Author: Listenerpete
Monday, March 02, 2009 - 3:47 pm
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How pathetic! It's clear that the Drugster is the leader of the Republican Party - not Michael Steele. LINK
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Author: Chickenjuggler
Monday, March 02, 2009 - 4:10 pm
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I think it's time for Rush to run for office. Who knows? Maybe he'd do a great job. But this defacto self-appointment attitude, I believe, is going to bite him if all he does is challenge others with his ideas. I don't want him to put up or shut up. I want him to keep talking. He's not wrong on everything. But I want to see him make the changes he says he knows how to make... ...but he probably likes not having to do that.
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Author: Talpdx
Monday, March 02, 2009 - 4:36 pm
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It is pathetic. Rush is as relevant to the public discourse as Father Charles Coughlin was in the 1930’s. Too bad the GOP is too stupid to figure it out. Well, they blindly supported the presidency of Geroge W. Bush so maybe they are that stupid. Limbaugh gets his jollies serving as the grand old puppeteer to his legions of merry eunuchs. Really very sad that this party has fallen prey to victim to this blowhard.
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Author: Shyguy
Monday, March 02, 2009 - 4:38 pm
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He needs to put up or shut up. Hey maybe he'd be great. But I feel that all he wants is to cause problems for his own party and to a lessor extent this country. But yes I agree with CJ now is the time for him to do something anything other than talk the shit he talks.
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Author: Chickenjuggler
Monday, March 02, 2009 - 5:25 pm
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Others have stepped up and tried. Some won. Some lost. I would be curious to see an actual vote in a race.
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Author: Andrew2
Monday, March 02, 2009 - 5:26 pm
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In today's Republican propaganda email piece, Steele tells Republicans, "we’ve got to stop liberal Democrat comedian Al Franken from stealing Norm Coleman’s U.S. Senate seat in Minnesota." Memo to Steele: Coleman lost the election. The result was certified by the State of Minnesota. Coleman is suing as is his right under Minnesota law but never "won" anything except an initial count. Only Franken has officially won the election. Gawd, the Republicans are imploding faster than the DOW.
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Author: Listenerpete
Monday, March 02, 2009 - 5:47 pm
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CJ>> "I think it's time for Rush to run for office." When have you ever seen or heard about Rush debating anybody other than a caller on his show? He doesn't do it. Fact is, Rush doesn't know the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. See HERE
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Author: Vitalogy
Monday, March 02, 2009 - 5:56 pm
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I heard that Bill Maher is going to debate Ann Coulter over a series of 3 debates. I hope I get to see that! As for Rush, I think he should run. If he's got the answers, let's see how his ideas do when it comes to ballots. However, I'd prefer to see Rush continue the national debate as to his relevance. It's a debate that he stands to gain very little from, but lose a lot. Keep talking Rush!! Tell us how much you want the US to fail!!
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Author: Talpdx
Monday, March 02, 2009 - 5:58 pm
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After the debauchery of Watergate and the drubbing the GOP took in the '74 mid elections and the ’76 Presidential election, Reagan talked about tax cuts and the Panama Canal Treaty until he was blue in the face. Whether or not you agree with Reagan, he found a message and that ended up being central to his presidency. The GOP needs to find a leader who stands for something and issues that resonate. Limbaugh doesn't stand for anything -- except his hatred of the Democrats. If the GOP wants to find their way back into the good graces of the American body politic they had better find someone with some original ideas or it'll be 1984 all over again -- this time for the GOP.
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Author: Trixter
Monday, March 02, 2009 - 10:16 pm
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Steele is a wuss!
