Even Democrats are getting nervous ab...

Feedback.pdxradio.com message board: Archives: Politics & other archives - 2009: 2009: Jan, Feb, March -- 2009: Even Democrats are getting nervous about Obama!
Author: Deane_johnson
Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 5:38 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

It had to happen and it will only get worse. Watch and see.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hzxMIm4EJQJddvV_ZHPkN1pw8nJwD9 6P7RC80

Author: Andrew2
Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 5:59 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

It's an opinion piece, Deane.

You'd have to be a fool not to be a tad nervous about the economy right now...

Author: Talpdx
Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 6:01 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

"It had to happen and it will only get worse."

That sounds very similar to what Warren Buffet has been saying. Expect 2009 to be one the worst year in decades. I'm sure Ronald Reagan was thinking the same thing about the bad economy during the early 80’s. For anyone to expect things to turn around 2 months into a new administration must by high on something, but certainly not common sense.

Author: Vitalogy
Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 1:06 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

Here's some polls that tell the story:

59% approve of Obama's job so far.
57% approve of how Obama is handling the economy.
28% approve of Limbaugh.

'Nuff said.

Author: Andy_brown
Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 1:51 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

Deane will continue to scour the net for articles about doubt and fear. It's the only way he knows. The politics of the right side conservative extremists never has changed. There has been no updating of 20th century Reaganism for the 21st century. The parameters of economic growth have changed. Not only that, but the period of Republican power '94 - '06 has exacerbated the negative effects of applying a thirty year old set of industrial values based in building wealth for the wealthy on to a nation of working class people. People like Deane keep pounding the mortgage crisis gavel because they want to throw attention away from the real reasons we are in an economic maelstrom worldwide. America made its economy work largely by being a nation of making products and producing services unparalleled in quality and reliability. The period of Republican power destroyed all this so as to gain incredible wealth and power. A revolt was inevitable and necessary. Now all the right wing heretics can do is whine and blubber. Their outdated theories have been proven wrong, and no matter how many articles Deane cuts and pastes in his moronic effort to sway opinion, it is he that is from the sleeping giant who destroyed itself through lack of work in governing, regulating, and legislating. Don't you see, people, Deane is the reason the economy has failed. Now in a minority, cornered like the rats they are, the right wing has finally been diminished to a fat guy in Florida with a golden microphone and guys like Deane whom are now diminished to playing the role of bad losers in a game where they will never make the playoffs again.

Author: Vitalogy
Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 2:13 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

Why Rush is Wrong: The party of Buckley and Reagan is now bereft and dominated by the politics of Limbaugh. A conservative's lament, written by lifelong conservative David Frum.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/188279

Author: Skeptical
Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 3:43 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

I saw that earlier and I decided that his comments should be hidden from Conservatives in order to ensure Obama gets re-elected in 2012.

Author: Brianl
Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 3:50 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

Vitalogy, Mr. Frum nailed it right on the head, one line sums up the current state of the Republican Party, and its shrinking numbers:

"Our party seems to be running to govern a country that no longer exists."

Evolve, or die. That is the choice the GOP has. The Democratic Party has become hip, chic, amongst the American youth, the intellectual folks, to go along with the Hollywood elite that has long been in the Democratic corner. The failure to evolve and change the message has produced disastrous results in elections on ALL levels, even in some traditionally conservative states, and it has given us the GOP rhetoric like what Gov. Jindal spewed on the GOP rebuttal of Obama's speech last week.

I was proud to consider myself a Republican when I turned 18 and registered to vote in 1990. I was proud to consider myself a Reagan Republican, and the GOP has left me behind. If they want my general support back (I have never been a straight-party guy in any fashion), they're going to have to EARN it.

Author: Stevethedj
Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 8:15 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

Well said Brian. I second your comments.

Author: Edust1958
Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 10:00 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

I think the only way the Grand Ol' Party can evolve and survive is to shift the focus of the party platform from bashing on the social issues and being in bed with the theocrats to paying attention to fiscal conservatism... that means not trying to "bring home the bacon" or "pay off political debt" with no-compete contracts to Haliburton.

