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Author: Listenerpete
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 7:41 am
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FAUX News

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Author: Darktemper
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 7:56 am
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I'm gonna pirate this from another thread:

A Message From President Obama on the Rescue of Cargo Ship Captain!

Author: Deane_johnson
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 8:08 am
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Isn't the President supposed to issue orders that will result in a good ending?

By the way, why did it take him so long to give the orders, and why did he need 17 advisers around a conference table for hours just to decide to blow the pirates heads apart?

I hope to Gawd there are never any Russian missiles headed toward the U.S.

Author: Listenerpete
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 8:21 am
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The ship's captain is alive and well, isn't he? I am sure that was President Obama's objective, not your cowboy style. How the f do know when the orders were given?

Edit: You can add yourself as one of the LOONS, Deane.

Author: Chris_taylor
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 8:37 am
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Deane-
You better get used to a President that actually thinks before he acts.

What I am waiting for from you now is how to handle the situation because you have 3 pirates dead and a freed US Captain, but you haven't resolved the core issue. Got any ideas?

Author: Deane_johnson
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 9:12 am
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"but you haven't resolved the core issue"

What is the core issue in your mind?

Author: Chris_taylor
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 9:27 am
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Deane, read Littlesongs' early posts on the "Pirates" thread and you will see a layer of problems that have been going on for years. Piracy is a result of many factors.

Author: Vitalogy
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 9:52 am
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People that hate America, like Deane, just can't stand it when America is successful.

This episode was an overwhelming victory for the Obama Administration.

Author: Deane_johnson
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 10:55 am
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"Deane, read Littlesongs' early posts on the "Pirates" thread and you will see a layer of problems that have been going on for years. Piracy is a result of many factors."

If I wanted to read a novel, I'd choose War and Peace.

By the way, does Littlesongs now do your thinking for you?



"People that hate America, like Deane, just can't stand it when America is successful.

This episode was an overwhelming victory for the Obama Administration."

Right you are, screw those dumb Navy Seals. They did nothing. It was Obama all the way. Damn, you're disparate for him to do something. Me to, but this wasn't it.

Author: Skeptical
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 11:30 am
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People, clearly we've got to start ignoring Deane. Just because on rare occasion you agree with him doesn't excuse the BS he unloads here. He's a troll. Think Wayne and ignore the troll.

Author: Alfredo_t
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 11:44 am
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> What is the core issue in your mind?

I will put it more simply: A few pirates get killed. Does this provide much of a guarantee that somebody else isn't going to try piracy in the future?

Author: Deane_johnson
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 12:09 pm
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It certainly doesn't. What is your proposal for a guarantee?

Author: Chris_taylor
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 1:05 pm
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"By the way, does Littlesongs now do your thinking for you?"

I extrapolate ideas and thoughts from various places like we all do Deane. What Littlesongs posted was some information I was unaware of. I admitted my ignorance on the situation when it came to piracy.

I'm trying to become more informed avoiding my best not to be as ass like you.

Author: Deane_johnson
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 1:19 pm
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Chris, can you point to one thing in Littlesongs' post that justifies piracy, armed robbery and killing. Just one thing. Even a tiny thing.

By the way Chris, I don't call you names. Are you out of anything useful to post.

So far as the accusations of the dumping hazardous materials, which has nothing to do with piracy, it's terrible. Where's the UN? I know, they're busy condemning the US for who knows what.

Author: Amus
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 1:19 pm
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"If I wanted to read a novel, I'd choose War and Peace"

You would prefer to have complex issues narrowed down for you into small understandable bites (like the former President) as opposed to doing the work it takes to really understand them?

Author: Chris_taylor
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 1:27 pm
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Mr. Johnson.

A dialogue is something you don't have any intention of having. I've already wasted enough bandwidth. As far as name calling, yeah that was a bit beyond what I normally do but it's certainly how I feel.

And with that I think we're done trying to converse. You'll have your hands full with everyone else. I simply tire of your BS.

Author: Deane_johnson
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 1:38 pm
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Liberals always duck out when the questions get direct.

Author: Missing_kskd
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 1:47 pm
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Ouch!

You know that hurt Deane. I can count the number of times Chris has gone down this road on ONE hand over many years.

I'll join him for a while.

