Memory Lane

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Author: Chickenjuggler
Friday, March 06, 2009 - 10:31 pm
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It's interesting, to me, to see where our collective heads were at while browsing the archives for PDXRadio.

I was particularly amused by predictions and implications pre-primary before the Presidential election.

I don't want to taint anyone else's experience while scanning some of the posts - but there is a scorecard available, right in black and white, by looking at the older posts.

" Fred Thompson has more votes than all the others combined! "

At the very least, for the sake of posterity, take a look at some of the points made ( or attempts at points...COUGH! Nwokie...ahem ) in the archives.

Author: Skeptical
Friday, March 06, 2009 - 11:35 pm
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Lets post those scorecards!

I believe I predicted a Biden victory!

Author: Chickenjuggler
Friday, March 06, 2009 - 11:59 pm
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It wasn't even the actualy victories that made me hopeful at the time. It was the sincere sounding of wanting people who opposed Obama to do well.

But I guess it's just too much of an old habit to break. I mean, shit, they still can't even say what it is or would need to be seen to have some hope.

Stem Cells.

Gitmo.

Pulling out of Iraq.

What I am coming to realize is that I think many Republicans never really wanted change and wouldn't recognize it if they saw it. They still want Democracy in The Middle East. What if THEY don't? Doesn't mater.

It's sad.

Author: Andy_brown
Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 2:47 pm
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Republicans never really wanted change and wouldn't recognize it if they saw it.

Of course they didn't want change. Their entire mission to build up their own wealth and power is not served through needed change. That is why they have failed to retain majorities in federal and state congressional and senatorial elections. The party of avarice had touted their theories as a minority party ever since Kennedy was president. When they finally came to power under Reagan, they began the process of what has in essence destroyed the American economy. Kept in check to a point by the Democratic Congress until Newt's Contract on America accelerated the bungling and bumbling failure of conservative theory to actually do anything except line the pockets of the already wealthy through government corruption.
The Republicans have only one real theory, WAR. The industrial military complex that Ike warned the nation about is the only real benefactor of GOP led government. The GOP has no plan for success in a non military situation. Fact is, the depths of failure that we have seen on Wall Street is a direct reflection of how when given the wealth they garner through evil leadership (Nixon), manipulated leadership (Reagan), and downright dumb leadership (Bush), the GOP could not sustain said wealth because it was too dependent on the American working public to continue consuming goods and services when their jobs and incomes were outsourced to other nations so that profits could be maximized. They committed fiduciary suicide.

Author: Brianl
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:08 am
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"...the GOP could not sustain said wealth because it was too dependent on the American working public to continue consuming goods and services when their jobs and incomes were outsourced to other nations so that profits could be maximized. They committed fiduciary suicide."

IMHO, BOTH sides are guilty here. NAFTA and GATT and all of these free-trade agreements have done more to outsource blue-collar American jobs than just about anything else. Remember that NAFTA and GATT got the ball rolling during the George H.W. Bush administration, and it was accelerated under Clinton and exploded under Dubya. Always with broad bipartisan support.

Author: Missing_kskd
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:08 am
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Absolutely true.

It goes back to Reagan, and the supply siders of that time. Plenty (probably too many) people bought into that theory with horrible consequences.

I don't care which party fixes this, but it absolutely needs to be fixed. We cannot operate this nation in a sustainable way, with those ideas in play.


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