I would vote Republican if there was a candidate that would develop a new "contract with America" that celebrated freedom rather than trying is impose one group's belief of what God wants on all of us. I talk to God regularly... in prayer... I believe I am humble enough to realize that He isn't going to talk to me directly.

If the GOP won't change, the party will die and some other party or parties will emerge to take its place... but that evolution will take time and the Democrats will be in power for that entire transition.

Author: Brianl
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 7:46 am
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

The fact that the GOP is still trying to shove social, moral issues down Americans' throats, when America is becoming so much more moderate on these same social issues, only drives that wedge in deeper.

As much as they refuse to believe it, the Broadways and Herbs are becoming less and less, IMHO even in their own party. It really seems to me that many "Republicans" are evolving socially from traditional conservative social stances, and the rank-and-file party leaders are shunning them, outcasting them, designating them the dreaded "RINO", instead of EMBRACING them and realizing that change is needed, and there to be had.

As a consequence, many moderates have left the GOP, even though they agree with many traditional Republican matters financially and fiscally, because the Republican leadership has made it clear that their more liberal social views are not welcome.

Author: Chris_taylor
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:57 am
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

Good points Brian. During the campaign I was reading more about how the sons and daughters of the GOP weren't necessarily holding the same firm line as mom or dad.

This was partly due to the fact they had friends and family members who had abortions are gay yet held a strong personal faith in God.

Even if that was not the case, these younger GOPs/conservatives were certainly putting those parts of the GOP agenda low on the top 10 list. And I think it was Obama's ability along with his message of change that resonated with these younger members.

Author: Edust1958
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 9:56 am
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

I was going to vote for McCain in the last election until he invited Gov. Palin to be his running mate. That choice swung the philosophy of that ticket too much to the right on social issues. Since I don't belong to any party I vote for what I consider the team that will provide the most effective government. This time in my opinion that was Obama. I do not regret that choice.

Author: Aok
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:58 am
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

Andrew2 wrote:
It's an opinion piece, Deane.

Well yes, but so is Rush Lindblah and look at Deane and his friends, they want to make HIM head of the Republican party. So, the righties take a lot of opinion as fact.

Author: Missing_kskd
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:19 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

It's opinion for a reason; namely, the facts don't support it.

Author: Deane_johnson
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 5:31 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

It's so easy to make morons out of you guys. Just post something not anointing Obama with adulation and you go bonkers. Very funny. You've got so much Kook Aid in you you're turning orange.

Author: Chris_taylor
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 5:40 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

Since selective hearing seems to abound within your GOP thinking, no one here as far as I have read has ever put any kind of "anointing" moniker on our current president. However YOU consistently do. Thus a closet Obama supporter you truly must be.

Author: Skeptical
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 5:52 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

Clearly there are a LOT of closet Obama supporters because after all, he did win in a landslide!

Author: Deane_johnson
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 5:56 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

I'm just waiting around for the reality bomb to drop. Make take a few months, but it's coming.

Author: Chickenjuggler
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 5:58 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

Because what will happen in a few months?

Specifically.

Author: Listenerpete
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 6:13 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

Deane_johnson>> "It's so easy to make morons out of you guys."

You are too busy making a moron of yourself, Deane. When the reality bomb drops you will realize that.

Author: Talpdx
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 6:42 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

"I'm just waiting around for the reality bomb to drop."

The reality bomb to drop? Do you mean the $50 trillion lost around the world last year? To how many more reality bombs are you referring?

Author: Amus
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:10 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

"I'm just waiting around for the reality bomb to drop."

With all due respect, reality isn't your strong suit.

Author: Trixter
Monday, March 09, 2009 - 9:53 pm
Top of pageBottom of page Link to this message

View profile or send e-mail Edit this post

I'm just waiting around for the reality bomb to drop. Make take a few months, but it's coming.

We waited for 8 years with DUHbya but your guys still haven't gotten that memo. WAKE THE F UP!


Topics Profile Last Day Last Week Search Tree View Log Out     Administration
Topics Profile Last Day Last Week Search Tree View Log Out   Administration
Welcome to Feedback.pdxradio.com message board
For assistance, read the instructions or contact us.
Powered by Discus Pro
http://www.discusware.com