Who will flip first in 2009

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Author: Radiohustla
Monday, November 24, 2008 - 8:04 pm
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what radio station will flip formats first in 2009?

Author: Craig_adams
Monday, November 24, 2008 - 8:09 pm
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I've got a question. What radio station will go DARK first in 2009?

Author: Radioxpert
Monday, November 24, 2008 - 8:32 pm
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1480 KBMS?

Author: Alfredo_t
Monday, November 24, 2008 - 9:24 pm
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710 KIRO will go all-sports.

Author: Craig_adams
Monday, November 24, 2008 - 9:44 pm
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WOW! You're sure putting yourself out on a limb on that one.

I'm thinking that we will see a number of small stations across the Country go silent January 1st.

Author: Semoochie
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 2:16 am
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I don't think we'll see format changes at anywhere near the clip we've seen in the past until there are some big changes in the economy! There may be some new simulcasts, though.

Author: Alfredo_t
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 9:58 am
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> WOW! You're sure putting yourself out on a limb on that one.


Tee-hee! I felt like taking a safe bet last night. What is special about January 1 of next year that will prompt radio stations to go dark?

Author: Shyguy
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 10:06 am
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Keizer's KYKN will be the first local signal to go dark. After that Salem's CCTV(public access) station will acquire the KYKN license for a Salem public access radio station.

Thoughts Salem people?

Author: Waynes_world
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 11:42 am
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1080 will change to something else, hopefully oldies. and KEX (or KPOJ) would get the Mariners.

Author: Motozak2
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 12:37 pm
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Assuming there is a God of some type, KXJM will flip to its ----- hip hop format to something a bit more sensible, like oldies....or Smooth Jazz..........

Author: Trixter
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 3:32 pm
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1080 will flip to Conservative talk

Author: Broadway
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:11 pm
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>>Salem public access radio station.

Hope the Frith family will get a good retirement buyout from the City of Salem!
(don't think so)
From what Dodger is reporting things are well there...Merry Christmas.

Author: Alfredo_t
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:45 pm
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So, the acquisition of KYKN by Salem's public access TV facility is confirmed and not just a rumor? If this does go through, things could get interesting. It is too bad that Portland's PCM couldn't buy out KBMS, KOOR, or KXMG.

Author: Craig_adams
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 9:13 pm
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"What is special about January 1 of next year that will prompt radio stations to go dark?"

Like most businesses, the Holiday Season is the last ditch effort to put a happy face on a down year. For many businesses this holiday season won't cover it. On top of that, you're looking at January, advertising's leanest time. Ad rates drop. That's when you see TV ads for things like the Ginsu knives. With that outlook and no light at the end of the tunnel, I think some owners will decide rather than bleed more.....just turn it off.

Author: Alfredo_t
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 9:39 pm
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I'll be watching and listening on New Year's Day to see what develops. I suspect that 2009 could be a pretty tough year, but I wasn't expecting things to crash that quickly. It would really suck to be told "We're sorry, but you're out of a job. Oh, Happy New Year!"

Author: Craig_adams
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 9:57 pm
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These will probably be smaller AM stations, possibly independently owned. There are so many stations today. Remember in the late 1980's, early 90's, we lost for a time, stations on 1010, 1230, 1260, 1290, 1410, 1480, 1550.

Author: Semoochie
Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 12:00 am
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The only stations I remember going dark were KISN(of course), KQIV and KLVS, right after the Elvis format. Farther south, KSLM was off for quite a while.

Author: Craig_adams
Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 12:15 am
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KISN, KQIV & KSLM weren't in the same time period. KISN & KQIV were in the 1970's. KSLM was in the mid to late 90's.

Author: Nitefly
Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 1:52 pm
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It's hard to imagine that KPAM and KTRO will still be doing conservative talk a year from now. Even in good economic times, it's clear there just isn't room for more than two stations to run this format profitably in the Portland market -- and the talk radio audience will probably shrink further in '09, with no big election coming up.

Author: Qpatrickedwards
Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 6:24 pm
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I believe that 880 KWIP was also off for a while in the late 80's'(very early 90's?) 1260 KCYX was dark in the early 90's for a few months before its transformation to KLYC.

Author: Craig_adams
Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 7:23 pm
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Bottom line on these stations that were off the air for a period of time, the economy didn't look as bad as currently. However it might be worse in the East. We might hear about small Eastern AM stations buckle before we see anything locally.

Author: Waynes_world
Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 8:29 pm
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If I remember KAAR went silent on the day KKSN 910 started playing oldies. I tried to listen to 1480 one day and didn't get anything. It would have been around august of 87.

Author: Craig_adams
Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 9:11 pm
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Wayne: You're pretty close. KAAR went dark on August 11, 1987 and KKSN switched to Oldies on August 1st.

Author: E_dawg
Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 9:14 pm
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How about 95.5 THE GAME?

Will they be the first station in 2009 to change their format?

Author: Trixter
Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 11:08 pm
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How about 95.5 THE GAME?