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Author: Roger
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 6:49 am
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NOW the whole RUSH thing might just be the case of CREATE A PROBLEM, (Limbaugh undermining the new admin) ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, ( have the opposition constantly bring up limbaugh, get the media onboard mentioning the contrasts) SOLVE THE PROBLEM ( by creating the impression that this viewpoint is harmful, and that limbaugh can't draw strong enough resources to change policy) Much like George Bailey being a thorn in Mr. Potters butt, Limbaugh is the same to the democrats. The answer is to remove the problem in anyway possible, or ignore the problem as unworthy of any effort. There is a concerted effort underway to discredit Limbaugh. and like the movie JAWS, he may need a bigger boat. They are beginning to treat Limbaugh like cancer, when he is actually no more than a pimple. I personally think the effort will be made to CRUSH him, leaving him to talk to his little group of like minded thinkers. I wish the other media would stop brining him up within the context of a Whitehouse or policy story. I believe EVERY national news outlet ABC, NBC, NPR, PBS, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, has incorporated Limbaughs position into their "reporting". Wouldn't that be like NBC Brian Williams, reporting CBS Katie Couric's thoughts on some piece? Don't give Rush the opportunity to tell his audience how badly the DRIVE BY MEDIA is treating him. You only provide him the opportunity to take sound bites out of context to prove his point. HE IS NOT THREAT. Like a board troll that feeds on attention, IGNORE HIM. He is a non issue-non factor. he sets no policy, he proposes no legislation, he ENTERTAINS AN AUDIENCE of similar minded people. Personally, I like the dissent. Problem is with the Limbaugh types, The other side IS NEVER RIGHT. and his views ARE NEVER WRONG. I have to say, even on thing I agree with, his elitism usually is enough to keep me from drinking the KOOL-AID. On the other hand Nancy P IS in a position to affect my life, and she scares me to the point where if she said that the grass was green, I would want that verified by sources on the other end of the spectrum before I followed that line of thought, and once I was forced to agree with her I would be waiting to see what it was going to cost me. RUSH=well paid radio entertainer who has no affect on my life. (other than the number of syndicated programs spreading across the dial created a large pool of displaced local talents) DEMOCRATS in Washington=Well paid govenment decision makers who DO have an affect on my life based on the decisions they make. REPUBLICANS in Washington=Well paid govenment employees who squandered their opportunity to affect my life based on the decisions they made. So the Much ado about nothing is EL BO RUSH wants Obama to Fail thinking that will re-energise the Reprobat party. What he doesn't bring up is the REPROBATES FAILED allowing the pendulum to swing the other way. So if the man with talent on loan from god gets his wish, THEN WHAT? Bring back the other failed group? Guess what If it fails, We'll all be in a world of hurt, and my bet is Preimere might not be able to cover that fat little contract in bankruptcy. Imagine RUSH having to eat store bought steaks rather than mail order steaks..... Personally, I think when we turn around, the Dem agenda is going to find it's way into EVERYBODY's pocket. No place for the coming tax hikes on energy now, but it will be here and there won't be any saving switching to the proposed "ALTERNATIVES". My hope is a rising market will allow the bailout debt to be retired without tax payer help, and the administration realizes the importance of cheap reliable energy resources as a key to sustained growth and a resurgence of domestic manufacturing is the source of livable wages. I don't care who is in power as long as my life improves. (another question) Why are we going to give hundreds of millions to REBUILD GAZA? So they can destroy it again at a later time? Hillary, tell the whloe fricking region solve your problems or you get NOTHING from us. We can't be EVERYONE'S FRIEND! Tell them, "Get your act together, then we'll talk!" We've been seriously trying to help them solve their problems ever since we had Sadat, Begin and Arafat flying in to shake hands for the cameras at various time. 30+ years of lip service, photo ops, and glorious failures.... PLAY HARDBALL. NO Cash, NO War toys, no nothing till they get their shit together and play nice.
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Author: Missing_kskd
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 7:44 am
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Steele got schooled! LOL!!! Rush Limbaugh is nothing more than an entertainer. Not so funny any more though, is he? That powerful force he commands consists of the 23 percenters and morons. Here's the ugly bit that Steele just got schooled on: The 23 percenters*, plus morons = majority Republican base! Rush knows it. As I've written before, the 23 percenters* are an easy sell. IF you validate their shitty issues, they pay that back with unparalleled loyalty. It's that simple. Hearing their position on things aired is worth more than gold, because otherwise the social pressure to go get after some serious self help would be painful. I know that's ugly, but it's very true. (and I'm always game to hear why it isn't) Because of this, Rush Limbaugh can go the distance on ANYTHING. He can do it as long as ne wants to do it, gets paid to do it, and the industry that pays him to do it, needs him to do it, because they've got other problems. That's a no-win scenario, if you are a Republican. Why? Because the rest of the people, that would normally consider identifying with the party, despite these ugly things, are not gonna do that right now. It ended up being too expensive. Obama knows this, which is why you hear him just hammering on the economy and various social reforms that are common to nearly everyone. Obama also knows he has to lose less than Rush does to be in a vulnerable position. Rush gets to lie, distort, feed hate, and just double down on ugly things, knowing his 23 percenters will never, ever leave. Obama could see people leave, if he does any of those things, meaning he's got the high ground only with clarity, truth and listening to the people and acting on that. And that's what he's doing. He won the election on that, and deviating from it will just lose the next one. So those two are gonna lock horns and just go at it. Nothing to be done, but move forward and keep delivering those things that people need done. I have some respect for Steele for attempting to actually be rational and tell it like it is. Rush is an entertainer, his speech is ugly, inflammatory and all those other things most people have little regard for. That's 100 percent true! But, with Obama taking the position he is, Steele has no base from which to draw support! He knows that now. Got schooled. Will be interesting to see what he does, now that he has been shown the position he really is in. I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Limbaugh is a serious problem. He's egging on the worst of us, he knows it, they know it, and the industry who feeds all of it knows it. The cost is a distortion in our national politics that will limit getting things done, and it hobbles an entire party from actually competing and that impacts the check and balance system we are supposed to have; thus, giving people who have a lot of serious (and border line criminal) issues, a much louder voice than they would otherwise have. Every Republican who isn't one of these 23 percenters should be pissed royal right now. Their choice is to either embrace hate, bigotry, racism and other ugly things as the social cost for seeing their national policy positions aired, or become independents and surrender a lot of their voice, just because feeding those asses is very profitable. Steele got schooled on that too. Good luck to him. He really is between a rock and a hard place. *23 percenters are issue voters basically. Racists, bigots, theocrats, a lot of pro-lifers, and others with some "nothing else matters" axe to grind.
