Will everyone be fired?

no jocks....where is everyone?? Not that there was a bunch of jocking going on anyway...but where's Tim, Michael, Stacy, Crystal...I liked Rock Hit's...I like the previous too...but now another format in less than 7 months....what's up insiders??????

from allaccess.com:

MOViN Moves In To Portland

CBS RADIO '80s Oldies KVMX/PORTLAND flipped this morning to "THE NEW MOViN 107.5." The switch follows similar MOViN moves by CBS in DALLAS and SAN FRANCISCO.

KUFO & KVMX OM DAVE NUMME, who'd also been programming KVMX, will oversee the launch while he searches for a new PD. "THE BOB RIVERS SHOW" will no longer air on KVMX (although it will continue on its flagship of KZOK/SEATTLE). Midday host TIM TAYLOR has exited, and APD/afternoon driver STACEY LYNN is currently on maternity leave and will return to the station at the first of the year.

"The time has come for Portland to get MOViN," said KVMX VP/GM MARK WALEN. "I'm confident listeners will be quick to embrace this new format, which has a unique flavor combining some of the biggest hits from the last two decades with the most popular songs of today."

Applications are now being accepted for the 107.5 preset on my car radio.

Sampled it for about 15 minutes. Nothing there for me. Of course I'm not in their demo which I think is something like 18-25 females without a life.

"'The time has come for Portland to get MOViN,' said KVMX VP/GM MARK WALEN. Yep, bowel MOViN.

Why is it that only jocks pay the price when a format changes? A loser like Dave Numme gets to run 3 formats into the ground starting with the Beat and there are no consequences? When do(in the words of Marconi) Mark Falen and Dave Dumme get the boot?

Stacey Lynn won't be back. She'll be doing afternoons at Charlie in no time.

MOViN' 107.5 --the gift the keeps on giving!

Radioxpert got this one right!

He guessed it several weeks ago...

"MOViN" because they're *MOViN* on down!

dave numme blows...........oh, that reminds me:

the "republicans for N.A.M.B.L.A. workshop and bunk-bed sleepover has been postponed until further notice.

Nambla ---love it!

One of TDS best bits ever. You can use this on anybody and it works just like they say it does.

(Unless they are fans of the show of course.)

I'll be back in town this weekend. Curious to see if the kids have picked up on MOViN' yet.

N.A.M.B.L.A., otherwise known as Congress.

Radio as we know it is dying before our eyes, my friends. At the same time younger listeners are abandoning radio in favor of IPods and the Internet, programmers are pandering to twentysomethings in a desperate attempt to stay relevant and financially solvent. This is, in turn, forcing disenfranchised older listeners to go elsewhere. Many, like me, have switched to satellite.

I predict that young people won't give a damn about terrestrial radio no matter what's playing. Old 41-year-old folks like me will also continue to go elsewhere. Analog radio is about to become a technological relic.

Don't look to IBOC HD radio to save the day for it is the AM stereo of the '00's. There are already much higher quality streams online. Once those streams become available via affordable mobile ISP's, IBOC will become as obsolete as analog broadcasting. In less than a decade, the NAB will be hawking "GE Superadio" HD receivers for $50 a pop at its convention in the john at the El Cortez in downtown Vegas! Those who are busy rearranging deck chairs would be well advised to start looking for icebergs.

Let the flames begin!

I've been sampling this new Movin' 107-5. It sounds like I would expect a dance format to sound. One thing I find curious is that I'm hearing some of the newer hip-hop dance being played, despite comments elsewhere on this board that stated that the Movin' format stayed away from this type of music in order to tilt its appeal toward Gen-X women.

I'm not too upset at this format, but the one thing that I see about it as being "sinful" is that it sounds like it was created to be Charlie's little sister. In other words, here is another automated format that was created in order to allow CBS to save money by laying off air personalities. It is yet another flavor of background music.

I do not have satellite radio, so I will ask of its subscribers, is the programming on the music channels produced in a way that is that different than Charlie FM or Movin' 107-5? That is, are the satellite stations also low-budget automated productions that feature liners between the songs, or do they actually spend money to hire fulltime air talent and to produce special programs and features?

i agree with lee...the future of radio is not sattelite (though i enjoy it), nor is it HD (which won't ever catch Sat radio in my opinion), its internet radio....once you can get reliable service inside a car of internet streams...watch out..it could be all over for everyone...

Maybe, I'm missing something but it seems to me that it would be easier to reach more 25-44 women by playing NO hip-hop! It would be easier to offend those who don't like it than those who do.

FYI...

The strategic plan for MOViN stations includes jocks in the future.

And the station is not designed for "twenty somethings" or the "18-25" crowd. It IS however targetted at 25-44 year old females who grew up listening to Rhythmic music. The core is W28-40 and has proven to work well in Seattle.

Forgive me, but I am so tired of hearing people complain about "corporate radio" being cookie cutter and not creative. Here we have a complete new format that is showing good results and there are still complaints. Some people should just admit they won't like any new radio IF it comes from CBS, Clear Channel, Entercom, Citadel, Cumulus, or any other larger company or consultant.

I've been expecting this format flip for several months. Finally, CBS Radio did the right thing and got "Movin" on 107-5!

Hopefully, Tim Taylor will land at another Portland station, soon.

Amen, Dexter!

I flipped over from my iPod to check out 107.5 on my drive home today, Bust a Move by Young MC was on, and I flipped back to my iPod. No thanks "Movin".

"The strategic plan for MOViN stations includes jocks in the future." Isn't that just a bit like a cookie cutter plan?

You know, the kind of plan that is the same, or very similar, for a large number of stations?

As best as I can tell, Xpert called it on May 1st.

I'm far from being a "Movin'" P1 and I haven't cared much for Rhythmic CHR since the end of the 80s, yet for some reason I find the "Movin'" format more tolerable than I would have expected.

