand good luck in the future Bob you will need it if she stays in the picture in any way shape or form.

A friend from the coast told me Ron and Cheryl had a big blow up with each other...Ron is still at the boss but was un invited to the Christmas party.

hahaha, how come bossradio.net doesn't even mention Ron Leonard?? Someone in Newport needs to keep us abreast of all THE BOSS drama.

Ron was not un- invited to the BOSS-FM Christmas party.
His wife Linda's Birthday was the same day and they had previous plans.

Hey Omega3
why do you say there is nothing about Ron Leonard
on the BOSS web site.
www.bossradio.net Click on About Us.Go there and read all about ,and see pics of Ron Leonard!

Wow, is this a soap opera or what?

As SNL's famous radio skit proclaimed..."good times...yes, good times". Where is Alec Baldwin when you need him?

The Boss thread has become one of the premiere threads on this site...always entertaining and good for a few chuckles.

Someone send me or post a Ron Leonard Boss aircheck! He is great, and I'd like to hear him on the coast's most talked about radio station!

Happy Holidays to Cheryl & Shannon and the rest of the Boss staff! Have a Boss Christmas!

My goodness how I love working from home while still playing radio.

Paulwalker, I just discovered this thread tonight, and I have to chuckle!

I remember speaking with you by phone some time ago about an opening at The Boss, calling back three days later and being told by Ms. Harle you no longer worked there, then getting a call from you two days after that saying you were back in a consulting role. I can't tell you how odd that struck me.

I have to say, however, I've worked for Infinity, Cox, and a few other big companies, and I've worked for some quirky local owners. They each have their unique set of challenges.

I have some level of respect for any local owner who holds things together in today's radio landscape.

just used common radio vet sense......

Who wants that? Just read the cards.

Merry Christmas to one and all.

I love the fact that this thread is 190 posts and going strong after a coupla months. Mother Carlson must be doing something right to ignite such passion!

Anonymable, you have no idea.

Just thought I would help get it to the 200 mark.
BTW what prizes are we giving to the 200th poster nationwide, BIG BOSS PRIZES I HOPE!

Hey O3 going back to 6-13 your words....

"This will be my last post to this thread:

I hope the others were "UnofFicial" otherwise you would be in violation of the last post rule forbidding all official posts to a thread once the poster has stated that this is their last post to the thread.

:-) hope your holidays were great.

Paul Warren, regarding your last statement: have you ever heard of "Stockholm Syndrome"

LOL! (atleast I have sense of humor about it!)

The popularity of this thread has prompted me to seriously consider a new career as a internet message board moderator. I'll be launching a spin-off website devoted solely to boss gossip in the spring. www.bosstalk.com -- no? :-)

OK omega .... where are you working now? do we
wanna talk about why you left in the 1st place?
and by the way if you ever get it together you
would always be welcomed back > Peace out. And
NO ! you cannot ever stay at the Liberty Inn Again!( almost to 200)

Why DID I leave in the first place? I could've swore it was because I needed a break...

This is post 199...... the next post in the thread will be OUR GRAND PRIZE WINNER!

Current or former employees are not eligible. Should any be the 200th poster, the prize will become the property of BOSS RADIO, and will be immediately destroyed.

Why can't I be boss?

Because Cheryl will always be Da Boss, and no one else will ever be good e-nuff.....

Congratulations to Steve Lindsley Our 200th nationwide poster. Steve wins a family fun pack, dinner for two, tickets for four, a pat on the back, and a big warm smile. Thanks for playing our game. Now back to another long commercial free music sweep, with no annoying DJs, no substance, and no intentionality.

Yeah, sure. I once played "Name That Song for a Dime" on KEX in the 70s and never did get my dime.

Ah, but Steve, do not despair, your real prize, the great stroke of good fortune, was that you never got hired out on the coast at "that" station. You will never know how lucky you are.

wannabe, how fitting since most of the HATERS
are exactly that" WANNABEES".... this radio station
continues to blow the doors off ALL their competition AND will continue to as long as I have anything to say about it..You hide behind
phony names because YOU probably work for the station WE are creaming in the ratings..I LOVE
THE BOSS and everyone in Lincoln County does to
EXCEPT the competition.. LOL get used to it.

Hmmm, too many hints as to who Boss Boy is...(but more power to 'ya!) but one small detail...are you not using a phony name too? Why not just say who you are? Nothing to be ashamed of...like Harlow, and myself.

