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Author: Skybill
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 12:16 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAqPMJFaEdY

The future of Detroit autos!

Author: Trixter
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 12:43 pm
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I'm sticking with my Durango!

Author: Listenerpete
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 1:07 pm
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It sure should be pretty obvious, that conservatives just can't do comedy. When you put too much spices on any food, it ruins it.

Author: Skybill
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 1:22 pm
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I found it funny.

I do however understand why some liberals wouldn't because it didn't have any gays, lesbians, illegal aliens, welfare recipients, socialized medicine and government handouts in it.

Yeah, Trixter, I'll stick with my Land Cruiser too!!!

Author: Chris_taylor
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 2:32 pm
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I didn't LOL but I found it amusing.

Author: Kennewickman
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 2:40 pm
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The French are now manufacturing a car that runs on compressed air ! It works, especially for city driving.

Comming to America late this year or next. 18 grand, 1000 mile range with enhanced biofueled heat source to heat air and expand it for more efficiency, max speed 90 mph. Fiberglass body, going through US body standards approval for side collision testing. 2 seater and 4 seater availiable. Made in France now, licensed for India this year..comming soon to North America.

And we wonder why the American Auto makers are having trouble !

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automobile/new_cars/4251491.html

Author: Listenerpete
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 2:43 pm
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I found it funny.

That's pretty obvious.

I do however understand why some liberals wouldn't because it didn't have any gays, lesbians, illegal aliens, welfare recipients, socialized medicine and government handouts in it.

That make no sense. Do you see what I mean? You guys put in so much crapola, that it ceases to be funny.

Author: Jr_tech
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 2:48 pm
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After years of driving a 1500 lb fiberglass Lotus Europa, which was imported in small enough numbers that the "side impact" spec was waived, I broke out in a cold sweat seeing the side impact test. OUCH !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Europa

Author: Skybill
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 2:50 pm
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It makes as much sense as your It sure should be pretty obvious, that conservatives just can't do comedy. statement.

So you didn't find it funny. No big deal. Some people will, some won't.

Author: Kennewickman
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 3:19 pm
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I cant get youtube at work, its blocked. I will look at it when I go home.

Author: Alfredo_t
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 3:32 pm
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I think that French car is full of hot air!!

Author: Jr_tech
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 4:03 pm
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Yep:

"Compressed air is a heavy way of storing energy. 300 litres (11 cu ft) of air at 30 MPa (4,500 psi) contains about 16 kWh of energy (the equivalent of 1.7 liters [0.44 US gal, 0.37 imp gal] of gasoline, assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine)."

From Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_car

Author: Trixter
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 4:25 pm
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I do however understand why some liberals wouldn't because it didn't have any gays, lesbians, illegal aliens, welfare recipients, socialized medicine and government handouts in it.


And for you it didn't involve killing THOUSANDS of American soldiers and HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of INNOCENT women and children in a WORTHLESS invasion. Not to mention the TRILLIONS upon TRILLIONS of dollars WASTED only to have our children's, children's children have to pay back.

Author: Deane_johnson
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 4:35 pm
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Trixter, it's time for your meds.

Author: Kennewickman
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 5:01 pm
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So. It is still more efficient and a lot cleaner than internal combustion. But that depends upon how you generate your electricy relative to what your carbon foot print really is filling up your compressed air tanks.

In the N.W we have hydroelectric, much of the rest of the country is coal or Nuclear. In europe Nuclear for the most part.

And the other aspect is Political and Economical . Not as much reliance on the Mid East.

Author: Missing_kskd
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 6:30 pm
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There is a lot to be said for that last point.

Author: Trixter
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 6:32 pm
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Trixter, it's time for your meds.

ONLY after you and 62 start yours FIRST!

Author: Brianl
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 7:19 pm
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OMG that is funny ... I don't care how "offensive" it may be to some, it's hilarious!

People need to settle down.