Will they be the first station in 2009 to change their format?


From what I've heard....

Not a chance....

But look for DUHFan to flip to Conservative talk by May 2009.....

Author: Radoh
Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 8:15 am
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The people that think the fan will flip any time in the near...or distant future are completely clueless.

When the game tried to steal their ESPN affiliation, the CEO of Entercom stepped in to prevent that from happening, signing a LONG deal with ESPN to ensure that 1080 wouldn't be going anywhere.

Regardless of whether or not you prefer the game or the fan, it is laughable to think that 1080 will flip. Neither station has a particularly strong lineup...especially locally. They each have their advantages and disadvantages. The game's local morning show gives the listener a chance to listen to LOCAL sports talk, but negates that advantage by targeting 16-25 year old white kids with an identity and/or race crisis, and alienates just about everyone else. Meanwhile the Fan's only local show....period....fails to talk about anything remotely relevant to...well anyone.

Neither station takes advantage of the opportunities they have to lock in a solid audience, but then again, you get what you pay for.

Neither station will flip anytime soon.

Author: Destinyoverrun
Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 8:49 am
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i dont think the Fan will flip anytime soon, but i could see them limiting their local content to JUST 20/20 updates, and ditching the local talk show. It seems like the ESPN content is what people want to hear on that station more than the local jokes....and its much less expensive.

Author: E_dawg
Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 5:50 pm
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How about KOOL 105.9? Great Music, but ratings isn't that good.

Author: Trixter
Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 8:05 pm
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The game's local morning show gives the listener a chance to listen to LOCAL sports talk, but negates that advantage by targeting 16-25 year old white kids with an identity and/or race crisis, and alienates just about everyone else. Meanwhile the Fan's only local show....period....fails to talk about anything remotely relevant to...well anyone.


VERY well said.....

Author: Semoochie
Friday, December 05, 2008 - 12:47 am
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Kool's 12+ ratings just went up a full point! If they were going to change, it would be while hanging out in the sub-basement for a year. They could still change because the music just keeps getting older and older but at this point, I think they'll wait to see how they do in the PPM universe. If a Real Oldies station can top the ratings in Chicago, a Classic Hits station should be just fine.

Author: Trixter
Friday, December 05, 2008 - 4:32 pm
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I think EVERYONE should just flip to Spanish now!

Author: E_dawg
Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 5:57 pm
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Do you think KOOL 105.9 is Oldies or Classic Hits Format?

Author: Semoochie
Monday, December 08, 2008 - 12:25 am
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Classic Hits used to be the name for a rock based, older hit format, somewhat softer than Classic Rock, with more appeal to women. When the meaning of "Oldies" became unfamiliar and negative to viable demographics, the "powers that be" settled on kidnapping the Classic Hits name for what is basically an updated Oldies format, starting in the mid-60s. A good case could be made for Kool being called an Oldies station because they are 60s intensive and don't spend much time in the late or even mid-70s. I would say that K-Hits meets the new definition of "Classic Hits" because they are not shy about playing something from the mid or late 70s and even have an occasional 80s song. Of course, if you go back to the mid-80s, KSGO was an Oldies station that would sometimes drop in a brand new song, calling it "future gold"!

Author: Alfredo_t
Monday, December 15, 2008 - 12:01 pm
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> How about KOOL 105.9? Great Music, but ratings isn't that good.

I'm betting that KQOL will flip even before KIRO goes all-sports. Perhaps, I will get my "wish" of an 80s and Disco station.

Author: Alfredo_t
Friday, December 26, 2008 - 2:35 am
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I think that the Scott Shannon "True Oldies Channel" is going to end up on one of CBS's Portland stations by July of 2009. I can see this happening as a corporate level edict to cut costs. It will be a bloodbath.

Author: Motozak2
Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 1:49 pm
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Okay. I know for absolutely certain who will flip first in 2009.

ME.

I was supposed to have the entire time from Thanksgiving to the week after New Year's off for vacation time. And then I got called on that stupid trip to Honolulu last week!! (Which, as it turns out, I really didn't even need to go on that trip to begin with: I found out earlier this week that one of my co-workers simply wanted a "spiritual tag-along", whatever the hell s/he meant by that.)

If you see any news reports about a young dude going bananas at a certain tech firm near Camas, you'll know who/what it was............!!! ;o)

Author: Tdanner
Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 4:10 pm
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I don't think CBS will have Portland stations by July of 2009!

Author: 1lossir
Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 5:10 pm
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>>And then I got called on that stupid trip to Honolulu last week!!<<

At least you were there when the power was still on. Had you gone this week the (pretty much) island-wide outage would have probably put you over the edge! :-)

Author: Jimbo
Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 5:25 pm
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To me, it would not matter if I had to go or not. If someone was sending me to Honolulu, I would ask what time does the flight leave.
I don't need a valid reason to go there......just send me there.

Buffalo, New York?? Now that's different. Find someone else to go.