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Author: Listenerpete
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 7:54 am
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Roger>> "I personally think the effort will be made to CRUSH him, leaving him to talk to his little group of like minded thinkers. I wish the other media would stop brining him up within the context of a Whitehouse or policy story. I believe EVERY national news outlet ABC, NBC, NPR, PBS, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, has incorporated Limbaughs position into their "reporting". Wouldn't that be like NBC Brian Williams, reporting CBS Katie Couric's thoughts on some piece? Don't give Rush the opportunity to tell his audience how badly the DRIVE BY MEDIA is treating him." You don't seem to get it Roger, the DRIVE BY MEDIA treats Rush EXACTLY the way he wants to be treated by them. THEY PROMOTE HIS RADIO PROGRAM!!! But this thread is aimed at Steele not Limbaugh. Trixter get it right: Steele is a wuss!
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Author: Missing_kskd
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 7:58 am
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Maybe! Let's say that Steele didn't back down. He just commits and goes for it. What happens? The Limbaugh audience goes nowhere, he gets minority party support, and is left to recruit indies and dems. LOL!! He's cooked right now on that. The guy might just be a realist, choosing to consider his options for a while instead of just buying into the Limbaugh BS, and being marginalized for it.
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Author: Roger
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 8:16 am
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I get it. Unfortunate the media feeds him. He is a non issue They have no need to quote him any more than they need to quote me if I disagree.
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Author: Amus
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 10:51 am
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Still, It says a whole lot that the current standard bearer for the Conservative movement is a drug addict. Did you see him hopping around during his speech at CPAC? He sure appeared to be as high as a kite.
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Author: Larbear
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 11:09 am
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"Balls of Steele"? I think not. No wonder the party is so F.U.
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Author: Chickenjuggler
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 11:25 am
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Part of the problem is that Steele himself is very much like Limbaugh; I have heard him say things and thought " You are just saying that to get a reaction. It has no basis in fact whatsoever." Steele / Limbaugh in 2012 - We're gonna just keep lying to you.
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Author: Trixter
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 11:43 am
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The Republican party looks like the Dems did in 2000 and 2004. A complete cluster F!
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Author: Vitalogy
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 11:46 am
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"Did you see him hopping around during his speech at CPAC?" I was impressed that the fatso was able to move at all.
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Author: Skybill
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 11:47 am
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I was impressed that the fatso was able to move at all. Hey now! I resemble that remark!
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Author: Trixter
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 11:55 am
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Wonder how many Oxy he was on??
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Author: Amus
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 3:40 pm
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Limbaugh demonstrates that he does indeed have cojones. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/3/3/8346/56234/779/704012
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Author: Mc74
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 8:41 pm
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Obama winning the election was the best thing that could of happened to Rush. He has all you talking about him again.
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Author: Chickenjuggler
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 9:12 pm
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Yeah. We never talked about Rush before the election. But since we are, what is it that you are implying Mc - We talk about him therefore he has valid points? Therefore we must secretly agree with him? Big deal if we talk about him. So what? I've noticed that this is a tactic of those who generally support blowhards. Republicans do this to a greater degree than I notice Democrats doing it. I never hear a Democrat say " Oh well you're talking about him. You must...( insert thin thread of connectivity here that never holds up to any scrutiny )." It's an odd habit. I think it should be broken.
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Author: Missing_kskd
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 9:58 pm
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LOL!!! He's an entertainer right, RIGHT? Next.
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