Paul Walker (Boss July-September '05)

hi paul , no one hiding here, my name is
Mark Carroll.I sell advertising for the BOSS.
been there a year and don't see what the big fuss
is about.must admit though seems like everyone
is watching us though..

Thanks, Mark, I was thinking it might have been someone else...you are correct, The Boss rules the central Oregon Coast. And despite the hundreds of posts above (good and bad), the end result is exactly what you describe.

The Boss "Butt Boys" comment. (see above) The "hundreds of posts above" are from valid folks, and most of them know what they are talking about, the posts also refer to a time at the station that the Boss "Butt boys" cannot comment on due to lack of knowledge. The station has survived not because of management, but in spite of it. Perhaps today, things are different at the station, I truly hope so. In fact, if the working environment is better, it could very well be due to this thread that omega3 started last summer. This very thread could be keeping things more tolerable because somebody wants to prove it wrong. And for that reason alone, this thread lives on with the nobel purpose of helping fellow broadcasters survive an otherwise unsurvivable situation.

Good point, Wannabe. Sometimes a little "kick in the rear" can make a world of difference. (although, I probably would be one who you would consider "not knowing what they are talking about".) But I still insist that deep within "the boss" was someone who just wanted to win. Tactics at times perhaps questionable, but if a female could have gonads, she may have been one of the first to come close. So Boss 'on you central coasters! And Wannabe, seriously, best of luck to you as well...you are a top-flight radio pro, as well as one of the good guys in the biz. Hope you are having a happy and healthy new year.

Paul, there has always been that spirit of wanting to win at the Boss. That has never been the problem. Just look at the number of people who, in the past 9 years, worked there, only to have run out the door screaming. It's astounding to think for a moment that all those folks could be wrong. On the outside, things look great. The format is good and there is no competition to a 60's-70's station in the market. At least not yet. The trouble, in the past, has been, the person in charge would hire good people, put them briefly on a pedestal, telling them how wonderful it was to finally have somebody "professional" on the staff, (an insult to those already there) then, after a short time,do everything possible to stand in their way, demoralize them, and strip them of their pride. (Luckily, male testes have a tendency to grow back once one leaves that environment.) There have been numerous folks with four year degrees who were told that they "knew nothing". Veterans with years of experience as Pd's, GM's, SM's, Prod directors, etc. told that they "just didn't get it". Grown men reduced to tears. And God forbid, if you are a younger more attractive woman. In the past, with Paul, and so many others, as is true today,the likes of Ron, and Pat the station has attracted some excellent broadcasters. People with track records, who innocently fall for the "living on the beautiful Oregon coast line". I don't know of anybody who has gone to work at that station with motives other than to work hard and contribute to winning. Many of the people who posted to this thread have lived through some very dark days at that little station. Interesting thing is this: the really ugly stories have not been told on this thread. Yes, the holocaust did happen. I hope, and pray, for those still there, that it is finally over.

Yes it's over.... wannabe, so get over it>.(period)

Butt boy. STFU.

Wannabe. I second that emotion!

wannabe, why all the HATRED ? you are burning
up inside ? be careful man you'll have another heart attack? stfu? what kinda hate do you have for me? Why? Dude you have issues..Why does our success boil your blood?

Okay...I have GOT to get in on this thread. People all around Portland are talking about it... I listen to the BOSS everytime I drive through the Oregon coast. First of all wannabe... never trust a sales man named buttboy erm...bosses boy... He is most likely getting "perks" "sticking up" for the BOSS. Secondly, just a question... is it me... or does Ron sound a bit "out dated" in his on
air work? His style was hot in the 70's, but his jokes and humor just seem old... Also... did my ears detect some cheesy 80's tunes coming from my stereo last weekend? I thought the format was 60's and 70's....?

He could be easing off to match audience expectations.

Boy, I sure am glad I'm not in this business anymore. What? Oh. . .I forgot. . .Never mind.

There is no escape.

Have a nice day.

100.7 BOSS-FM is playing Hits from The'60's,'70's
and Beyond. Yes we have added some '80's (not all of them are cheesy) The majority of the music is from '64-'79.

So, the format is changed. Have you informed your advertisers that the station they bought is now different?

wannabe- "Interesting thing is this: the really ugly stories have not been told on this thread. Yes, the holocaust did happen."