I sample a number of sources for my music entertainment these days ... There are so many quality options ... BPM on XM Satellite Radio, VH1 Country, FUSE on Comcast OnDemand, WinAmp Internet Radio, Sprint Mobile Radio, my iPod and of course my local options on my FM dial right here in Portland. I was in the car this morning and heard the format flip. A friend of mine (non media) LOVED the MIX. (he is stuck in the 80's) and keeps his dial on 107.5. Oddly enough, he is such a passive listener that he didn't notice the Rock Hits smoke screen. He definitely noticed the change today. From previous posts I'm told that I'm not in their demo ... every song I heard was a memorable hit. As cheese ball as it sounds, it was fun listening. Ricky Martin to Madonna to BlackStreet to Mark Morrison. The only annoying part is the female voice over identifies herself in a liner as "Taesha" ... now, is that supposed to be ethnic or something?! An all-American sounding woman, doubtful that she'd have a ghetto fabulous name.

Yep. The "Bratz" demo...

My apologies for a double posting ... accessing the site from my phone and it only lets you ramble for so many characters ... Long story short, I like the launch of the station so far. If the goal was to build a "fun" sounding station, I think they are on the money. For me, I like it so much more than K-hits or Charlie. That's my 2 cents. Oh, did I mention that it's annoying for the imaging talent to identify themselves by name as if we are becoming friends? "Taesha?!" WTF?!

With "Mix" out of the way, we can expect 106.7 to evolve into a true Classic Hits format, as time rolls on.

Why would they want to take a viable format and throw it away for one that isn't? Hopefully, the only thing that evolves will be the period of hits.

used to be you would have everything in place, hype the heck out of it, ready a big contest...

THEN launch the new format.

Now, you quietly switch formats, then add a staff as an afterthought. Seems like you would want your airstaff in place to greet the listener as they found you.........

Oh, I keep forgetting, talent is a profit sucking expense, rather than an important part of a stations presentation.

Remember women don't always say what they mean. They may have told consultants they want this kind of music but..............

they say they want men with a sense of humor too, but they really want a hunky guy with money!

Rawhide

Eighties not a bad place to be stuck. Tons of great music from that era. To bad 107.5 did not do it justice. To many holes in their play lists and lack of interest from management. Not to mention that "Rivers" clown tanking the morning show. At least one good thing came from the flip...well maybe two if I hear things right.
1.) They sent Rivers packing back to Seattle and 2.) They are looking for a new PD.

Probably would not have mattered if the ratings were better as it sounds like similiar formats nationwide all flipped.

L8R HAGO

OK Roger - after enjoying most of your previous posts on this board, I gotta take issue with you on this one...

It's not just women who don't always say what they mean - people as a rule, when being questioned, want to appear hipper, smarter (and as Kinsey found) more or less sexually experienced than they actually may be.

But, when I tell you I'd rather have a man with a great sense of humor over a hunky guy with money, I mean it - and I sleep next to living proof...

And Dexter - you are absolutely correct!

I'm allowed a bad one once in a while....

yes people in general are not what they seem.

you said...
But, when I tell you I'd rather have a man with a great sense of humor over a hunky guy with money, I mean it -

so did my wife!

Though a few bucks every once in awhile might be nice.

Actually I am perfect to work this format.

Women have told me......

I like you as a friend......
You make me laugh, so we can still be friends, right?.....
I think of you as my brother.....
You're ok in a group, but alone you are kind of creepy.....
This is my boyfriend.....

Have a good weekend.

How do stations gain a loyal audience when the format is always changing?? I find these flavor of the month stations pathetic. In 3 more months there will be a new flavor of the month and stations will start flipping format again. YOU CAN"T get a loyal audience when the station is always changing formats.
I wish Movin the best of luck, but they better have a huge budget because they are going up againt 2 powerhouses Z100 and Jammin. If they put the minimum effort into the station like they did with "rock hits" the station will be toast.

Smoochie says:
"Maybe, I'm missing something but it seems to me that it would be easier to reach more 25-44 women by playing NO hip-hop! It would be easier to offend those who don't like it than those who do."

Ummm. Smoochie not everyone listening to Movin is old and crusty like YOU are. If you think 20 and 30 year old women don't like hip hop than you need a lobotomy.

I'm not debating that 20 and 30 year old women like hip hop. What I am saying is that I don't think the bulk of 25-44 year old women want to hear it on a station that's designed for them. If they did, they would probably be perfectly happy continuing to listen to CHR/Pop or CHR/Rhythmic. Also, the people who created the Movin' concept originally said that it was for people who grew up on CHR/Rhythmic, weren't really into hip-hop and were bored by traditional Hot AC. I thought my previous post was fairly generic and am surprised anyone would be offended by it! I apologize.

When I suggested that 106.7 could evolve into a true Classic Hits station, I was thinking along the lines of SLC's 103.5 KRSP, which has enjoyed years of success.

Semoochie...I got what you were talkin' about.

In the research I've seen there IS a large amount of positive passion for what I call "soft hip hop" music with 30-something females. I'm looking at Movin's mediabase report and see these examples...

Rihanna - SOS
Beyonce - Check On It
Outkast - Hey Ya
Usher - Yeah

The more aggressive "gangster" rap that KXJM plays a ton of, and KKRZ plays a good amount of does NOT score highly with Movin's target.

At least that has been my experience...I could be wrong.

Oh...and these songs all have a distinct "hook" to them. Many of the more hardcore rap and R&B music doesn't have that.

107.5...All Hard Drive pre-recorded...no local live personalities...why listen to it when you can get satellite without interuptions or IPODS with what you like? If CBS puts as much effort as they did into ROCK HITS it is doomed before it begins!

I'm hearing alot of MP3 feedback on the songs.... Someone should check that IPod at 107 and maybe turn the volume down just a tad.