Author: Deane_johnson
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 2:07 pm
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Turns out it was untrained teenagers that it took the Obama administration something like 5 days to get under control. Damn, I hope nothing more serious happens to this country while he's in office.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.31df982b8ef5619e88e7984ec0013344.501 &show_article=1

Author: Alfredo_t
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 2:09 pm
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> What is your proposal for a guarantee?

I don't think that there are any sure-fire guarantees. What I had envisioned, for legitimate container ships, is that the countries to which those are registered--or possibly a coalition of countries--should offer to put military personnel on board the ships to patrol for any pirates who might try to climb on board. The ship operators should also consider taking measures to make it more difficult for somebody approaching in a small boat to climb up the side of one of these ships. The ship owners are always free to decline the government help, if they so choose. The important thing is that would-be pirates get the impression that virtually all of the really valuable container ships (that is, ones most likely to bring a nice ransom payment from the companies owning them) have patrolmen on board and even boarding such a vessel is extremely difficult.

As I have mentioned before, I am perfectly happy to let the pirates continue to capture ships loaded with toxic waste and illegal fishing vessels.

Author: Vitalogy
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 2:12 pm
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Untrained teenagers smart enough to take over a ship and hold it's captain hostage for several days. And administration that's smart enough to end it with getting the hostage out alive and killing or detaining those responsible, unlike the previous adminstration.

Author: Listenerpete
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 3:03 pm
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Turns out it was untrained teenagers that it took the Obama administration something like 5 days to get under control.

Do you mean there is a school for training pirates, Deane? LOL How much training is needed to pull the trigger of an AK-47? About all you can do, Deane, is to parrot Drudge/Breitbart.

Author: Kennewickman
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 3:11 pm
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George Bush would likely have done the same thing as President Obama. Lets face it, you listen to those that know how to deal in these situations and let them handle it, Obama did just that and so would have W . Obama showed that he isnt built like Jimmy Carter , micromanaging something he knows nothing about, or not enough about, Obama knows how to delegate . There is some comfort to me in all this especially as a "right of center" voter and one who didnt vote for Obama last November.

One thing though , Bush may have had more to say about it all in terms of Rhetoric than Obama did , especially before the recovery of the Captain. But the end result would have been the same.

I always thought that Obama would do prety much what Bush would have done in this instance throughout the crisis , Pirates , teenagers or not. They were dangerous people with automatic fire arms and loaded for bear, made a big fuss and scared the hell a lot of people all over the world and in the end 3 of them lost their lives over it all.

And I did take exception to some of the theories that Littlesongs proposed in our Pirate String. And yes , there were a few items she ( I think Littlesongs is a she, correct me if I am wrong ) posted that I was unaware of, so learning is ''Good ///.

Author: Amus
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 3:40 pm
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"George Bush would likely have done the same thing as President Obama."

I disagree.
I think there is a strong likelyhood Bush would have invaded Venezuela.

Prove me wrong.

Author: Skeptical
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 3:40 pm
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someone intelliegent said:

I'm trying to become more informed avoiding my best not to be as ass like you.

an ass said in response:

I don't call you names. Are you out of anything useful to post.

When someone comes in here and poops all over the forum, being called an "ass" is the expected response from a rational human being.

Author: Deane_johnson
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 5:02 pm
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"poops all over the forum"

You mean someone who doesn't choose to bow before the anointed one, the savior of mankind who wants to turn this into a socialist state. If you mean someone who chooses not to buy the crap, I plead guilty.

Author: Vitalogy
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 5:17 pm
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We are already a socialist state, always have always will. Obama is just making sure the little guy gets a piece rather than the top 3%.

Author: Alfredo_t
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 5:45 pm
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quote:

I think Littlesongs is a she, correct me if I am wrong




No--Littlesongs's real name is Dave. I met him at one of our board get-togethers a while back.

Author: Trixter
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 6:31 pm
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Liberals always duck out when the questions get direct.

And neo-CON extremists duck out and HIDE when confronted with the truth.

Author: Brianl
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 6:55 pm
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"Right you are, screw those dumb Navy Seals. They did nothing. It was Obama all the way. Damn, you're disparate for him to do something. Me to, but this wasn't it."

Obama had to sign off on it before the Navy Seals did a damn thing, Deane.

Yes, they did the duty, and they succeeded. But, the Commander in Chief had to give the order.

So, yes, the words were straight from Obama's mouth, er pen.