-my entire crew up here in portland are dying to hear these stories! she reminds me of the time back east I worked for the anti-christ of radio. Ill share my stories if you share yours! ahh the good ol days of feeling so worthless and under appreciated... Jeffrey, you said it best... "THERE IS NO ESCAPE"!!!

The format has not changed. We only added
about 15 songs that are from the '80's so we have
included the "and beyond" to our Imaging and live liners. This has been the case since October.

Bob, what is really interesting about your comment, "we only added about 15 songs from the 80's", is how some perceive that as a major format swing. It really is more of an evolution, don't you think? When I was at The Boss, we tried to market the station to the advertising community as a "classic hits/rock" format, while in all reality were a 60's/70's oldies format. (I doubt few of those advertisers read this board, so I think we're safe) but the bottom line is in smaller markets you can get away with a little of that. But The Boss was a "beach oldies" station...lots of fun songs, lots of tempo, and maybe a few questionable hits thrown in just for laughs because people like to relax on the coast! Am I pretty close to what the formula should be?

Paul,
Yes I would call BOSS-FM a Beach Oldies format,
The station sounds fun even though there are lot's of Classic Hits/Rock songs spread through the music mix.It's kind of a hybrid of Classic Hits and Oldies. Just good music that fits well together.

And that's as it should be!

We get so hung up on radio "format" descriptions sometimes...listeners aren't as concerned as radio folk are about such things...

Paul, what Bob said about adding the 80's music is techincally correct. What he did not say, is that he has also added or increased the rotation of many 70's songs some of which are new adds. Thus, the combining of the 80's music with the additional 70's songs, indeed makes the station sound like it has changed format. And I would bet that the clients don't know about it.

If they don't know about it, and the next book is solid, does it matter?

Isn't part of the purchase the judgement of those that run the station?

Missing kskd, sounds a lot like bait and switch to me. "Oh gee, I know you signed a contract for a '32 Ford coupe, we thought you would not mind if we gave you a '76 Dodge instead."

Well, there is a solid case for them doing what they can to maintain the value of the air time right?

What does the buyer want and what did they purchase?

If they purchased a specific time of day, perhaps with a personality, or themed program of some kind, clearly changing that would be bait and switch.

However, if they just purchased air time in general, they are counting on that air time being appealing. Who owns that decision? Is it the buyer, or the seller of said time?

Seems to me the seller owns that as they are responsible for the airtime being appealing are they not? Buyers seek that appeal, but may or may not understand all the elements involved in getting that appeal.

Look at it another way too. Let's say somebody buys some blocks of time. With a station change, said change could:

-make things better
-make things worse
-not change anything significantly.

Taking a real coarse and simplistic view of things, we see that two of the three scenarios are not negative in the eyes of the person buying air time. So they've a 1 in three chance of having that time devalued, which they could address with some compensation that's not the end of the world.

They have a 1 in three chance of getting more than they paid for! That's a good thing.

And of course, they have a 1 in three chance of things not changing at all.

Seems to me, a solid speculative bet. Not something for your average AD buyer to be that concerned about, unless the track record of the station is spotty.

Which all comes back to this being in the judgement of those running the station doesn't it? Buying time with a solid station is part of the purchase. Letting that judgement work for you is all part of the relationship.

Adding some new titles is not changing the format.Almost all stations make adjustments from
time to time.A format change would be switching
from Rock to Country or CHR to Talk.BOSS-FM simply added some newer titles and centered the music about 4 years newer. It's still basically
the same just a little fresher.

That puts risk down near the bottom, more or less marginalizing the three scenarios I posted above. No brainer for anyone currently having bought air time, IMHO.

I personally would not think twice about it!

It would not matter if the station changed format entirely, Da Boss most likely would not mention it. History shows that to be the m.o. A few years ago, when the change was made from Classic Rock to Oldies, there was no mention at all. None.

Second wind for this thread..........

It's the thread that never ends....

Why does this thread never end? Because of people like me, and more importantly, it is a microcosm for a lot of small market radio. Why this particular station gets attention? Not sure, but probably has a lot to do with the history, the personalities, and the fact that, DUDE!, it's the BEACH!

History?? C'mon! The “History” of the radio station since AGPAL bought it is miserable, at best. A thriving country outlet, KTDO, simulcasting on AM & FM, AGPAL systematically dismantled it, first by disassociating itself with it’s then city of license (Toledo Oregon) then format change after call letter change after format chance ad nausea. KTDO AM & FM was a strong, vital radio voice for East Lincoln County. Local announcers, local ownership. AGPAL tried to run it from Pendleton. It didn’t work. The “History” of the stations since AGPAL bought it is miserable at best.