Im shortly outside of the demo (I'm 23) and it reminds me of when I listened to z100 when I was a kid. It would be something I'd listen to at the gym...upbeat, happy and something that reminds me of when I was a teenager (young teen, but teen nonetheless).

My music choices are a bit more eclectic now, but I find myself checking it out...

Also, although I enjoy satellite radio at home from time to time...their talent bugs me (it reminds me of college radio) and they broadcast in mono.

I can't listen to something that is trying to be the savior of FM radio when they have worse audio quality than what they are trying to replace.

It's new.... Why wouldn't you check it out??

KMCQ, The Dalles is much closer to moving up to Seattle. Here is the M & O for dismissing KMIH's Pet of Recon, ordering the settlement agreement accepted, and KMIH moving from 104.5 Mhz to 88.9 Mhz.

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=65 18524342

My gut tells me that KMCQ will immediately file a minor change to go from Radio Hill (Enumclaw, WA. Xmit site) to Cougar Mtn, and KAFE will move to 104.1, and First Broadcasting's Forks, WA. Class A will move to 103.3, I believe. In the meantime, the Commissioners will determine that KDUX's application for review to be null and void, and issue a Report & Order finishing this 4 year ordeal. And, oh yeah.....50 million bucks will change hands.............

Madonna up the whazoo! Does Madonna makes us feel good???
Isn't Madonna CHR/POP???

If CBS puts as much effort as they did into ROCK HITS it is doomed before it begins!

AMEN!!!!

CBS better put some effort into this station, Especially since they did a half assed job with "ROCK HITS". Hopefully they are smart enough to get live personalites on the station and not voice track. They also better get a good LIVE morning show going or else they will go bye-bye quick!

Madonna Circa 1991 in her "truth or dare" Video makes me feel Really good! When Im home alone.

low 30 age group target-will hurt Z100 and pull a few from Jammin. However Jammin will grow with teens as this station skus to the Z sweetspot.
They must put a live staff on and broadcast with a local flavor or it will be another cd machine on scramble.

Anybody Got $40 million they can spare! Think CBS will be selling off PDX in a few months when all of there advertisers move to more stable stations with good ratings and loyal listeners! Think maybe this flip was a flop before they even did it! Still mad about Rock Hits going bust without CBS even trying to do anything with that program!

Angry FM Listener.....for now at least!
92.3 KGON Portlands Classic Rock (My New Home)

No more talk radio in the morning.....nobody plays music anymore on the morning drive. That was a smart move when Rock Hits at one time played music in the mornings and was the only rock available on the dial....that was until Bob Rivers made a real disaster out of things. The one true good thing from this flip is that he got sent packing back to Seattle!

L8R

Yes, Movin 107-5 will be adding personalities.

Mix 107-5's "Rock Hits" format was never intended to last, which is why they put no effort into it.

It could have been a great program if they would have put some effort into it. It is in no way a conflict with KUFO and together they could have been great. Now it's back to KGON head to head with KUFO. What with 94.7 floundering right now and CBS cutting costs the choice for me at least was a no brainer 92.3 Classic Rock. Just my two cents as a listener!

Have A Good One!

What happend To Michael Wood? Did they blow him out the door also?

Darktemper,

How is 94.7 (who IS playing music on the morning drive) floundering? In numbers, programming, or just in your opinion? Please elaborate.

-w

That was just a mistake to have said that actually. You are right...they do and are one of the only music players in the morning drive. I have heard a few complaints that they have been messing with their format lately. Maybe not for the best. But as with any change there are always those that do not like it. You know if this is true or not?

L8

I read in another post that Tim has exited and Stacey is still on leave but when she returns she will most likely be the stations first live DJ. Hope Michael was retained in some manner. Thought he did a great job with the afternoon ride after the morning disaster "Bob Rivers". Heard that slot was something like 13 of 20....but that is not bad considering the morning drive was not even on the RADAR. Will miss ROCK HITS.

If stacey is smart she will bail on 1075 and move to Charlie. Movin is a disaster in the making. A total flavor of the month station. I enjoy some of this music but after listening to it for the last day, Im burnt out. Also, since management did a half assed job with "Rock hits", they will probably do a half assed job with Movin and lose! They don't have a great track record on 107.5. Hopefully they are smart enough to get live dj's.

Is Charlie adding talent outside of morning drive?

Who knows? Im guessing with Movin getting a live airstaff, charlie will too.

What does Movin' have to do with Charlie?

...AND they are looking for a PD!

from AA....

Movin’ 107.5 Portland is searching for the next great Program Director! We are looking for a strategic thinker who can effectively manage and balance multiple tasks and initiatives. Content creation, talent development and new technology skills are highly valued. Knowledge of popular culture, musical trends, and content distribution is a must. Knowledge of Selector, Audio-Vault and Cool Edit a plus. Send resume, cover letter and audio by 10/27/06 to: GM – KVMX, 2040 SW First Avenue, Portland, OR 97201 or portlandjobs@cbsradio.com . No calls please. CBS Radio is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

Sound like they want three people all rolled into one

This seems completely bone headed.

If a station is gonna get blown up, shouldn't they pick their guy first, then pick the format?

As it stands right now, it's like "ok, so we changed it all. Can you come help us and be the whipping boy if it doesn't work?"

The new 107.5: All the songs you'd hoped had died forever!

Bold move to dump and flip like that. Maybe they have the market for that in Portland. Time will tell. Hope somebody will pick up the ROCK HITS theme and put a little more effort into it though. Maybe 106.7 can add the eighties into its play list.

Have a Good One

It's time to flip the Jazz station to "ROCK HITS"...
Oh, crap! I shouldn't have said that because now Arb's to going to come out swingin'. You know how pissed she get's when someone talks about something they don't know a GD thing about....
Oh... Like her!

....I said that earlier, have everything in place then launch! Like so many others, it seems they want a babysitter for the music scheduling system rather than an actual PD.......

Sometimes I think the decision makers know what a PD does or is supposed to do. It's like having an army with Generals, Sergents, and privates....