The fact that you threw Chris, possibly the most well-thought and respected person on this forum, under the bus like you did shreds away any and all credibility you have.

Carry on.

Author: Trixter
Monday, April 13, 2009 - 7:14 pm
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The fact that you threw Chris, possibly the most well-thought and respected person on this forum, under the bus like you did shreds away any and all credibility you have.


Pretty much!

Author: Deane_johnson
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 3:39 am
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"The fact that you threw Chris, possibly the most well-thought and respected person on this forum, under the bus like you did shreds away any and all credibility you have."

So is that supposed to give him a pass when he enters the political fray with his discussion? Oh, that's right, liberals feel that there should be double standards all over the place. I forgot for a moment.

Author: Trixter
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 8:55 pm
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I think that's neo-CON fascist extreme rights like yourself have double standards and used them to the fullest for 8 years while your Lord and savior was in office.

Author: Broadway
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 10:05 pm
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>>your Lord and savior was in office
Do I hear a little projection here?
If there ever was a "messiah" candidate/prez, it's our current leader.

Author: Amus
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 6:16 am
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That depends on your definition of "Messiah".

Mes·si·ah (m-s) n.
1. also Mes·si·as (m-ss) The anticipated savior of the Jews.
2. also Messias Christianity Jesus.
3. messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator.


Considering who (and what) his predisessor was.
I'll take definition number 3 and be happy with the label.

Author: Trixter
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 7:03 pm
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If there ever was a "messiah" candidate/prez, it's our current leader.



After the last 8 years we need anything and if YOU want to call him a Messiah then great! I call him a better leader than DUHbya was PERIOD!

Author: Littlesongs
Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 6:53 am
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"If I wanted to read a novel, I'd choose War and Peace."

Deane, I am flattered to be tossed with Tolstoy into your growing pile of burning books. Facts are so burdensome. I am much less nice than Chris or I would simply repeat his firm and thoughtful response.

Instead, I will gleefully remind you that your days are almost done. Get it? The planet will soon take your molecules back and make something more useful out of them, like say dust.

So, with so little time left, will you be spending every last minute insulting people who once liked, admired and respected you? Or will you find something constructive to do in those waning moments?

Tick. Tick. Tick.

Author: Darktemper
Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 7:56 am
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Aw, cut him some slack, he and his buddies are all suffering from "Post-Party Depression".

Author: 62kgw
Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 6:14 pm
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did Obama stage the pirate thing?

Author: Kennewickman
Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 7:05 pm
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STAGE A PIRATE ATTACK 200 MILES OFF SOMALIA????

I dont think even Don Rumsfeld could pull that one off.

Author: Listenerpete
Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 7:08 pm
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did Obama stage the pirate thing?

Of course he did. He made sure the pirates were teenagers, so his buddy Rush Limbaugh could admonish him for killing black Muslim teenagers.

Author: Trixter
Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 8:56 pm
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did Obama stage the pirate thing?


Did you hit the crack pipe too much this morning?

Author: 62kgw
Friday, April 17, 2009 - 8:36 am
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Trix,How many times did we hear that BushCheney or Military staged 9-11 thing?were all those who thought that all cracked up??

Author: Chris_taylor
Friday, April 17, 2009 - 8:50 am
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I choose to use common sense.

Author: Stevethedj
Friday, April 17, 2009 - 8:59 am
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I'm loving how the loony left and right are worried about each other. Fun to watch. Chris, where is that call you promised me. regards Steve.

Author: Aok
Friday, April 17, 2009 - 9:36 am
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Deane_johnson:
Isn't the President supposed to issue orders that will result in a good ending?

You mean like Iraq???

Author: 62kgw
Monday, April 20, 2009 - 6:45 pm
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lOONEY tOONS??

Author: Listenerpete
Monday, April 20, 2009 - 6:57 pm
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Your Caps Lock key is on.

Author: Vitalogy
Monday, April 20, 2009 - 7:14 pm
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As our old friend Herb would say, "You can't make this stuff up."

Author: Trixter
Monday, April 20, 2009 - 10:29 pm
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Deane_johnson:
Isn't the President supposed to issue orders that will result in a good ending?

You mean like Iraq???


DING
DING
DING

We have a winner!

Author: 62kgw
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 9:53 am
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did he run a poll on that beforehand?

Author: Trixter
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 11:57 am
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STAY OFF THE DRUGS!!!!


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