OK, I guess you are proving my point!

Here you go:

UNIQUE POSITION ON THE CENTRAL OREGON COAST

Boss 100.7 fm's sister station KCUP 1230 am, Newport, Oregon is creating a new position within the company. Work on the beautiful Central Oregon Coast with "top notch", well know broadcasters in the business. The individual will have multi skills in broadcasting, including: knowledge of traffic and accounting principals and procedures a "must". If you are looking to diversify your broadcast experiences with news writing and delivery, creative ability for clients images and marketing commercials for script writing and voice work, do air work as needed and you are well seasoned in the broadcast industry and want to be in a market where these radio stations win in ratings, performance, presence in the market and are talked about daily within the state of Oregon.....then this interview is for you. Be part of a team that does not have the same traditional job descriptions as most broadcast properties.

I want to talk with you, by telephone, and we WILL request your resume, air checks, references, mp'3s and other qualifications after a telephone conversation. This position is a brand new position that is diversified - full time, must be willing to live in Lincoln Country, and be "seasoned" in broadcasting.

Call Cheryl Harle , General Manager 541-265-kcup (5287) or 541-270-1434 for a discussion and overview of who we are looking for....IT MAY "BE" JUST YOU? Compensation will be according to how talented and seasoned you are. We are an equal opportunity employer.

BH-for someone who has been placed up on a pedestal by others in radio...don't know why????, you sure get defensive! What has CH done for you?? As was stated very early in this thread, everyone has a price, and it's quite obvious to an observer that she has found your's. The station (to someone who has lived in this town longer than I want to admit) has changed it's "tune" many times, and it DOES sound different, by a mile, than it did a year ago. Oldies and bubble-gum make an awful combination. Sometimes we are so far into the forest, we can't see the trees. I would say you are WAY in the forest!!

WOW! traffic, accounting, news writing, creative ability for clients, marketing skills, script writing, voice work, air work.... Thats kind of a tall order isnt it? Do they need a sales person? or an on-air person? or a traffic person? or an accountant?

Maybe I should apply!!.........(JOKING)

Sales accountant that loves being on air in traffic!

Mknox,

Thanks for the kind words.Sorry you don't like the sound of BOSS-FM.

Why would I care about how many times BOSS has changed in the past? I only care about it
since I've been involved.

I agree that BOSS-FM sounds different by a mile that a year ago. 10 months ago was when we ajusted the format.

I'm not sure I understand why that is troubling
you.

I also don't get your comments about everyone having a price.Of course people want to be paid
for the work they do.

What is "Oldies & Bubble Gum?"

The mix is Classic Hits/Oldies.

Wow that's a full plate! I have five of those skills in either experience or education, My hat is off to anyone with ALL of their requirements.

That whole package should be worth a very comfortable living.

Classic Hits/Oldies.... I KNEW that format works!

Come Work for The Boss 2....the Sequel Thread

No, we'd lose the rich history of this thread.

Any bets on when we'll have post #300?

I laughed when I read the line.."talked about daily within the state of Oregon."
They left out the words ..."thanks to PDXRADIO.NET

Hey Former_valley_girl, I think I know you. Are you in Eugene?

Mystery, no fair...I'm still trying to figure out who YOU are! (mainly 'cause you were working high school radio the same time I was, across the lake)...but I guess let the "mystery" continue!

Cheryl obviously has become aquainted with this thread as evidenced by her OAB job ad. Cheryl, why don't you register for an account and add your comments? A thread of this significance and popularity would most certainly welcome a response! And I mean this in the nicest way. A post from you would make this thread even MORE notable! Come on, it's easy. You don't even have to say who you really are and can hide your email. Cheryl, you know you want to comment...(AND DON'T ASK YOUR ATTORNEY FIRST!)

Paul,
dont hold your breath.although i am sure she has been tempted.

YEA!!! LETS HEAR FROM CHERYL HARLE!!!

Word has it there are going to be SEVERAL new job openings at Boss radio soon.... Look's like Cheryl's crew is crumbling again...

Man I wish I was a fly on the wall at Boss radio...

The only way she would post on here is for her to take a moment to set down the scotch and soda, and stamp out her cigarette, and tell one of her flunkies to post it for her.

Maybe she has... Hence the recent Boss boy posts.