You don't need the rest of the ranks.........

Didn't they have that exact same message for Rock hits? Were they not going to get a PD for Rock hits?
Yes they were,but they chose to have Dave Numme program it and he destroyed it by doing NOTHING!
So let me guess, Dave Numme will be the PD for Movin. I doubt they are even looking for a PD for Movin. I bet they will have Dave Numme PD Movin.
Stupid Move!

Yup, I agree Buns. They sure did a crappy job at keeping "Rock hits" alive. That station sounded dead from the minute it switched over. That format could have worked, but they chose to do NOTHING with it.
MOVIN will NOT WORK! The music is disposable and forgetable. 20 and 30 year old women don't want to hear Brittney Spears and that Paula Abduel Crap. I'm in the demo and I would never be caught dead listening to that crap! And how many times do we need to hear "1999" By Prince?? I don't mind Prince and madonna, but every hour? Thats gonna get old Really quickly, especially simce most of theose songs have been played to death. Movin won't stand a chance. A new Flavor of the month station will replace it in 6 months!

It's very common for a station to flip...and then hire a PD. This is because format changes are usually very highly guarded secrets. Of course, Movin 107-5 will require a new PD, since Dave Numme doesn't have any background in Rhythmic formats.

He did not have any background with ROCK HITS either! Just what is his background in...Elevator Music! LOL

107.5 HAD ADDED ITS FIRST PERSONALITY TO THE STATION! HELLO?

Say hello to Mr. Mark Dornfeld, the traffic guy.
Although he just goes by Mark. I guess now that he is at a more hip station he just goes by his first name.

Maybe he'll change his name to Marky Mark?

He has some Really hip music underneath his traffic breaks.

Sorry bout that poke at Numme....Actually good luck to CBS and their new station. So far their is more positive from people who like that music and mostly just the negative from people like me that liked the previous music they played. It is gone now so moving on.

Take It Easy Or Anyway You Can!

I think this station is going to get numbers. Especially when they add jocks & a local flair.

With Britney, Beyonce, Madonna and some 80's Dance music???
Stoner you really think it's going to get numbers???

This station will be big with women 18-49.
Darktemper sounds like a former 107.5 employee.

Movin may not be for you or me but it does have it's niche(from what my wife has heard she likes and she is in thier demo).One thing I have seen over my years of reading this site is,most of you act like any format change has to be the next big thing that everyone will listen to.As we know that will never happen as Every station gets ripped here for one reason or another.IMHO Movin with personalities will be what the BUZZ could have and should have been.And even if they tank in a few years,they are still going to make thier money.Just like novelty restaurants that make millions in a short period of time and then disappear.

Charlie
Movin'
Jack
Ernie
Burt
Cookie Monster

Here today.... Gone tomorrow.....

Perhaps a better name would be "Hot AC/Rhythmic.

Umm ... Ever hear the term "smoke screen" ... thats all Rock Hits was. While new imaging is produced, music libraries are built and new logos / branding are created, stations kill the old format and temporarily change. My first gig in Houston at age 17 was a legendary CHR that blew smoke with rock hits for 6 weeks while an intern (me) helped dub a library for what became billboard magazines country station of the year 3 years in a row. Also, CBS is driven by the bottom line. This change to movin reflects a lot of research. I think it will work for them with the right combo of music, morning show and marketing.

Another few words on the target demo. The same as Hot AC. Women 25 to 54 and more specific, females 25 to 34 ... this group is coveted by advertisers. As long as the station keeps its fingers on the pulse of their demo and anticipate trends and tastes for this group, they will have success. A few folks have questioned the playlist. Love it or hate it, songs like Madonnas Ray of Light test very well with the intended target. One final comment tonight from me, the notion that CBS should sell the Portland cluster and that advertisers are jumping ship is ridiculous ... and the suggested 40 million dollar price tag ... are you insane? Not only will they not sell this cluster, the value of their PDX properties has to be easily 120 million. I seriously doubt any advertisers or agencies have abandon them. Spot loads sound full on all stations to me and if i were making a buy in the market trying to reach a broad audience, I would spend with CBS .. as long as KUPL and KINK rates were affordable enough to reach my CPP

This is taken From Seattle's Movin.

MOViN 92.5 ON AIR FULL TIME

Want to be America's first MOViN jock live in Seattle with the rest of the cool people? If you know how to embrace your listeners on the phone, love being on the air and sound like it, are a team player with a burning drive to win and an under-control ego, you might be able to do it.
Mail your stuff to:
Lisa Adams
Program Director, MOViN 92.5
3650 131st Ave SE, Suite 550
Bellevue, WA 98006
Absolutely no phone calls or emails

Sounds like seattle is gearing up to get some LIVE Jocks on MOVIN!

Is this the same Lisa Adams that worked for the Beat in portland??

>>Sounds like seattle is gearing up to get some LIVE Jocks on MOVIN!<<

Not any time soon.

That job has been posted for nearly five months now and still no staff.

Lots of discussion about that on the "other" message board.

Plus, they ran an ad on AA last week saying their search was still continuing....

You know the over used we got some great demos, but we are still searching for the right people..
no ego, desire to win, creative.....

and no they don't bother to send a "got the demo" reply.......

I have been around long enough to figure that IF they add any staff, it will almost certainly be existing names known in the market

Recent format launches seem to be backwards...

throw it out there, see who is listening, then add some people to see if they make a difference in the ratings..............

the flaw with this plan is, if people sample then leave, adding anyone short of Geezus Himself won't get them back, yet the format flop will be blamed on the personalities who couldn't bring up the ratings.

That just strengthens the flawed logic position of why radio doesn't need LIVE airstaff.......

all boils down the need for a solid well thought, well planned launch, complete with staff promotions and advertising in place.....

Build it up promote the heck out of it and push it hard..........

yet that takes the money that Corporate radio does not want to spend on a format flip!