Author: Skeptical
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 11:30 pm
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After years of driving a 1500 lb fiberglass Lotus Europa, which was imported in small enough numbers that the "side impact" spec was waived, I broke out in a cold sweat seeing the side impact test. OUCH !

Fortunately for you, that Lotus didn't start half the time and you ended up taking a bus.

:-)

Author: Randy_in_eugene
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 11:35 pm
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>>In the N.W we have hydroelectric, much of the rest of the country is coal or Nuclear.

I think it's safe to say even the dirtiest forms of electricity generation are going to be much more efficient and cleaner than millions upon millions of individual internal combustion pollution generators, each only providing enough energy to move one vehicle.

Author: Jimbo
Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 8:35 am
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Actually, much of the rest of the country is coal, Oil, and Natural Gas, with some pockets of nuclear. Nuclear being the cleanest.
Yes, we do have hydroelectric in the NW but a good percentage of our electricity still comes from coal, the dirtiest of all sources. Coal alone generates 40% of the CO2 gases in the atmosphere.

The US gets most of it's oil from Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela, not the mideast.

I wouldn't buy anything made in France. I've ridden in Europe in some of their creations...cheap Citroens made out of plywood where the headlights need to be reaimed if someone gets in the back seat. There was a knob to twist to adjust them from inside the car.

But, the video was funny!!!!! Before I buy anything that congress says I should buy, I want to see all of them driving one first and on their own dime.

Author: Missing_kskd
Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 8:59 am
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@Randy: We should just burn something more tame. Alcohol comes to mind. Brazil does this, and it works just fine. Seems to me, lots of stuff grows here, like Sugar Palm, that can be used to produce automotive fuel.

And, since we need manufacturing, why not start building all of that out? We get jobs, help the environment, reduce the worry over oil all in one project!

What about a hybrid car that burns alcohol, and runs on compressed air. When at idle, it's compressing the tank for start up! Or, on braking it does the same, with a reserve. That way the car can be put into motion with air, engine started once in motion, and an automatic clutch to handle all of it for the driver.

Batteries are expensive, heavy, leak, wear out, require rare and poison elements...

We know how to do combustion really, really well. Compressed air is mature too.

Seems to me the energy problem takes at least two forms. There is energy required for transport, and there is energy required for living and working.

The latter can be built out in many forms, each tuned for the region in which it operates. The former really needs to be a standard, or we deal with lots of costs.

If we settle ordinary transportation for people, leaving petro-fuels for commercial interests, that's a huge part of the problem solved.

Author: Kennewickman
Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 9:23 am
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And the air car uses biofuels to heat the air for more efficiency for longer range and speed. The amount of fuel is small, from what I have read. We make biofuels here now. And we can make more.

The big problem for the US market is the body. It is fiberglass and glue , essentially. In France and India, it isnt an issue. The standards have to be adjusted for the US market and that is the rub right now. And the bottom line is the weight of the vehicle, of course .

I know about Citreon cars....I believe someone told me once that Citreon means lemon in French ! They are cheap cars, I have been to France and ridden in them over there and once I knew a guy who had one here in the U.S. I was a piece of crap .

Author: Jr_tech
Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 11:34 am
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"The big problem for the US market is the body"

And (IMHO) the problem does not end with Manufacturing problems. As one who has driven a 1500 lb fiberglass car for over 20,000 miles, I would be very reluctant to go there again just to save a few gallons of gas! Too scary to share the road with SUVs and other large vehicles. Skep is correct, the Lucas starter* probably saved my life!

Perhaps in a more controlled environment, like special communities designed for this type of vehicle only or computer controlled traffic lanes...I don't know what it would take!

*and a MTBF of about 2 hours.

Author: Jimbo
Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 8:38 pm
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"I was a piece of crap ."
Really Kennewickman?

Author: Kennewickman
Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 2:19 pm
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Must ah been a Freudian slip !

Talk about open mouth and insert foot !


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