You guys are so perceptive!! Why WOULD she ever have to speak, she has several Butt...er Boss Boys to defend her. And Bob, I never said I didn't like Boss FM, now did I? I only said you are so far in the forest that you can't see or hear the mismash of music you have going on. Yes, I said bubble-gum AND oldies. Your format is now UNidentifiable. Don't take it so personal. Quite frankly, I thought Ron Leonard had it sounding pretty good for awhile, but now it's gone over the edge...in my humble opinion. Perhaps you should go back to the music that was playing about 2 years ago when the station was sounding good. Someone has forgotten the age demo of the folks with the $$ around this community.

Mknox, it's interesting to hear from somebody who is obviously a civilian. Your comments about Boss radio do contain some valid points. Many radio folk would disagree with me, but what the listeners think is worth ten times what the progmmers and consultants think. And regarding the comments from others about the job opening, I say, "refer to the very first post on this thread."

Who said I was a civilian?? You can't judge someone by the posts they make, now can you? It really doesn't matter what I do (did), I think it boils down to common sense. No rocket science, just what sounds good to the people paying the bills.

One post in the last 3 days? Common y'all! We can do better than that! I say whoever is leavin the Boss right now, email me! Ill help them get a new job if they want to relocate to Portland or the surrounding areas... or even back east!! My hats off to people who have been beaten down in the workplace. I think we have all been there at one time or another, and we all know the feeling of helplessness when working for a crazy person.

Everytime someone leaves that place, it just pisses CH off. Even the thought of someone leaving can piss CH off. It is so timely and costly to keep training new staff.

You think she would catch on to that by now and start treating people better! hahaha

I called last week about the job...just to see if I could figure out what is going on around there...not to mention I could use a change of scenery (get out of the same town as my ex). Yes, I'm desperate. But decided not so hard-up to go to work at the Boss.
It appears her current traffic/office manager is leaving, make that RUNNING, at the end of the month. They were very vague about what the new person would be doing....sounds like the job will be created to fit the skills of the person they hire...no plan, no direction.
I don't like being set up to fail. I've never sold...don't want to...but was told everyone pretty much "sells", services clients. Not for me, thank you.
I've done traffic, but they have an on-air person who might take that part of the job if the new person can do other things....they asked a lot about news experience.
By the end of the call I didn't know what to think.
Anyone else check about the job? What were you told? What were your impressions? Maybe I'm overly critical after reading this post for the past several months.
I checked-out their website for more info abou the job...they try to sell you Boss clothing on their home page! Sleezy!!!!!
I'd be interested in knowing if any of you called about the job. At this point, you can have it!
If you noticed any typos in my post, don't worry about pointing them out to me....I'll see it when it's posted.

Angie: Could be the best job you ever didn't take.

Angie (above). Probably a pretty good decision.

Angie, Angie, when will those clouds all disappear?
Angie, Angie, where will it lead us from here?
With no loving in our souls and no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied

HAS ANYONE GONE TO WORK FOR THE BOSS YET.

This is the energizer thread....it just keeps going and going and going and going!!!!

Has it set a record yet on the number of posts? What is the record?

Yeah, "payback's a bitch".

and much, much more. From the OAB website:

News Anchor

THE GREAT OREGON COAST IS WAITING FOR YOU.

LOOKING FOR A SEASONED BROADCASTER WHO CAN WRITE NEWS STORIES, AND BE A NEWS ANCHOR ALONG WITH TWO OTHERS ON OUR AM RADIO STATION.... WE ARE GROWING AND ITS TIME TO CREATE A NEW POSITION...THIS POSITION IS WORKING WITH THE TEAM AT BOSS 100.7 FM AND BUILDING SISTER STATION K CUP 1230 AM RADIO..... WE ARE THE # 1 STATION IN THE MARKET.

AND THE MOST TALKED ABOUT ....WHY? BECAUSE WE HAVE WELL KNOWN AND SEASONED BROADCASTERS WHO ARE GIANTS IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY. WE ARE PROGRAMMED WELL, AND WE HAVE THE # 1 , MOST RECOGNIZED MUSIC GUY IN ALL OF OREGON....... KCUP AM IS JUST 1 1/2 YEARS OLD AND WE HAVE REALLY GROWN.... CALL CHERYL HARLE GM TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS MORNING AM DRIVE TWO HOUR NEWS BROADCAST THAT YOU WILL CREATE AND DELIVER, PLUS SPECIAL APPEARANCE IN THE MARKET, WORKING IN THE CREATIVE SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS ALSO A PART OF THIS JOB DESCRIPTION. YOU WILL LOVE OUR TEAM AND OUR STUDIO'S AND OFFICES.