Nope....just acting like someone took my drink when I was not paying attention. Done with that and sorry for the negativity. Only positive feedback or general questions from now on.....but an occasional attempt at humor should anyone leave the outhouse door open!

Joe Listener

Hey Roger --

Gotta disagree with ya on this, too:

"and no they don't bother to send a "got the demo" reply..."

Sent a demo, got a nice acknowledgment from Lisa the PD about 10 days later.

If CBS doesn't put some marketing money into Movin it will be a LOSER! Although after listening to this stationn for the past few days, Im starting to hear the same songs, that were never good, even when they first came out. Infact a lot of these song I hear just remind me how much the early 90's and 80's music SUCKED! Johnny Gill "rub you the right way"??
HORRIBLE! At least with Charlie, that station will have a more mass apeal because they play rock and this crap that Movin plays. I think the Movin demo is so small that even their narrow targeted audience will get burnt out on thes cheesy pop songs. They can hear this stuff on Charlie, plus other stuff like Rock, So why listen to Movin when you can get it all at Charlie?

> They can hear this stuff on Charlie, plus other
> stuff like Rock, So why listen to Movin when you
> can get it all at Charlie?

Perhaps, the programming philosophy that justifies the existence of Movin' is that there are people who want to hear the dance music but not rock. Isn't this philosophical discussion almost like a throwback to the beginning of the Disco era, when Top-40 radio started focusing more on dance music because the research showed that most of its audience had a preference for dance music and other radio formats had been created that focused on rock?

I listened to the radio for a while on Sunday afternoon. I pushed buttons looking for something. Everytime I hit KUPL, it was another song I didn't care for. Everytime I hit KWJJ, they were in another commercial. Everytime I hit charlie, another tune I didn't care for. 106.7, either a song I didn't like or have at home and am satisfied with my own playing of it. Same thing with KISN but I dont't mind hearing it from them, again. Moving... hey they are playing a decent song..... another.... another.....Uh Oh, Prince "Let's Get Crazy"....heard that more than enough for a lifetime......change to KWJJ.... still in a commercial set..... change to KIJZ..don't like that, ....change to KWJJ finishing a commercial followed by a promo for 1000 song weekend or something like that on the NEW 99.5 Wolf....(how can they play 1000 tunes with all those spots...they must be the only ones selling time compared to the spots on the other stations.) but, they played HonkeyTonk Badonk or something like that...... tuned out before the end because I wasn't ready for more Howard Stern type commercial sets.

I can see listening to moving for maybe a half hour and then I am done for a week or so. A little goes a long way.

How many times do people need to be hit over the head with Prince and Madonna. You can only hear a song so many times until you never want to hear it again, THAT IS WHAT PROGRAMERS FAIL TO UNDERSTAND! At least with Charlie they have a huge playlist of songs that havent been played to death.

...Sent a demo, got a nice acknowledgment...

Well, I wish I had been extended the same courtesy. So, in 5 months, they can't find anyone qualified, or can't pull the trigger?

Were you interviewed? If they are seriously looking to add staff then add it... If not, then don't run the ad until they are ready.....

Anyone want to start a list of NW stations that advertised for help this year then never added anyone..... Several multiples included, but I can think of 10 off the top of my head and bet some that can name a few that I missed.

A distinct lack of courtesy is quite noticible, extremely frustrating, and unnecessary......G-R-R-R-R-R-R-R.....

Calm.... I'm calm..... Breathe in... out sloooowly......

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....................

Speaking of Lisa Adams, she did some excellent work for Portland's "107.5 The Beat". Does anyone remember "Operation Pinkhead"?

I had pinkeye once. How about operation "pinkeye"?

Say
Does anyone know what happened to the DJ's from 1075? I usually switched between KGON, NRK, KUFO, and 1075 and always enjoyed listening to them. Are they gonna continue with the new MOVIN program when it gets up and running? Hope so....they were a fun group to listen to.

107-5 K-GAY!!!!!!!

1075 K-Corn!
Home of the Corniest Music on the FM dial.

That station needs a PD quick. Its the same Crappy songs day after day. Just listening for an hour, you will have heard the entire Playlist. And where is the ADVERTISING MOVIN???? NOW is the time to get MOVIN instead of sitting on your asses like you did with ROCK HITS!

They've been on for what, a whole eight days? Every complaint leveled against 107.5 so far is over common occurences with new formats, whether it be the dislike of some songs, repetition while additional songs are still being acquired, low spot load -- how many real life listeners are complaining about that last one?

Some of the whining and complaining here is downright ignorant when coming from "insiders" and/or current broadcast students who are obviously not paying attention in class.

Well my wife and daughter both like the station so far. Funny they call it movin' too. When the station is on, it's full of songs they will both move to.

I tuned it in the car for them, it's a preset now.

107.5 is on a preset for the first time in over 6 years, when "The Beat" went away. ("Mix 107-5" had far too much repetition for my liking.)

Rock Hits was not given a fair shake. I heard someone say they never really got behind that program because they knew long term it was destined for this one. The rock Hits program if done right and give an opportunity would do very well in my uneducated opinion as a listener who grew up in the greatest era of rock music and groups...The Eighties, late seventies, and early nineties. Take STYX for example. Love the group but all I ever hear is Grand Illusion, Come Sail Away, Best of Times. When was the last time you heard Renagade, Snowblind, Sweet Madame Blue....there are tons of great music that is really untapped from that era. I hope someone picks that program up again and does something good with it.

KNUT'S ROCK123.4 "NOTHIN' BUT ROCK" Bringing you great ROCK from the seventies, eighties and more.

www.rock1234.com

Kind of Catchy...

"greatest era of rock music and groups...The Eighties, late seventies, and early nineties."

That is just your opinion. Someone from another era will say theirs is. Some will say the 50's is. Some will say the 60's. It depends on who you are and where you were.