Author: Waynes_world
Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 11:16 pm
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1080 to KGW's oldies format.

Author: Beano
Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 2:45 pm
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Trixter said "I think EVERYONE should just flip to Spanish now!"


A little obsessive about the Spanish format, are we Trix??

Author: Outsider
Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 3:13 pm
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....Author: Craig_adams
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 9:57 pm


Remember in the late 1980's, early 90's, we lost for a time....1260....

There's still nothing on 1260.

And remember when 1480 was off the air, there were spots throughout Vancouver where KLOG (1490) came in okay and it would usually stay listenable along I-5 as far South as the Clark County Fairgrounds.

Author: Trixter
Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 4:03 pm
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A little obsessive about the Spanish format, are we Trix??

NOPE! Everyone else is... If you paid attention to this board you would have known that when there is going to be a change in format EVERYONE jumps on the Spanish bandwagon. That's why I said that......

Author: Waynes_world
Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 5:39 pm
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Count me out. We have way too much Spanish already on AM. Plus one on FM. I don't speak Spanish very well.

Author: Tomparker
Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 6:10 pm
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Judging from some of the postings made on this board we may have to get rid of English as well.

Author: Outsider
Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 7:25 pm
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Now Tom, talking like that will make Djfreeeeeesh/Radiohustla feel bad.

So, please, more posts like yours!

Author: Alfredo_t
Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 8:27 pm
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In other cities, there are (or have been) pirate radio stations that cater to minority ethnic populations, such as creole. For the sake of linguistic diversity, I think that Frresh and his friends should start a station programmed in the Frresh dialect. An all-Esperanto station might be nice, too.

Author: Don_from_salem
Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 9:43 pm
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Speaking of Spanish on FM, whatever happened to 95.1? They still have their sign for KSND on the outside of the old Frederick & Nelson store in downtown Salem. But all I got on my car radio was dead air on that frequency.

Author: Skeptical
Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 11:46 pm
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. . . a station programmed in the Frresh dialect.

Hey, that isn't a bad idea for a down and out station. Not kidding, really.

Author: Broadway
Monday, December 29, 2008 - 9:15 am
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>>whatever happened to 95.1

must be off due to weather related outages...still off as of this morning. Know their STL system was quite elaborate so no power at any one site would cause this.

Author: 62kgw
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 8:54 am
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620 shall become all-Elvis KLVS on jan1st!!!!

Author: Motozak2
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 7:23 pm
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That one's already been done.

Author: Trixter
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 6:54 pm
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620 shall become all-Elvis KLVS on jan1st!!!!

And KPAM,KXL and KTRO will ALL simulcast KPOJ as of........ RIGHT NOW!

Author: Waynes_world
Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 10:27 pm
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Thats been tried and it lasted one month. Put oldies on 1080.

Author: Newflyer
Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 11:12 pm
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I've heard some different imagers on Kool, before it started running the public affairs show now in the 11 PM hour.
Besides, if you write tomorrow's date in a particular fashion, tomorrow is 1-05-9.
It also sounds like Loveline is running on 94.7 as I type this.
I have no inside info, just baseless speculation (as I always do!), and a crazy guess.

Author: Alfredo_t
Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 1:30 am
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710 KIRO is supposed to debut its sports format sometime next month. Two weeks ago, I drove into Washington and had the chance to hear the FM side of KIRO. Guess what? It's mono! To be more specific, there is no stereo pilot tone on the analog part of the broadcast. I was not able to check the HD.

Author: Semoochie
Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:33 am
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That would certainly improve coverage and in the hills of Seattle, you need all the help you can get. On the other hand, they may have just been having technical difficulty.

Author: Countrybob
Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 11:07 am
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CBS Radio just purchased the domain Amp987.com on 3/11/09.
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/amp987.com
Anyone know if CBS owns any other FMs on 98.7 other than Portland?

Author: Powerslacker
Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 11:11 am
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CBS has Smooth Jazz on 98.7 in Detroit:
http://www.wvmv.com/

CBS has a 60s/70s station on 98.7 in Dallas:
http://www.kluv.com/pages/2288273.php


Those seem like better flip candidates than KUPL to me.

Author: Countrybob
Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 11:34 am
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That's my thinking too.

Author: Korkfmadio
Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 1:03 pm
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Detroit will be the one that flips. I'll almost put money on it.

Author: Semoochie
Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 7:45 pm
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There's one in Los Angeles but they already have an Amp.

Author: Radioxpert
Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 12:25 am
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According to the rumors, Detroit's 98.7 could be flipping to CHR.

Author: Alfredo_t
Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 8:21 pm
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OK--KIRO AM is doing some really obnoxious stunting right now. They are playing non-stop promos stating that the talk shows are now on FM and the sports programming begins on Monday. What a waste of 50,000 watts! I could understand if they were to do something like this the day before the switch. Are they going to keep this up throughout Friday, Saturday, and Sunday???

Author: E_dawg
Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 9:10 pm
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Should the ownership page and the AM/FM Dial page should be updated?


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