SALARY DETERMINED BY YOUR EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE.

541-270-1434 541-265-5000 EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER

I'd like to know where Cheryl is getting her figures to claim her stations "#1" From her own web page:

For the second year in a row, KPPT 100.7FM is the #1 radio station in Lincoln County among adults 35 years of age and older (source: Arbitron's 2004 ranking).

There are no figures for her KCUP web pages. KCUP barely reaches out of the Newport city limits. The tower is located in TOLDEO, Oregon (the city of license) A limmited audience, for sure. Look at how they serve that community. Look at the web pages, and see how much programming is aimed at the city of Toledo.

The 2004 figures for The Boss are from 2003. 4 year old figures? C'mon. Even an insider, and creator of this thread, Omega 3 says that the #1 ranking is only in the 55+ demo.

Cheryl has a very creative way of making the station sound so wonderful. If the posts above are any indication, I'd run, not walk away from any job offering from AGPAL...AM or FM!

Hey Shannon...are you being replaced, did you quit or is "Da Boss" just adding another co-anchor?

If there is someone crazy enough to apply for this job (jobs) I wish them all the luck in the world. They will truly need it.

Hey TOMMY ,
get a clue KPPT 100.7 IS BOSS RADIO....

Omega 3 was just a little upset when he posted
and he said 55 and over and the competition
likes to tell advertisers 55+ but we all know
BOSS RADIO IS #1 in the 35 and up demo's.
(ACCORDING TO THE ARBITRON RATINGS)

Boss_boy, If anyone needs a clue, it's YOU

OK , Tommy i am clueless...fine.This Boss Boy
is done posting this thread since it has degenerated down to the last 3 haters who so
obviously have no lives.And yeah BOSS Radio
KPPT 100.7 is sooooo horrible (whatever).Oh and
by the way i spoke to omega just yesterday and
he told me he would LOVE to get his job back if
it were possible.my last thought to those who read this thread is simple,BOSS RADIO is the
perfect place to work if you are a professional
who knows your business,and do your job. People
who do their jobs have no problems at this station.We have 2 full time sales people and Cheryl. the jocks the traffic people DO NOT DO SALES, production yes,remotes yes,sales NO!

Well, then, it's official. I am NOT a professional. I do NOT know my business. And I DON'T do my job. I was wondering. This clears it up.

seems like some solid professionals don't hang around, and others don't make the cut.

Name the date this thread reaches 300 posts and win tickets for two and dinner for one plus a coupon worth 10 percent off your next dry cleaning bill.

BTW boss boy, as a professional, I resent your remark.

Steve, sorry your professional status is in question. Please feel free to take the requalification exam.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....I'm wondering how it is that Steve is working in Portland and where is "Boss boy"?...or is it box boy?

Boss Boy a little word to the wise...radio is a very small community and what you say could bite you in the rear if you continue to make remarks like you did to Steve...I don't know Steve, but I have heard him on the air and he's every bit the professional from what I can tell. Shame on you Boss boy!

For the record. I don't know "Boss Boy," but I kinda admire his spirit ... but there comes a time when you have to exchange your enthusiasm for what you do for a little respect. I was like him when I started in radio 28 years ago ... a little station in Sweet Home that I was very enthusiastic about ... but, somewhere along the line, you have to become professional and learn from those who know what they're doing. It took me a long time to learn lessons .. some I'm still hoping to implement. My advice to Boss Boy is to have a great time doing what you are, and learn to love it ... and those who share your enthusiasm. I've shared my Boss Radio story ... and it humbled me. I am blessed, truly blessed, to have landed where I did after a lot of evil. One day I hope to be a class act. Boss Boy, drink a toast to innocence and a toast to now.

Well put, Steve...

And I'll pour, if I may...

<clink!>

Cheryl is paying Boss Boy aka Mark Caroll, to stand up for the station, and create a stir in this blog. Also I hear that Shannon has been "promoted" to office boy while they look for a REAL news guy. one who will probably run away screaming after a month or two. I also hear that the poor girl who quit, was doing traffic and billing and production, was starting to have stress related health issues after her 10 months of being there, and has decided to go to graduate school. I have a friend who worked with her before, and I hear she is a top notch person to have on the crew.