For those that grew up in the beginnings of rock music, the 50's and 60's were the greatest and the 70's and 80's produced a lot of crap.

It is all subjective and we can all argue it forever and no real conclusions can be made except that we all have different tastes. For some, the greatest music was from the 40's. They are in a minority now, because a lot of them are dead or close to it. In 50 years, no one will care about the music of your "era". It is neither right or wrong, it just is.

You are so right...taste is subjective to the listener so I guess you have to program accordingly.....there is really something on the radio for everyone and no use in ragging on the stations you do not like....just dont listen.
its a free country....no one forcing us to listen to one station or the other.....kind of the opposite really with the way different stations have been changing lately.....instead of forcing you to listen its like they are forcing you away from FM towards satellite radio like a bunch of sheep to the slaughter. Think about it really...all those stations and staff nationwide and the costs involved with them....if it all went satellite no more towers to maintain or local offices.
Or the most likey reason that you just mentioned is that the DJ like the music from yesterday is also subjective...someone and something you wanted to listen to on the air....but I guess as things change and so has that....the DJ seems to be slowly dying off with the new fast everything whats in it for me generation. 20 years from now ill be telling my grandkids stories of how things were and they wont even know what FM radio is or what a DJ was. They will have broadband receivers hard wireed in their heads and just stream whatever they want.
Not that 1075 is one of those as it is just to early really to make any judgements at this point. Gonna give them some time and see how they progress. I guess its only fair to give them some time to get their feet under them after a change like they just did. Sorry for the other harsh remarks in other posts to you guys struggling at MOVIN trying to get it going.
If any of you are willing and without revealing any secrets...is it gonna be a great program?

Is Joamon4sure really darktemper. One appeared about the time the other disappeared and they both are so definite about everything they say. (Tongue in cheek)

That other dude is dead...hear he got new meds and things are starting to make his temper better...he may even move on and get a life. LOL

i Don't think I've heard "The Best of Times" since it was a current. It might be a bit too topical.

You may be right on that one.

You ever hear the Taliban Song or Smokin Weed With Willie played on the air?

I played "Ill Never Smoke Weed With Willie Again" on my show the day Willie got busted for pot in Louisiana a few weeks back.

I'll bet that was a hoot...probably lit up all the phone lines. I die laughing everytime I hear that one. Nice Going!

Here's some points to ponder about Satellite Radio.

Satellite is an extremely high cost indevour. What do Satellites do? The slowly fall to the earth.. Last I checked, its not so cheap to keep relaunching Satelittes every couple years. So where does this money come from? Well, its already begun (both XM and Sirius have already said they may have to go this route) to put advertising on the channels. Sirius is going to start first with Howard 100 to help pay his salary. There are other operating cost involved which I won't get into right now, time for more beer..

Sirius is going to start first with Howard 100 to help pay his salary.

Correct me if I'm wrong but they have been advertising on Howard Stern for a while. This show is sponsored by....so and so.

Was just wondering about something.
With the might and power of the corporate offices has anyone given any thought to a nationwide broadcast professionals union? Together you people in the industry may have a leg to stand on but as individuals...well its just you alone against the machine. Not that I favor unions but they do have advantages in certain industries. Anyway was just wondering about that.

You ever hear of AFTRA? It is the weak, but still national unon for broadcasters.

Good ol' AFTRA...

You can still be fired for any reason, but you get a little severance. And part-timers get paid slightly higher than average...if you can afford the $500 joining fee.

Oh...Was not aware of it. To bad it is weak. A strong union for you guys would be a big plus.
In GOD We Trust....In The All Mighty Dollar We Believe!
Corporate Faith Statement! LOL

I have always enjoyed listening to Stacey Lynne, But after turning on Movin today and hearing Whitney Houstin "I wanna dance with somebody" I have finally realized that the music is so god-awful nothing can keep me listening to that station. (AND I'm in the demo) I am TOTALLY QUESTIONING THE MUSIC SELECTIONS they are playing. RIP 1075. Its absolute CRAP!

I agree with Beano, the music selections are very painful to listen to. Let me also add that I would love for this station to work, because I think they could turn this into a very unique and interesting station, But they need the right people programing the music. THEY need someone LOCAL doing LOCAL Portland Research who is out in the CLUBS and Know what 20-30 year old women want to hear. Not some Boner from New York deciding what songs to play on all stations across the country, That is insane! Everytime I turn that station on its always a train wreck of songs that just makes a person cringe. The Weather Girls "its Raining men"???? I don't get it. Im open to hearing some great techno and hip hop, and lets face it there was plenty of LEGENDS that will be remembered in 20 years like Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, House Of Pain, The list is endless. But why do they always have to play the songs that make you go "OH GOD that was awful" Snow Informer, The weather Girls, whitney Houston- I don't get it. Play some artists that actually have some substance.

Yep I agree guys, the playlist on MOVIn is more stale than a piece of year old bread. Where is the Pioneers of Rap? The groups that will stand the test of time.
Im talking about goups like Kurtis blow, Run Dmc, George Clinton, Snoop Dogg, Public Enemy, Arrested Development.
The fact that Movin is not playing anything off "doggy Style" by Snoop Dogg- one of the biggest rap albums of all time, is a mystery to me. Even Charlie is playing snoop dogg. Heck, I have yet to hear my theme song!! "insane in the membrane" by Cypress hill. I havent herd that on the radio in YEARS!!!!

The target is not 20-30 year olds but rather Women 25-44. It's probably the old AC concept of playing to 25-34 without offending 35-44.

Snoop Dogg is too hardcore for the "Movin" format.

Hey Justin --

Movin is a format geared to women rather than guys...the acts you mention save Arrested Development test heavily male.

I'm in the demo and have listened to the station for the past couple of days. Personally, I enjoy it but not in large amounts. It's a Rice Krispie Treat...no nutritional value, but tasty just the same.

