Author: Skybill Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 12:09 pm |
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Interesting. From today's "Broadcast Engineering RF Update" email I received. |
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Author: Scott_young Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 10:17 pm |
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Wow, look how the high band V's who will run their DTV on their VHF channel after the analog shutoff drop power (and their electric bill) while gaining coverage. The low band V's who run their DTV on UHF increase their power by a factor of 10 while losing coverage. |
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Author: Skybill Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 10:27 pm |
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And obviously the map contours don't take terrain in to account. |
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Author: Missing_kskd Friday, January 02, 2009 - 12:58 am |
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Yeah, anybody on the lower 6 isn't going to realize the bennies of DTV as well as the higher ones do. |
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Author: Alfredo_t Friday, January 02, 2009 - 1:32 am |
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It almost seems too good to be true that some of these very spectacular coverage areas could be obtained at relatively low power levels. After checking a few markets' reports, I noted that the majority of stations are trying to duplicate the coverage area of the analog signal. However, if you go to the Montgomery, AL market and look up WSFA, you will be in for something wacky! WSFA is planning to stay on VHF Channel 12, but they intend to reduce power to 1.16 kW! They will lose coverage as a result, and some of the areas lost are not served by other NBC affiliates. |
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Author: Jr_tech Friday, January 02, 2009 - 9:52 am |
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It would have been nice if the FCC would have used Longley-Rice coverage maps (which do a better job of accounting for terrain) for this study. The maps that they presented are fairly poor indicators of coverage in hilly areas. |
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Author: Andy_brown Friday, January 02, 2009 - 12:35 pm |
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At any given frequency it takes less power to get the same coverage with digital. It's not the field intensity, mind you, it's the ability to achieve the desired S/N at the front end of the receiver (full quieting). The analog curve is gradual as the S/N slowly falls. In digital, you reach a steeper knee and it's gone. |
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Author: Jr_tech Friday, January 02, 2009 - 2:42 pm |
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"Longley/Rice can be overly generous" |
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Author: Andy_brown Friday, January 02, 2009 - 5:01 pm |
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Look at the FCC contour, then the L/R, then examine the terrain in between the two, then make your best guess. |
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Author: Qpatrickedwards Friday, January 02, 2009 - 7:08 pm |
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Just on a lark, I bought one of the RCA converter boxes last summer. Since I live behind two ranges of hills 60 miles SW of Portland, I was expecting nothing in the area of DTV, except what I could get from OPB in Corvallis. |
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Author: Broadway Friday, January 02, 2009 - 9:01 pm |
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Still can't get 49 on my DTV (no signal) but strong enough RF to get it on my converter box...what gives? On same antenna via splitter! |
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Author: Andy_brown Friday, January 02, 2009 - 9:57 pm |
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How about antenna no splitter direct to DTV. Does it work then? |
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Author: Jr_tech Friday, January 02, 2009 - 10:06 pm |
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A few possibilities: |
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Author: Broadway Friday, January 02, 2009 - 11:11 pm |
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My DTV coax is 4ft off splitter, converter box to bedroom is around 35ft. My only assessment is that my DTV has less sensitivity than the box. |
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Author: Jr_tech Friday, January 02, 2009 - 11:34 pm |
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I don't know about 30 (digital physical channel for 12) signal strength here in Hillsboro is the same as it usually is (high 90s out of 100), but digital 48 (49) is running only in the 60's tonight,and has been as low as the 50's a few days ago... (mid 80's to mid 90's are the norm here for it). |
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Author: Motozak2 Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 1:40 pm |
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48's been in the mid-30s here for about a week now! I can't even watch South Park or Frasier without ha ing t br k p on me ev y oth r sec d ... . .... .. ;o) |
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