Good grief, this thread continues to deliver!

BOSS FM deserves a Bravo type reality show. The only thing missing is the big city atmosphere that would appeal.

Maybe pay them for a move, and document the train wreck! Might seriously pay off.

Keep it coming guys, I'm totally entertained.

(and I'm an outsider, but *clink* the sentiment comes through loud and clear.)

CLINK CLINK CLINK!!!...(SMASH).....oops sorry.. I kind of got carried away there with those last few blogs...

Please, if you are going to have a reality show, no "confessions in my bathrobe" segment. That is one vision I can certainly do without.

I'll have a Coca-Cola. You guys go ahead and take the rest of the rum. <clink>

THE BOSS....More posts on a radio board than listeners.

there's a positioner for you.

Doesn't most everyone that works there end up having stress related health problems or other issues?? Has anyone taken a look at some of the staff?? People like her don't get them, they give them. This station probably has more health related issues than listeners (but who's counting?). Oh my, another positioner. Sammygirl: I knew she had to be paying (or demanding) Boss Boy to defend her. Noone would be that sensitive or defensive without a reason. He is just way out there on his comments. She probably writes it down and he types it in. Or maybe she breathes down his neck and just dictates as he types. Or maybe she sits up all night and writes and rewrites until it is perfect, and then he copies it. He actually thinks there are "haters" out there. I don't get that feeling at all. These are just a bunch of hard working professionals who are trying to protect some of the yet innocents'. If you can save one life, it's worth the time...keep them coming, I say!!

Let's hear from Omega himself about wanting that job back "if it were possible". Why wouldn't it be possible??

When you use people up, there is only one solid bite at the apple. After that, it's all diminishing returns.

It reminds me of a song. A portion of which goes as follows:

"Funny how the world works.
People can be real jerks.
Some prefer the tension over booze.

Either way it ends the same.
Hard to beat the living game.
Might as well enjoy it while you lose.


Yes, me, I've got a bottle in front of me,
And Jimmy has a frontal lobotomy.
Just different ways to kill the pain the same.

But I'd rather have a bottle in front of me,
Than have to have a frontal lobotomy.
I might be drunk, but at least I'm not insane!"

People complain about the big national chains (Clear Channel, Entercom) and rightly so.
But some of the least respectful, abusive and twisted working situations are some of these small
independent owners. Generally they're people
who were handed their stations by their daddy or
a spouse and don't have a clue of what it's like
to struggle from paycheck to paycheck and work for clueless, unappreciative, know-it-all bosses who truly don't have a clue. This is all too common of independent owners in places like
Burns, Klamath Falls and yes, Newport.

Ditto that Mysterydj! From what I hear, that station was much better off when the spouse was there...at least he was the cushion between her and the staff. But we all know where it got him. Maybe someday she will realize she isn't management material. But then again, most egos in that position never "get it". It will probably have to come down to her being "pissed off" enough times that someone talks her into getting out of the business.

Boss-Boy is right. I did say I'd consider going back to work in Newport if circumstances were different.

That's a great bunch of guys out there, and I miss working with them. But, I'm happy in Portland.

It's nice to know they'd have me back though. Working at The Boss wasn't all bad.

It turns out, station management is about the same everywhere. Cheryl, it seems, is just less "refined" in her approach than alot of slick big-market managers who have perfected the art of slyly stabbing you in the back while smiling in your face.

If Cheryl is unhappy, you know about it right away, and you know what needs to happen to remedy the situation.

There's definitely something to be said about that style of management too: At least its honest.

That sure is a different sentiment than the one that started this whole thread. Have you gone in for a lobotomy since your first post??

Nope, just alot of thinking.

...The old grass isn't always greener.

Still, this whole thread boils down to one MAJOR point. Management style! It doesn't take anymore effort to treat your employees fairly. A confrontational style makes for an unhappy workplace, and an unhappy workplace is not as productive as it can be. You hire the best people that you can find, then let them do their job. If, as a manager, you desire a job to be done a certain way, you state that up front and train them in that manner. Since radio is a creative endevour, you must allow a certain level of freedom to your employees to maximize the creative potential.

Trust the abilities of your employees to accomplish their duties.

Rather than write a book I'll stop here.

Happy Valentines Day!!!!!! For all the single radio persona in da house... CAN I GET A "CLINK"!?!?.... Oh yea... I SAID.... CAN I GET A "CLINK CLINK"!?!