I don't believe that at all. Where are you doing this music testing? So your saying that women in their 20's and 30 JUST want to hear Whitney houston, Paula Abduel, and Snow???? Im 29 years old, have 2 kids and I love Snoop dogg, so does many women. Where are you getting this research???? You go to any club in portland, and you will never HEar Snow Paula Abduel, or any of that CRAP that Movin is playing. I love how these Stupid and Irrelivant comments about how something is too hard, will scare women away. Thats like saying 30 year old women Hate Nirvana because they are too hardcore. Its Bullshit and doesn't hold any water. Snoop Dogg was Top 40 back in the day, a predominately female format. And Arrested Development was TARGETED TOWARD WOMEN, not men. So you're wrong on that too. "doggystyle" was one of the biggest selling Rap albums OF ALL TIME!!! They are crazy not to play it.
Sorry Dawgz I don't believe it!

OK, Beano - you have your perspective, and that's cool. But I'm not calling your opinions stupid or irrelevant - just chill - this is a radio forum. We're not curing cancer here.

When I was a CHR PD a couple of years ago, I had access to much research on this type of music... we considered going Rhythmic for a while. So my comments are not without merit - and in fact, based in research rather than just opinion as are your comments. "Best-selling" does not always mean "best-testing".

I happen to love Snoop and Nirvana and hate Paula Abdul - so we are not that far apart in taste. But programming a radio station isn't about your personal taste.

And finally - I'm not sure why you're arguing with me about Arrested Development being targeted towards women - that's exactly what I was saying. I don't agree with all of Movin's choices, just pointing out what I knew from actual research.

Why not, Im in the demo, so are all my friends. We love to go out dancing on saturday nights.
Give me some portland research that says women in portland just want to hear New Shooz and Paula Abduel. Please bring it on, because I would love to see that research. And by the way Dawgz aren't you in Movin's Demo and Your Female also??????
Would you ever be caught dead listening to Paula Abduel??
Thats what I thought!

Beano...

Learn to spell. Learn some basic grammar. Learn proper capitalization. What a maroon.

People who are living the lifestyle of a particular demo should have some sort of say in the music that they are programming. Yes you have to do your research BUT having a radio station that just sticks to a corporate, generic playlist will fade fast. Look at Charlie, do you think they TEST all of their music, HECK NO, THATS WHY THEY HAVE LISTENERS!! People are tired of the same burnt out overly researched CRAp that is clogging up the airwaves.
ANd Yes "I wanna dance with somebody" By Whitney Houston is one of those songs.
thats my two cents, which probably makes no sense.
107.5 will burn out quick with its current stale playlist.

Someone said in a previous post that this is just the temporary playlist while they polish the program and that they will be adding live shows. Is there any positive support to back that or is what is on now what it will be? Gonna let my wife and daughter sample it and observe their reaction on next road trip. One is slightly before and one just after your age target. Will post how they like\dislike it.

Ok....my two cents....I listened to the "NEW" Movin format when they launched in Seattle...I didn't sample it again until after the "NEW" Movin 107.5 came on and noticed that the playlist seems deeper and has changed some since it first signed on in Seattle...I think we will see the same thing here...It's been a number of years but I was involved with more than 1 format change over the years and if memory serves me well we launched each format with a list of about 500 to 600 songs...then added more after the first 30 to 45 days...I do believe that we will see the same thing with Movin-PDX...let's give them some time...by the way I would suspect that their target isn't necessarily geared towards the "club" audience...it's geared towards a more broader audience...my two....no let's make it three cents worth...

Radio would be a lot better if they threw the research out the door, hired a PD that could program the music THEY see fit for the format they are trying to reach. Roll with it and make changes based on listener feedback, not research.

Snoop Dogg is the Jimi Hendrix of Rock! For Movin to leave out such an important Icon that has transformed rap into the mainstream is crazy!

Research IS listener feedback! Mayonnaise, I'm not sure what you were trying to say but I would say that Jimi Hendrix is the Jimi Hendrix of Rock!

Justin_timberfakeSalmonellaBeanoBunsofsteelMayonnaise:

I'm betting that "Movin 107-5" will follow their research and continue to improve. Let's see where they are in one year.

Exactly....A few weeks do not make a station. You have to give it at least a year. So lets leave this subject alone......

Ok, I agree, but they are starting out with a pretty weak playlist.
Just my .02 cents

END OF THREAD THEN????

Salmonella>> People are tired of the same burnt out overly researched CRAp...

What is your definition of "overly researched"? That statement makes no sense to me.

Salmonella>> Look at Charlie, do you think they TEST all of their music, HECK NO, THATS WHY THEY HAVE LISTENERS!!

On what do you base that statement? Has this been confirmed by someone inside, or did you just make it up? So they have listeners because they don't ask listeners what they want to hear? Whatever.

reinstatepete>> Roll with it and make changes based on listener feedback, not research.

So how do you propose to get feedback from the majority of listeners who never call a request line, er, um, I mean never call a station's automated voice-mail?

On what do you base that statement? Has this been confirmed by someone inside, or did you just make it up? So they have listeners because they don't ask listeners what they want to hear? Whatever.

Well...... I just guessed. Im assuming songs like Disco Duck by Rick Dees and Purple people Eater don't test very well, but I could be wrong.

Speaking of Rick Dees...I've been sampling his new morning show on Movin 93-9. I'm lovin' it!

Im sure you're the only one too.

Jacksonville, FL now has "Movin 100.7" WMUV.

Charlie played Disco Duck and PPE?! Granted, that would suggest the possibility of untested songs, but those examples aren't the best to prove Charlie's superiority.

Randy....
Superiority??? Random is just good....
Charlie kicks Movin's ass!