"CLINK" MAH GIRL! "CLINK"!

Omega 3... Man.. your blog started this whole thing. You had the gonads to speak out about wrong doing, and look what a following you have aquired! Be strong mah man! Remember that you are special, and NO ONE deserves to be treated with a lack of respect, dignity, and just plain crazy management. Yes of course you will find crazy people wherever you go. But you just gotta keep trying until you find a place you can deal with. But man... dont back track. You have been there done that. and it wont get better....just worse. Time for greener pastures! You deserve it. Every poster on here is counting on you man. You cant leave us now! We have all been there and done that, and this blog has given us all a chance to come together and gain strength from each other. You cant take that away from us. Thats just wrong! RESIST THE DARK SIDE!!!! NOW "CLINK" ME!

Sammygirl:

It's nice to know this thread has been put to good use! It's been surprisingly comprehensive and always entertaining, if I do say so myself. Though, I sometimes wonder what The Ghost of Andy might say about all of this...

On a serious note, I definitely have respect for anybody that's EVER punched clock at Da' Boss and made it out alive.

Hugs all around!

And a big <CLINK><CLINK> to my brotha's and sistah's living on the beach this Valentines Day. Stay strong, Family! And just have fun!

BTW, I'll be in town for a few days next week if anybody wants to get together for drinks! Shirley's???

Don't call me Shirley.

Roger:

I saw that one coming!

--Just heard this morning that KCUP news dude Don Cohen suffered a major heart attack! Damn, Don! Get better soon!

Cheryl Harle seems to be bad for the heart.
1. Andy Harle died after having a heart attack while on the air
2. The book-keeper
3. Former morning man Larry Blair had heart surgery last year
4. And now Don Cohen

Talk about an unhealthy work environment!

Must be the food.

Congratulations to our winner Missing-kskd our 300th poster. The BOSS will be sending you dinner for two, tickets for four and a coupon for 10 percent off your next dry cleaning. Valid only to U.S. citizens and residents of Alabama on or before April 6th 1997, but not prior to March 20th 1996. Licensed drivers only. Must provide proof of insurance. Fingerprints and background check required. Prize winners who do not meet the eligibility requirements will forfeit their prize. Forfeited prizes become the property of the BOSS, their employees, or their sponsor. Please respond no later than 5 pm February 14th 2007. Void after this date.

Angie, there was another body on the control room floor. As the story goes from people who were actually at the old studios in Toledo, the all night jock died of a heart attack. When the morning crew arrived, they did all they could do, calling 911 and rendering cpr, but to no avail. The Ambulance would not take the body, since he was already dead. And the people from the Mortuary could not pick it up until later, so the morning crew was forced to do their show while stepping back and forth over the dead body. I would have loved to hear a tape of that show.

darn you missing-kskd
I thought my demon-dialer had me timed in perfectly to be poster 300 !

Hey, missing_kskd
are you a kskd alum? or a listener who really misses kskd?
KSKD was my favorite station in the early 80's.
yes, showing my age...but proud of it

Just some guy, who really appreciated the station.

KNRK largely fills the gap these days.

Wow... that amazes me how people seem to get sick and die around the Boss. I believe in all that bad spirit juju....Sounds like the station is haunted... and not in a Casper the "friendly" ghost way...

Eerie.... never thought of it that way. It be a voodoo curse or something....spoooooky...

Maybe it's that jar of Peter Pan Peanut Butter in the break room...

More likely the salt air...My cardiologist has me on a low-sodium diet...

(sorry...couldn't resist)

It's toxic alright, but it's not peanut butter, or sodium.

Hey gang...any chance of retiring this thread ?
It takes forever to load. Anyone for Thread # 2 ?

No

It sprouted from magic beans and grew thanks to having a good source of a whole lot of fertilizer. I agree, it ought to be nurtured and blossom. After all, this thread has become mythical.

Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell a broadcasting veteran,
Be he alive, or be he dead,
I'll grind his bones to make my bread.

We can't retire it..If we did the "Boss" would no longer be the "most talked about station".

I agree... the thread stays...

Doesnt take long for me to load... I stay the person who wants thread 2 must be a Boss FM SPY! Sent here to thwart us!!!! NAY I SAY!

Yay, Nay I say, too. I wouldn't trade this thread for a pile of beans. Too many "Jacks", I mean "Jocks" still need to be pulled from the tangled web of the widow.