I came up to Portland a few days ago, and tuned in 107.5 . I must say I'm not impressed. A jockless station mixed in with cheesy 80's dance songs we've heard a million times combined with the blackeyed peas don't funk with my heart ( I heard that four times within the day) , isn't exactly entertaining radio. Let's ask our selves this question- IPOD or Movin 107.5? : which one wins? Sorry, this WASN'T the way to break open a new format.

You don't have to come up to Portland to hear Movin 107-5. It's heard all over the valley!

Xpert...
I'm sorry!

Now...Movin 97.5 is on...in the Phoenix area. Bill Minckler's Modern Standards format (Star 97.5) is no more.

A perfect format to broadcast coast to coast from a central studio......It's spreading like the plague........

Is 1075 going to be adding "LIVE" personalities??
Or are they going to be cheap and add voicetracked personalities from outside portland. If this was a Cheap Channel station,the answer would be obvious, but I'm hoping that CBS doesn't want to compromise the integrity of the station by voice tracking out of state personalities.

I've heard that CBS is going to get as many "live" personalities on MOVIN as the budget can afford. Which means one live disk jockey!

Doesn't CBS use more live personalities than any other Portland cluster? KINK, KUPL and K-Hits all have a lot of live air talent. Entercom runs two juke boxes, Charley and MoooooVin'. And CC is going more and more for VTs from across the country.

Never mind. You can't tell the players without a scorecard and I lost my scorecard.

Onetimeradioguy,

Movin IS a CBS station.

.. I lost my scorecard....

You mean, I lost my LINERcard!
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It’s been a long time since I posted, but I need to chime in on this one

First, who's in this demo? From what I can tell very few of the posters.

Movin is a breath of fresh air to me, I DJ on air/clubs, and think its great to hear the recurrents that get parties "Movin" on the radio. There's no comparison to Charlie, Charlie is aimed at a totally different demo. As a proud gen X male it’s nice to hear some older cuts mixed with newer hits. No it’s not perfect yet, but how can it be without a staff? Reading the board I get the impression that most of you are old white guys that urban/black music (A big part of the Movin format). The rest of us should thank CBS for filling a hole in the market. On any given night I can throw on a good portion of the "movin" playlist, and pack the floor with ladies. AC isn’t dead, but this is the same attitude that kept Rap/R&B off the radio in this market in the 90's.


BTW Most of the females I know in the movin demo have added it to their presets.

HEY!!!!

Rock Hits is back on....check out the links below!!!

http://www.mix1075portland.com/djs/
http://www.mix1075portland.com/sassy/index.php

What Up Witt Dat!!!
Someone left the back door open....shame, shame, shame.

Three letters...FAD.

However, if money can be made from this FAD, so be it. But, where will this format be in 2008?

I'm all for taking the money and run ("Steve Miller, 1976), but what is the future?

Which brings the whole question of what is "oldies" in late 2006? Perhaps the oldie format needs to be broken down... pop, disco, ac, rock. "movin" does not represent the mainsteam pop formats that existed 20-30 years ago.

For the last 5 years I've been waiting for a hip-hop oldies format. The best of the golden era, from 78-94. Plenty of grist to churn through, and it covers damn near the birth of every era of hip hop currently: that old dance hip-hop, the gangster shit, the political, conscious rap, goofy joke rap, that period was ridiculously fertile ground for creative minds back then and it's pretty much all but BURIED save for the novelty hits of the day that sneak on the air, or 2 hour shows like Spinderella's Backspin on 95.5.

Although Im not In Movin's demo, Im surprised the music is not more palatable to a wider audience.
They seem to play a lot of the disposable artists that are forgetful, and were never really good in the first place. More of a marketing success than putting out actual quality music eg. brittney, Robyn. If they are really targeting women up into their late 40's, they should throw in some Mowtown, stuff like Jackson 5, Stevie Wonder ect, some artists with some actual substance instead of the teenie boper crap.
Just my two cents, which usually makes no Cents.

Think 25-34 with overlap to 44.

I find Movins music STALE, boring and predictable.
How many times do we need to hear "u cant touch this" by Hammer???? We have been listening to Movin at my work and people are already complaining about the music and the lack of variety! Movin continues to play the same crappy songs every day! Didn't they get a PD???

Q: I'm all for taking the money and run ("Steve Miller, 1976), but what is the future?

A: Time keeps on slippin, slippin' slippin into the future

Hey Merkin are those your "black panties in a velvet case"??

Oops wrong song.

I heard Movin' in an auto parts store and there wasn't a 25-44 female anywhere!

That autoparts store must be full of GAY GUYS Semoochie. I can't see a bunch of straight men rocking out to "its raining men".
Movin has done a great job of killing off all of their male listeners and a HUGE chunck of their female listeners also. AT least with Charlie you will get a huge number of female listeners plus it is also a station that guys can listen to also.

Beano>> That autoparts store must be full of GAY GUYS

Why the stereotyping?

Beano>> Movin has done a great job of killing off all of their male listeners and a HUGE chunck of their female listeners also.

Did they add Alfred Hitchcock's "Music to be Murdered By" LP to the playlist?

Do you have numbers or other research proving your statement that they are losing audience, or are you just making stuff up because you don't happen to like the format?

If you're a big radio company, and you've already lowered yourself to transplanting music "safe lists" from other markets when launching a new format, how about officially becoming "format of the week"? A new paradigm where you completely change music formats and target demos every 7 days, and the ONLY thing that stays the same is the jocks?

Would it not be fun to tune in Monday morning, and hear a roster of great jocks who did Top 40 last week tackle Country or Smooth Jazz this week, Hip-Hop or WWII-era standards next week? Would this not be the ultimate blast as a jock?

It almost seems that the only tool the big companies feel will draw new cume is a format change. So, change it more often! Use strong personalities as the thread that holds listeners and advertisers through the adventure, and do it all with imaging, TV spots and week-old Selector logs from other markets where you do the format.

As a listener, would you enjoy hearing someone like Bob Miller dunk-tanked into a new format every Monday?

Can you really say radio's not almost there already?